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Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 4:49 pm

I went through various threads on this but was not able to find a similar situation and hence the post

I am working for a large company here on deputation on EP. I have finished my project and I am being asked to go to my home country. This will require the company to cancel my EP.

I also happen to have an offer from another firm, and in process of filing new EP for the same. This will take some time (at least 2 weeks) and I am not sure if my company will let me stay here until the new EP comes.

My question is that If my company cancels my EP and sends me back to base country, does it impact my processing of new EP that is against the new offer? Will i need a new offer just because I will not be in Singapore any more?

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 4:51 pm

require help on this urgently pls

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by bro75 » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 5:02 pm

You have 30 days to stay in Singapore after the cancellation of EP. MOM(or ICA?) will issue a 30 day short term visa for ex-EP holders to take care of things before leaving the country. You can use that time to wait for the new EP. You must leave Singapore shortly before the short term visit pass expires if you do not have a new EP at that time.

In my experience, leaving Singapore during EP processing should have no impact on the result.

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 5:11 pm

but my company will not provide me 30 days or even 20 days to leave - between the time my current EP is cancelled and I get a new IPA (hopefully!) I might already be out of Singapore. And that is my major concern because I have accepted the offer in Singapore and now when the new EP is being processed I may be out of SG ( EP form has a section that asks if the Foreign Employee is currently in Singapore)

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by bro75 » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 5:21 pm

In case you are out of Singapore when the IPA is issued, you can print the IPA and show it to Singapore immigration when you come back to Singapore.
I am not familiar about the EP form so I cannot help you there. My advice is to be truthful when signing forms.

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 5:31 pm

Thank you for your advice @bro75.

I agree with you advice. And I am being truthful. I am in Singapore now and have accepted the offer and stated that currently I am in Singapore working for XYZ company.

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 8:28 pm

qna_ep wrote:
Fri, 12 Jul 2019 5:11 pm
but my company will not provide me 30 days or even 20 days to leave - between the time my current EP is cancelled and I get a new IPA (hopefully!) I might already be out of Singapore. And that is my major concern because I have accepted the offer in Singapore and now when the new EP is being processed I may be out of SG ( EP form has a section that asks if the Foreign Employee is currently in Singapore)
Your current employer has nothing to do with the SVP, other than the downloading of the embarkation card. That is given by the MOM when the EP is cancelled. The day it's cancelled the employer retains your EP card and they have to give you an embarkation card with will expire in 30 days. If they don't print it out and give to you, retain the EP card and go to MOM and tell them what has transpired. For your own safety, because something sounds fishy, take a photo of both sides of your EP just in case the employer takes it and then doesn't give you the embarkation card. Then go straight to MOM. They will sort it out.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 12 Jul 2019 8:31 pm

Quick question. Are you on an Employment Pass or a Work Permit?
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:34 pm

I am on an EP @sundaymorningstaple

My concern is regarding whether MOM will treat my case to file a new EP( from the new offer) any differently if my current EP is cancelled before I get the new IPA ?

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by x9200 » Sun, 14 Jul 2019 9:22 am

qna_ep wrote:
Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:34 pm
I am on an EP @sundaymorningstaple

My concern is regarding whether MOM will treat my case to file a new EP( from the new offer) any differently if my current EP is cancelled before I get the new IPA ?
Why it should be any different? What's going on with you (leaving aside any potential turbulence with your current employer) is what normally happens to people switching jobs. They have their EP canceled, they have to leave country or stay on SVP, they have the new EP approved within 30 days or not.

Your main concern should be rather how long is it going to take to have your new EP approved (if approved at all). We've seen many cases of people waiting well over 3 months to have the new EP approved. This is not because of expiring/cancelling of current EP but much higher scrutiny the SG gov goes right now through your submitted documents. But if what you submitted is genuine and the new position has no obvious SC/PR candidates, and you fit the position well (education, experience, offered salary), then there is a good chance you will get the EP and whether you stay in the country or not is hardly relevant.

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Re: Moving jobs on EP

Post by qna_ep » Sun, 14 Jul 2019 2:21 pm

Thank you so much for all advice and help to everyone who responded on this

I was told that it is easier to get new IPA issues if you are in SG (while moving jobs) in comparison to the scenario where you current EP is cancelled and new IPA is under processing (of course if it is approved at all is a concern in itself)

Your responses have helped me clear my head

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