Congrats — how interesting! Which year did you get it approved?smoulder wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:33 pmI was successful on my 4th attempt. I don't quite recall all the reasons I suspected rejection but on 2 occasions -
1. Applied too soon after marriage to a Malaysian Chinese PR (later converted to SC). Well before 2 years of marriage. Don't recall if that application was through the PTS scheme or FT.
2. My 3rd attempt, I was rejected just a few weeks before I quit my job. So we appealed via the local MP. Then I went on a short vacation before I started on my new job. Was rejected around that time.
My fear before I was finally approved was if I was earning "enough" to be approved given my race. (I'm Indian). And then there was the fear that if I was earning "enough" when I was "too old", would I ever be approved. Just to be clear I wasn't sure how much was "enough" or "too old".
That shouldn't be a fear at all. 3rd world applicants have abused this so many times (volunteering until receiving PR and never to be seen again at the NGO) that having that on your application now just indicates that you are trying to pad your application. It's not given any credit towards PR applications for probably 5 years or more. About the only thing in that genre that might would be a record of regular blood donations and even that isn't a given. When people abuse things the benefit of those things lose their value to those who follow.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:32 amHi folks!
I'm curious about what fears you have, regarding your PR application.
Personally, mine is not enough volunteering etc.
Happy New Year btw! Hopefully this is the approval year
That's an interesting angle!sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 8:38 pmThat shouldn't be a fear at all. 3rd world applicants have abused this so many times (volunteering until receiving PR and never to be seen again at the NGO) that having that on your application now just indicates that you are trying to pad your application. It's not given any credit towards PR applications for probably 5 years or more. About the only thing in that genre that might would be a record of regular blood donations and even that isn't a given. When people abuse things the benefit of those things lose their value to those who follow.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:32 amHi folks!
I'm curious about what fears you have, regarding your PR application.
Personally, mine is not enough volunteering etc.
Happy New Year btw! Hopefully this is the approval year
Yeah, let's see how it goes. I am leaning towards mentioning it.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 9:28 pmI wouldn't bother, but if you have been doing it for a considerable length of time, why stop if you are really the charitable sort. Otherwise, you just put paid to my statement. Just a poke, but I'm sure you see exactly what I'm saying. This is why ICA could really care less today (but having said that 10 years ago it was seen as a positive. Abused or bragging about something you "got away with" here in Singapore is a sure way to get the government to slam the door on it. Personally, I wouldn't bother. But like most, had I "invested" I probably would, but realizing that it probably will not help. I don't think it will hurt, it will be like a null statement of fact, and little else.
There are lot of charities and organizations who are in need of funds like the childrens society, heart foundation, etc. Why not donate to them rather than to NLB? I am a big fan of NLB, but I personally feel that NLB is financially OK. If you need to contribute, you can do volunteer service for them and donate the money to some needy charity? Just my thought and personal view.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 11:57 pmYeah, let's see how it goes. I am leaning towards mentioning it.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 9:28 pmI wouldn't bother, but if you have been doing it for a considerable length of time, why stop if you are really the charitable sort. Otherwise, you just put paid to my statement. Just a poke, but I'm sure you see exactly what I'm saying. This is why ICA could really care less today (but having said that 10 years ago it was seen as a positive. Abused or bragging about something you "got away with" here in Singapore is a sure way to get the government to slam the door on it. Personally, I wouldn't bother. But like most, had I "invested" I probably would, but realizing that it probably will not help. I don't think it will hurt, it will be like a null statement of fact, and little else.
Approved in Oct last year. I have no idea if anyone else has those same fears. I do know that there is definitely this fear among Indians that we are not considered very favorable.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 8:02 pmCongrats — how interesting! Which year did you get it approved?smoulder wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:33 pmI was successful on my 4th attempt. I don't quite recall all the reasons I suspected rejection but on 2 occasions -
1. Applied too soon after marriage to a Malaysian Chinese PR (later converted to SC). Well before 2 years of marriage. Don't recall if that application was through the PTS scheme or FT.
2. My 3rd attempt, I was rejected just a few weeks before I quit my job. So we appealed via the local MP. Then I went on a short vacation before I started on my new job. Was rejected around that time.
My fear before I was finally approved was if I was earning "enough" to be approved given my race. (I'm Indian). And then there was the fear that if I was earning "enough" when I was "too old", would I ever be approved. Just to be clear I wasn't sure how much was "enough" or "too old".
Do you often find friends restate the same fears today, that you had previously?
My wife is doing some volunteer work. She recently met another lady from the UK who is also volunteering with the sole intention of mentioning it in her PR application. Seems to be a thing.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 8:38 pmThat shouldn't be a fear at all. 3rd world applicants have abused this so many times (volunteering until receiving PR and never to be seen again at the NGO) that having that on your application now just indicates that you are trying to pad your application. It's not given any credit towards PR applications for probably 5 years or more. About the only thing in that genre that might would be a record of regular blood donations and even that isn't a given. When people abuse things the benefit of those things lose their value to those who follow.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:32 amHi folks!
I'm curious about what fears you have, regarding your PR application.
Personally, mine is not enough volunteering etc.
Happy New Year btw! Hopefully this is the approval year
Won't make any difference to the PR application, unless she has volunteered regularly for 3+ years.smoulder wrote: ↑Mon, 06 Jan 2020 12:47 amMy wife is doing some volunteer work. She recently met another lady from the UK who is also volunteering with the sole intention of mentioning it in her PR application. Seems to be a thing.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 8:38 pmThat shouldn't be a fear at all. 3rd world applicants have abused this so many times (volunteering until receiving PR and never to be seen again at the NGO) that having that on your application now just indicates that you are trying to pad your application. It's not given any credit towards PR applications for probably 5 years or more. About the only thing in that genre that might would be a record of regular blood donations and even that isn't a given. When people abuse things the benefit of those things lose their value to those who follow.alto_admin wrote: ↑Sun, 05 Jan 2020 4:32 amHi folks!
I'm curious about what fears you have, regarding your PR application.
Personally, mine is not enough volunteering etc.
Happy New Year btw! Hopefully this is the approval year
Yeah fair, I just happen to be really impressed with NLB and decided to contribute. Personally I felt I was getting a lot more value out of the place than I was giving back through my annual membership feesingaporeflyer wrote: ↑Mon, 06 Jan 2020 12:32 am
There are lot of charities and organizations who are in need of funds like the childrens society, heart foundation, etc. Why not donate to them rather than to NLB? I am a big fan of NLB, but I personally feel that NLB is financially OK. If you need to contribute, you can do volunteer service for them and donate the money to some needy charity? Just my thought and personal view.
Nice! Where do you discover opportunities to volunteer? giving.sg?singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Mon, 06 Jan 2020 12:32 am
FYI, I have volunteered for close to 7 years for NLB, roughly 40-60 hours per year.. But recently, moved to volunteer to some other organization that is more closer to my residence.
What seems to be their reason for concern? Quota?
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