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PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by preethipaul » Tue, 03 Sep 2019 11:24 am

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 03 Sep 2019 2:14 pm

Industry? Salary range? Applying for full family? (If not, forget it). Spouse working?

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by preethipaul » Tue, 03 Sep 2019 2:27 pm

Industry - Shipping Lines/NVOCC
Salary above 6k
family of 4 - applied
Spouse working.
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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 03 Sep 2019 2:40 pm

I'd say you might have a fair chance this time. Say 70% maybe? You waited a fair time between applications and doubled your family size during the same period. As you are applying for the whole family, I could see it happening, but then I'm not ICA. Just keep the faith as it could take 18 months (if you have read enough threads on this board, you will know it's not uncommon to take that long. Good Luck.

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 03 Sep 2019 4:31 pm

preethipaul wrote:
Tue, 03 Sep 2019 2:27 pm
Industry - Shipping Lines/NVOCC
Salary above 6k
family of 4 - applied
Spouse working.
Where are you both originally from? What is the family total income?

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by PRSeeker_Ind » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:03 pm

Almost similar waiting time for me... Applied in Jan and still waiting..

Twice rejected earlier in 2016 and 2017... in SG for 6+ years..

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by preethipaul » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:16 pm

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by preethipaul » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:20 pm

we are from india. reason for asking total income? there are many cases where salary is not a criteria bro.
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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:33 pm

preethipaul wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:16 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 03 Sep 2019 4:31 pm
preethipaul wrote:
Tue, 03 Sep 2019 2:27 pm
Industry - Shipping Lines/NVOCC
Salary above 6k
family of 4 - applied
Spouse working.
Where are you both originally from? What is the family total income?
we are from india. reason for asking total income? there are many cases where salary is not a criteria bro.
Are you sure salary is not a criteria? Who said so?

The reason I asked is ICA will see if the total salary is OK in THEIR Calculation to support a family of 4. No other reason.

If you are from the subcontinent, Salary WILL SURELY be ONE Of the Criteria. A simple search on google will show that economic contributions to Singapore will also be a factor if you are applying via the PTS Scheme.

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by preethipaul » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 4:20 pm

As i said its by case by case only. When a person/family applies for PR , normally our Employment Pass holds a key role in getting PR eg., salary which is already met as per guidelines by MOM for E-Pass and to qualify DP it should be higher pay for main applicant. hence after min work /stay we are entitled to apply PR which we already met as per ICA guidelines regardless of 1 , 2 kids or higher.

PR means supporting economically as well too from my point of view. Many Profiles has High Pay still why they are being rejected? tell
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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 5:23 pm

preethipaul wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 4:20 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:33 pm
preethipaul wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:16 pm

we are from india. reason for asking total income? there are many cases where salary is not a criteria bro.
Are you sure salary is not a criteria? Who said so?

The reason I asked is ICA will see if the total salary is OK in THEIR Calculation to support a family of 4. No other reason.

If you are from the subcontinent, Salary WILL SURELY be ONE Of the Criteria. A simple search on google will show that economic contributions to Singapore will also be a factor if you are applying via the PTS Scheme.
As i said its by case by case only. When a person/family applies for PR , normally our Employment Pass holds a key role in getting PR eg., salary which is already met as per guidelines by MOM for E-Pass and to qualify DP it should be higher pay for main applicant. hence after min work /stay we are entitled to apply PR which we already met as per ICA guidelines regardless of 1 , 2 kids or higher.

PR means supporting economically as well too from my point of view. Many Profiles has High Pay still why they are being rejected? tell
I dont know who gave you the information that Employment pass is the KEY to get PR.If so, there would be many number of PR's in Singapore by now.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/documents-and-pu ... ce-numbers

Employment Pass issued every year is 150-180K. PR issued every year is 20-30K.

Do you know that many many of them who are eligible for E Pass and also DP are unable to get PR despite both having decent salary of 6K each? Are you aware? You are just new here and fail to accept the reality

You can't post in a forum and expect the people who are here for the last 9-10 years to say ONLY what you like or want us to say.

Ask some old time posters to check with them if what I said is valid or not.

Anyway good luck.

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

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Re: PR Application - Pending for 7 month 7 days

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 04 Sep 2019 7:11 pm

preethipaul wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 4:20 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:33 pm
preethipaul wrote:
Wed, 04 Sep 2019 2:16 pm

we are from india. reason for asking total income? there are many cases where salary is not a criteria bro.
Are you sure salary is not a criteria? Who said so?

The reason I asked is ICA will see if the total salary is OK in THEIR Calculation to support a family of 4. No other reason.

If you are from the subcontinent, Salary WILL SURELY be ONE Of the Criteria. A simple search on google will show that economic contributions to Singapore will also be a factor if you are applying via the PTS Scheme.
As i said its by case by case only. When a person/family applies for PR , normally our Employment Pass holds a key role in getting PR eg., salary which is already met as per guidelines by MOM for E-Pass and to qualify DP it should be higher pay for main applicant. hence after min work /stay we are entitled to apply PR which we already met as per ICA guidelines regardless of 1 , 2 kids or higher.

PR means supporting economically as well too from my point of view. Many Profiles has High Pay still why they are being rejected? tell
I hate to disappoint you, but your EP only holds a key role in determining if you are able to apply for (not necessarily obtain/be granted) PR. You are aware that there is also the Family Ties Scheme to get PR as well, aren't you?

So having a salary of 6K or 10K a month while having a minor role to play, there are other things that are also important, e.g., minimum education (you don't need a Masters to get PR) required, Industry where you earn your income, position within that industry. Family size and makeup are also important as it Race (from a Singapore demographic point of view - They have a percentage of race demographic that they are happy with and the numbers available annually are limited by percentage of the demographics or demographic levels that they want to obtain.

Good example, if I may...... IF you hold a C level position in the Financial Industry here, you will be earning possibly far in excess of $250K/year which is over 24K/mo. You will note that there have been a number of posters here (had you done any research of our archives) earning over that amount and have been rejected for PR several times. We think the thought processes for that is these people are not good material for 'Permanent' Residents as they will likely move on at the first carrot of an extra 30~50K per annum. Therefore these people are not good candidates to make eventual citizens or even PR as there are limited numbers available as can be seen by the stats presented by SF earlier (these are accurate).

By the same token, if you salary is too low compared to others in your same scenario and experience/academic level also, not likely to give PR as you don't seem to be of a high enough calibre compared to your peers. While a family is desirable, you need to have a family income that is sufficient to support the numbers in the family. Also, they will do background check of all in the family application to see if there is the potential of inheriting excess baggage which if you income is not all that high, will ultimately lead to a drain of Singapore's finite resources. On the other hand if applying for only a portion of the immediate family, this 'could' indicate and family with a problem, or something else that is not quite right. There are NO HARD AND FAST RULES WITH ICA and you cannot second guess them.

We collect all this anecdotal stories and try to see a trend and occasionally it is pretty obvious but often it's only a gut feeling. You can take our advice or not. At the end of the day, we are NOT ICA and don't claim to have an inside track. However we will tell you exactly the way we see it with all the years of experience here that we have accumulated. We don't blow smoke to make people 'feel good', but give our honest assessment of what we see/hear. We all do not think alike but we all are trying to be straight shooters and giving our honest assessments based on what we know/surmise.

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