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Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 1:02 am
by Eurasian2019
Currently waiting on my application for SC, but I'm here just to ask a question about rather ICA keep records of a person's previous attempts of applying for PR/SC? So let's say, one guy applies for PR and he has applied once in the past (and it was rejected.) Would ICA still see that he has applied for PR and have access to his previous PR application? Just a general inquiry, thanks.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 2:10 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
Yes. In fact, this is also why if you work here, finish your contract, go home for 5 years and come back here on another contract you will have exactly the same FIN number. No matter how many times you apply a copy of it will be kept on record. Your FIN number is a unique identifier just like your fingerprint is. The only time the FIN number will change is when(if) you become a Permanent Resident when you will then be issued a NRIC. That NRIC number will never change (the colour will, however if you gain citizenship at which time it is exchanged for a pink NRIC. All your records, submissions, rejections (and reasons for same but you will never see those) are kept.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 2:58 pm
by Eurasian2019
Oh...I didn't know that actually. I mean I know the FIN doesn't change when you renew your ltvp, but I didn't know that it's actually permanent. Thanks for the insight! I feel more comfortable with know they keeping past records

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 3:04 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
The FIN is permanent until it is exchanged for the NRIC (either blue or pink). Now whether or not they keep/transfer the FIN records to the new NRIC number I do not know. I do know that all applications upon gaining PR are kept (e.g., applications for SGC, etc.)

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 3:07 pm
by Eurasian2019
Oh no no, that's what i meant, until you gain your NRIC. But even when you have your FIN number and you apply for PR, they still keep tabs on your previous applications for PR right? Sorry if i'm just repeating myself, I just want to get things straight

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 5:25 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
reread my last post.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 5:28 pm
by PNGMK
You won't escape your past.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:25 pm
by Strong Eagle
I have anecdotal evidence that tells me all the records pertaining to my EntrePass and EP were still available under my NRIC when I got PR. My business plan, my company formation, all available under NRIC. Makes sense. Governments rarely let records be destroyed for any reason, unless forced to do so.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:44 pm
by singaporeflyer
Eurasian2019 wrote:
Wed, 16 Oct 2019 3:07 pm
Oh no no, that's what i meant, until you gain your NRIC. But even when you have your FIN number and you apply for PR, they still keep tabs on your previous applications for PR right? Sorry if i'm just repeating myself, I just want to get things straight
There must surely be a reason why you are asking the same question again and again. Are you worried about something?

Even before your EP, if you have visited SG on Social Visit Pass, they will have records to link that to you, your EP and also to your PR. So, they dont forget anything.

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:25 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
Yep. How do you think they catch those who do too many "visa runs".

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:26 pm
by Eurasian2019
singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:44 pm
Eurasian2019 wrote:
Wed, 16 Oct 2019 3:07 pm
Oh no no, that's what i meant, until you gain your NRIC. But even when you have your FIN number and you apply for PR, they still keep tabs on your previous applications for PR right? Sorry if i'm just repeating myself, I just want to get things straight
There must surely be a reason why you are asking the same question again and again. Are you worried about something?

Even before your EP, if you have visited SG on Social Visit Pass, they will have records to link that to you, your EP and also to your PR. So, they dont forget anything.
Heyy, oh no I wasn't worried about anything, sorry if I came across that way (well I have been waiting for citizenship but I guess waiting is something to be expected.) I just wanted to understand it fully, that's all. Thanks for your concern and for your time!

Re: Does ICA keep records of past PR/SC applications?

Posted: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:28 pm
by Eurasian2019
Strong Eagle wrote:
Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:25 pm
I have anecdotal evidence that tells me all the records pertaining to my EntrePass and EP were still available under my NRIC when I got PR. My business plan, my company formation, all available under NRIC. Makes sense. Governments rarely let records be destroyed for any reason, unless forced to do so.
Yup, seems about right. Know a guy who has that under his profile too (don't know his situation fully though, obviously.) And yeah, governments would not destroy any of that stuff. It's practical to keep records.