One important factor to note is this 30-90 days are only for visit and not to work.malcontent wrote: ↑Mon, 10 Oct 2022 9:58 amI do question the ranking methodology used to measure passport power, which seems to only use one simple quantitative measure - # of countries accessible without a visa. It doesn’t look at the desirability of those countries or the length of stay each passport commands.
Singapore passport is ranked much higher than the US passport, but if you dig a little deeper, is it really more powerful?
Let’s take the Bahamas as an example, a US passport gets 8 months visa free stay on arrival, whereas Singapore only gets 3 months. You might argue, hey, that’s not fair — the Bahamas is right next door to the US.
Ok, let’s look at Singapore’s closest neighbor, Malaysia as an example. US passport gets 90 days and Singapore only gets 30 days. What? Yes, you read it right.
Still not convinced? Let’s take a country further away from both countries, Albania. Singapore passport gets 90 days… US passport gets, are you ready for this… 365 days.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not saying the US is a desirable passport to hold, it comes with a lot of tax and reporting nightmares, but if we are just looking at passport power alone, I’m just not convinced by the rankings.
In that case, if we look only at ease of access compared to other top tier passports, Singapore passport “draws its power” from places like China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Belarus and a few other less prominent countries like Gambia. North Korea used to be on the list until it was quietly removed (not too many years back).MOCHS wrote: ↑Mon, 10 Oct 2022 10:17 amThey rank by how convenient it is to enter the country without a visa which I feel is more important than how long one can stay in the country. Most Singaporeans use their passports to go on holiday and those who need to work overseas probably have the relevant visas applied by the company.
There are quite a few digital nomads and perpetual travelers who stay outside their home country for both to geo-arbitrage cost of living and to avoid taxes, it’s definitely a growing trend.
@misty ;Mad Scientist wrote: ↑Fri, 14 May 2021 5:19 pmI will throw my 2 cents based on my own personal account. I forbid anyone to do this if you are not ready for the pitfalls. My daughters were born in Singapore. We left for Australia when they were young. We did not renounce their SG citizenship when they turned 21. What we did is when we entered Singapore, we either use the Oz or European passports. Never once we use Singapore PP since the day we left Singapore. Now my daughters have their own family and both still hold SG, OZ and European passport. I only renounced my two sons SG citizenship as that is mandatory in order for them not to be drag by NS liabilities. This I did with utmost precision, hell, I am the one who put out the protocols in this forum, once I have tested it myself. I only did this after months of research.
I am not encouraging anyone to do this as this is my personal choice. We did what we did after discussing this as a family. No regrets nor any sentimental feelings attached. My daughters even applied their SG passports and got renewed years ago. There are no immediate ramification for SG females holding foreign passport once turn 21 except your SG passport will be canceled if caught and a fine of $1K from memory.
My boys and girls turned to be alright. Again , you must make the decision as a family. There are opportunities out there outside Singapore. You have to be brave and make those hard decision. Once you decide , thick or thin, stick to it. Don't come running back to Singapore coz, they will not give you any quarter.
Personally you can give birth in Singapore and do what we do.
Or give birth in OZ and apply for Singapore citizenship before she turn 1 .
DO NOT APPLY SG PASSPORT.
Use the OZ passport to stamp a Reentry Permit on the child passport. This you can easily do it here at ICA. She can then have a Singapore style education like any Singapore child. The only thing she does not have Singapore PP.
Once she has matured enough then take her through both pathways. Only then either apply Singapore PP which in turn she has to renounce OZ PP. Here is the good thing OZ constitution allows you to renounce your OZ citizenship and regain before the age of 27.
These guidelines has been there out in the open.
OK, I am not taking questions after this.
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