Citizenship by descent- Singaporean mother Australian born girl

[singaporeflyer]

I definitely have not made a decision or any action, which was what prompted me to come here in the first place.
But I would sincerely appreciate a more neutral tone rather than finger pointing that I have made so and so action, and claiming that I have did ____ action and gone against so and so by do ____ action.
At the end of the day, everyone is here to seek advice, not to be get thrown under the bus and accused of.

I didn't say anything negative or finger pointing. The only thing I said was when you removed your earlier messages. For your question, no finger pointing was done. I even said that you can get 90 days every visit even with an AU passport.

[malcontent]

I definitely have not made a decision or any action, which was what prompted me to come here in the first place.
But I would sincerely appreciate a more neutral tone rather than finger pointing that I have made so and so action, and claiming that I have did ____ action and gone against so and so by do ____ action.
At the end of the day, everyone is here to seek advice, not to be get thrown under the bus and accused of.

The wise will graciously take criticism and learn from it. And believe me, there is much learning to be had on this forum. Expats are outsiders, and those who have been around long enough know full well the strings that are attached to PR/SC. Locals are insiders and often totally unaware of what it’s like to be an outsider. You have to tread with care and get to know all of the risks and consequences. I can’t think of a better place to learn about this than on this forum.

[smoulder]

Jesus Christ, I thought this was a safe place to ask questions and there are people here just trying to bring others down. These are all questions asked before any actions were taken, the "cake eating" you claim. That didn't cross my mind, but yes you are right. Absolutely right, I forgot SC had that privilege, I mentioned I have not been in SG for the last decade.

If people here can be more chill and not try to bring people down and claim so and so, that will be amazing. Nothing illegal has been done, it was all just a comment to seek advice. It seems like there are a large number of people doing this on the forum that's why I'm asking. Given the strong negative response and "advice", wouldn't go down the illegal route.

But can people just calm down and not try to be the national police and try to paint others in a negative light.

Just to be a bit blunt. There are other people who will read these posts and who might benefit from the answers that subterfuge is a bad idea.

[therat]

you as Singaporean. You know you cannot have 2 citizenship.
But you still want to explore on this option.

Dont you think it is illegal?

You just want to legalize your action

[smoulder]

you as Singaporean. You know you cannot have 2 citizenship.
But you still want to explore on this option.

Dont you think it is illegal?

You just want to legalize your action

Hoping to find the loophole, it seems.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Wonder which pronouns it uses?

[sundaymorningstaple]

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Lol, I had quoted your message and you can't remove that !

@SMS, can you help to restore all misty_soul's deleted/emptied posts?

Done. Now I don't know which post you were quoting as she deleted more than one, but you can copy/past the requisite one now.

[MOCHS]

Mad Scientist’s post does seem to imply that one can have dual-SC citizenship with another country as long as one flies under the radar? Perhaps that’s why misty_soul was under the mistaken impression that it can still be done nowadays but in fact, what MS did was years ago when loopholes were not plugged yet… and doing such an attempt in recent times will land the SC in hot water.

Am I right, mods? I understand MS has been on this forum for a long time and was an expert on this, based on his post history.

[therat]

Mad Scientist’s post does seem to imply that one can have dual-SC citizenship with another country as long as one flies under the radar? Perhaps that’s why misty_soul was under the mistaken impression that it can still be done nowadays but in fact, what MS did was years ago when loopholes were not plugged yet… and doing such an attempt in recent times will land the SC in hot water.

Am I right, mods? I understand MS has been on this forum for a long time and was an expert on this, based on his post history.

MS also mentioned " I forbid anyone to do this if you are not ready for the pitfalls."

Further more, he did that when his girls is still young. below 21.
misty_soul is mid 20s.

[sundaymorningstaple]

He came aboard when I was heavy into this stuff due to my own situation. Between the two of us we became something of a beacon, but his depth of expertise was without compare due to his experience both within the Military, as well as within the civil service and a business man. He's was marked by the authorities and was asked to lim kopi at one point on a trip to Singapore. He has to watch his toes but is the recognized, at least by us, as the font of knowledge on all things SG regarding nationalities/changing/NS issues as he's done it all. My knowledge while decent is only secondary (via research) to the man who has done it all and speaks from both inside knowledge and external experience. My hat has always been off to the man for giving us his treasure trove of knowledge on the subjects.

@therat, Spot on. MS usually puts the necessary codicils in where necessary. Protects both him and us.

[MOCHS]

MS also mentioned " I forbid anyone to do this if you are not ready for the pitfalls."

Yup, was going to add that into my post but you replied before I could do so.

I have to admit, I even missed MS’s "I forbid anyone to do this if you are not ready for the pitfalls” on the first reading. Sometimes we only catch what stands out to us instead of taking in the entire post which can cause people to prematurely jump the gun.

[midlet2013]

If the OP thought it’s a reasonable question, he/she should have asked ICA instead of an anonymous forum. Sadly it was a terrible question to begin with.

Even though I am impressed at your desire to give the best options to ur kid, I hope he/she turns out to be meritorious so can migrate on merit. And you don’t have to resort to such tricks.

[Mad Scientist]

@misty soul

Hear , hear, I heard you.
Will come back to you soon

[nakatago]

I get why one would want to retain the right to live in two countries but why some people go through so much trouble doing so when one country explicitly disallows it--moreso when said country is known for surveillance. Is it really worth it for a more powerful passport? Don't answer that--it's rhetorical.

[malcontent]

I do question the ranking methodology used to measure passport power, which seems to only use one simple quantitative measure - # of countries accessible without a visa. It doesn’t look at the desirability of those countries or the length of stay each passport commands.

Singapore passport is ranked much higher than the US passport, but if you dig a little deeper, is it really more powerful?

Let’s take the Bahamas as an example, a US passport gets 8 months visa free stay on arrival, whereas Singapore only gets 3 months. You might argue, hey, that’s not fair — the Bahamas is right next door to the US.

Ok, let’s look at Singapore’s closest neighbor, Malaysia as an example. US passport gets 90 days and Singapore only gets 30 days. What? Yes, you read it right.

Still not convinced? Let’s take a country further away from both countries, Albania. Singapore passport gets 90 days… US passport gets, are you ready for this… 365 days.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not saying the US is a desirable passport to hold, it comes with a lot of tax and reporting nightmares, but if we are just looking at passport power alone, I’m just not convinced by the rankings.