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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:18 am

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Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:11 am
My spouse is a Korean and been on Ltvp for 2 years. He is 33 and have master degree from Kr university. I am a SC and curious if his chances of getting a Pr will be successful?

We have no kids and he doesn’t have any job so far in SG during these 2 years. Only myself is working. What do you guys think?
He have been pestering me to apply for him even though I feel the chances are very slim... look forward to hear all your thoughts as I do not want to waste time applying knowing that it will get rejected but he is adamant about applying for it ...also currently he isn’t in SG but wants me to apply asap
Chance is going to be slim
1. He is not in SG and also not working

My personal is to after he moves to SG. He can move to SG and try to work on LTVP+ ?

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by pprab » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:29 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:18 am
pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:11 am
My spouse is a Korean and been on Ltvp for 2 years. He is 33 and have master degree from Kr university. I am a SC and curious if his chances of getting a Pr will be successful?

We have no kids and he doesn’t have any job so far in SG during these 2 years. Only myself is working. What do you guys think?
He have been pestering me to apply for him even though I feel the chances are very slim... look forward to hear all your thoughts as I do not want to waste time applying knowing that it will get rejected but he is adamant about applying for it ...also currently he isn’t in SG but wants me to apply asap
Chance is going to be slim
1. He is not in SG and also not working

My personal is to after he moves to SG. He can move to SG and try to work on LTVP+ ?
He already is on LTVP, recently in May we just renewed for another year till 2021.
know as a SC, it isnt easy to get PR so easily and also I honestly dont see in the long run that he will lay his roots here in SG. He wants PR because he feels PR gets benefit (which I beg to differ) lols, since the only difference is PR will have to contribute CPF if they work here or maybe easier to find a job here. Correct me if I'm wrong, I totally have no experience in applying PR..

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:36 am

pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:29 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:18 am
pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:11 am
My spouse is a Korean and been on Ltvp for 2 years. He is 33 and have master degree from Kr university. I am a SC and curious if his chances of getting a Pr will be successful?

We have no kids and he doesn’t have any job so far in SG during these 2 years. Only myself is working. What do you guys think?
He have been pestering me to apply for him even though I feel the chances are very slim... look forward to hear all your thoughts as I do not want to waste time applying knowing that it will get rejected but he is adamant about applying for it ...also currently he isn’t in SG but wants me to apply asap
Chance is going to be slim
1. He is not in SG and also not working

My personal is to after he moves to SG. He can move to SG and try to work on LTVP+ ?
He already is on LTVP, recently in May we just renewed for another year till 2021.
know as a SC, it isnt easy to get PR so easily and also I honestly dont see in the long run that he will lay his roots here in SG. He wants PR because he feels PR gets benefit (which I beg to differ) lols, since the only difference is PR will have to contribute CPF if they work here or maybe easier to find a job here. Correct me if I'm wrong, I totally have no experience in applying PR..
If he stays in SG and works in SG, then chance of him getting PR is good as he is married to a SC. If he is not going to be based here for long, then there is no use of getting PR.

I mean why does he not want to work in SG on LTVP first?

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by pprab » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:48 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:36 am
pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:29 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:18 am


Chance is going to be slim
1. He is not in SG and also not working

My personal is to after he moves to SG. He can move to SG and try to work on LTVP+ ?
He already is on LTVP, recently in May we just renewed for another year till 2021.
know as a SC, it isnt easy to get PR so easily and also I honestly dont see in the long run that he will lay his roots here in SG. He wants PR because he feels PR gets benefit (which I beg to differ) lols, since the only difference is PR will have to contribute CPF if they work here or maybe easier to find a job here. Correct me if I'm wrong, I totally have no experience in applying PR..
If he stays in SG and works in SG, then chance of him getting PR is good as he is married to a SC. If he is not going to be based here for long, then there is no use of getting PR.

I mean why does he not want to work in SG on LTVP first?
My exact thoughts above..in the 1st year that I applied LTVP for him, I got him a Letter of Consent from MOM to enable him to work but he was choosy on job applications etc. And now that he isnt here (he is back in kr) he is bugging me constantly to apply for PR, tbh- we had a few quarrels regarding this and its driving me mad. He might think its very simple to just apply, which is sure but I do not see the 'hurry need' now to apply PR for him. Previously a company that wanted to employ him kept asking if he have PR, which I find it odd since he have the LOC from MOM already.. since the renewal of LTVP this year, his LOC have already expired. If he stays here and have a job here, sure perhaps the chances are slightly higher (although I feel it isnt so) many high flyer folks here have worked for many years and married to SC still doesnt get PR

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:58 am

pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:48 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:36 am
pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 9:29 am


He already is on LTVP, recently in May we just renewed for another year till 2021.
know as a SC, it isnt easy to get PR so easily and also I honestly dont see in the long run that he will lay his roots here in SG. He wants PR because he feels PR gets benefit (which I beg to differ) lols, since the only difference is PR will have to contribute CPF if they work here or maybe easier to find a job here. Correct me if I'm wrong, I totally have no experience in applying PR..
If he stays in SG and works in SG, then chance of him getting PR is good as he is married to a SC. If he is not going to be based here for long, then there is no use of getting PR.

I mean why does he not want to work in SG on LTVP first?
My exact thoughts above..in the 1st year that I applied LTVP for him, I got him a Letter of Consent from MOM to enable him to work but he was choosy on job applications etc. And now that he isnt here (he is back in kr) he is bugging me constantly to apply for PR, tbh- we had a few quarrels regarding this and its driving me mad. He might think its very simple to just apply, which is sure but I do not see the 'hurry need' now to apply PR for him. Previously a company that wanted to employ him kept asking if he have PR, which I find it odd since he have the LOC from MOM already.. since the renewal of LTVP this year, his LOC have already expired. If he stays here and have a job here, sure perhaps the chances are slightly higher (although I feel it isnt so) many high flyer folks here have worked for many years and married to SC still doesnt get PR
even though LOC is not same as PR, i think LOC must be enough for him to get into a job here in SG. After he works in SG for 2 years, then you can sponsor his PR. Else, with him not being in SG and also not a job, the chance for his PR is very slim.

But getting PR via the sponsorship route married to a SC is easier than the PTS Scheme, provided he really stays and works in SG for long (atleast 2 years) and also if the sponsor can prove that his/her salary is financially able to support him.

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by pprab » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:27 am

yes thats right, on the part that he should at least work here for few years 1st.. he is quite ambitious now that he wants a PR without being here and also unemployed..I have been supporting him since the day he came SG ...

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:09 am

pprab wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:27 am
yes thats right, on the part that he should at least work here for few years 1st.. he is quite ambitious now that he wants a PR without being here and also unemployed..I have been supporting him since the day he came SG ...
It is not about that. what I mean is ICA will ask for some financial proof like salary slips, cpf history and tax slips to prove that you are earning enough to support him as you are the sponsor for his PR application. just FYI

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 4:09 pm

He's only going to come here if he get PR. Frankly I think his chances are virtually nil to get PR while still in Korea. If you have been married for over two years, I'm pretty certain that ICA will think that you are have been conned into a marriage of convenience. I don't like having to say it, but it really sounds like you are being used. You are already supporting him but not really married except on paper.

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by pprab » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 4:19 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 4:09 pm
He's only going to come here if he get PR. Frankly I think his chances are virtually nil to get PR while still in Korea. If you have been married for over two years, I'm pretty certain that ICA will think that you are have been conned into a marriage of convenience. I don't like having to say it, but it really sounds like you are being used. You are already supporting him but not really married except on paper.
Married only since 2016 in KR. I just dont see the need that we should apply for PR so soon given that he doesnt know his return date back to SG and also with this current situation, applying a PR now isnt the priority..at least if he have already a job here, sure I can see why he wants a PR perhaps, even the recent solidarity package, PR doesnt get any cent from Govt.

I feel so too, that its only on paper. I just can't convince myself to spend time filling up that PR form for a valid reason to be honest knowing that its futile.

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Jun 2020 4:47 pm

After reading the whole thread before my last post, I felt it needed to be said. Four years is a lot of time to be married without being in a marriage. When one partner will not treat it as a marriage unless they get their way has to give one pause to reflect. Especially if the other spouse is just being treated like a bank. How long was he physically in Singapore? When did he return to Korea?

Oh, actually PRs finally got a token amount of $300 which wasn't dispersed until June 6 or 7th. I know. I'm a very LONG term PR (quarter of a century). I was actually surprised seeing the $300 cheque. Almost all of our previous subsidies have been chopped to pieces and only crumbs left. Don't GST vouchers either.

Think very carefully how you proceed. You are in a bit of a pickle and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. ;-)

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by S_KH2091 » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 3:14 pm

Hi Guys,

I Applied my SPR(Singapore Permanent Application) in Dec '19. I just received the outcome last week (18th June 2020). My application was rejected but there was no direct stated reason for the rejection.

In the official letter reply :
" Thank you for your interest in Singapore Permanent Residence (PR). All SPR applications are assessed holistically under the prevailing criteria, including economic contribution, education qualifications and integration with Singapore society among other things.
We have considered your application, including supporting documents. We regret to inform you that your application is not successful.
Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass."

Profile:
Im an Indian staying in Singapore for 7+ years now.

I did my Masters in Business Administration (Majors Managerial Accounting) here in 2013-2014. And eventually started working after my course.

Graduated in 2014 Feb.
Work Experience: 6 years in Singapore
Profile: Trading Manager - Trader and handling trade/physical gold operations in a Gold company. It is an old local company (30 Years) where i have worked since Apr 2014 - until now.
I have EP pass since Apr 2014 and currently my basic pay is SGD 5300.

I have Socially contributed to the Singapore society by volunteering in an organisation providing food to Old age homes & nursing home. Basically volunteered in a soup kitchen.

I have also done a short term course from SMU academy in 2018 for my growth in the field where i am working.

Im disappointed to know the outcome of my PR application. Do you think i should reapply again after 6 months or wait for an year?

Im really clueless at the moment, what can i do to increase the probability/chances to get my application approved.

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by bro75 » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:16 pm

There are limited PR slots every year and there are many applicants from the India so the chances of approval will be low. But to win the lottery, you must buy your ticket so keep applying if the fee is not burdensome to you. You will also need to keep upgrading your profile to increase your chances.

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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:49 pm

S_KH2091 wrote:
Thu, 25 Jun 2020 3:14 pm
Hi Guys,

I Applied my SPR(Singapore Permanent Application) in Dec '19. I just received the outcome last week (18th June 2020). My application was rejected but there was no direct stated reason for the rejection.

In the official letter reply :
" Thank you for your interest in Singapore Permanent Residence (PR). All SPR applications are assessed holistically under the prevailing criteria, including economic contribution, education qualifications and integration with Singapore society among other things.
We have considered your application, including supporting documents. We regret to inform you that your application is not successful.
Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass."

Profile:
Im an Indian staying in Singapore for 7+ years now.

I did my Masters in Business Administration (Majors Managerial Accounting) here in 2013-2014. And eventually started working after my course.

Graduated in 2014 Feb.
Work Experience: 6 years in Singapore
Profile: Trading Manager - Trader and handling trade/physical gold operations in a Gold company. It is an old local company (30 Years) where i have worked since Apr 2014 - until now.
I have EP pass since Apr 2014 and currently my basic pay is SGD 5300.

I have Socially contributed to the Singapore society by volunteering in an organisation providing food to Old age homes & nursing home. Basically volunteered in a soup kitchen.

I have also done a short term course from SMU academy in 2018 for my growth in the field where i am working.

Im disappointed to know the outcome of my PR application. Do you think i should reapply again after 6 months or wait for an year?

Im really clueless at the moment, what can i do to increase the probability/chances to get my application approved.
Things are not going to be easy unless your salary increases exponentially. Also where did you get your MBA from? Local university?

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Re: PR approval in 2019

Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:56 pm

S_KH2091 wrote:Hi Guys,

I Applied my SPR(Singapore Permanent Application) in Dec '19. I just received the outcome last week (18th June 2020). My application was rejected but there was no direct stated reason for the rejection.

In the official letter reply :
" Thank you for your interest in Singapore Permanent Residence (PR). All SPR applications are assessed holistically under the prevailing criteria, including economic contribution, education qualifications and integration with Singapore society among other things.
We have considered your application, including supporting documents. We regret to inform you that your application is not successful.
Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass."

Profile:
Im an Indian staying in Singapore for 7+ years now.

I did my Masters in Business Administration (Majors Managerial Accounting) here in 2013-2014. And eventually started working after my course.

Graduated in 2014 Feb.
Work Experience: 6 years in Singapore
Profile: Trading Manager - Trader and handling trade/physical gold operations in a Gold company. It is an old local company (30 Years) where i have worked since Apr 2014 - until now.
I have EP pass since Apr 2014 and currently my basic pay is SGD 5300.

I have Socially contributed to the Singapore society by volunteering in an organisation providing food to Old age homes & nursing home. Basically volunteered in a soup kitchen.

I have also done a short term course from SMU academy in 2018 for my growth in the field where i am working.

Im disappointed to know the outcome of my PR application. Do you think i should reapply again after 6 months or wait for an year?

Im really clueless at the moment, what can i do to increase the probability/chances to get my application approved.
Your volunteering work or donation does not carry any weight in getting you PR.

Your nationality and race are not in your favour. Also, your income is on the low side. Not sure how much the Masters you obtained in SG will help.

The reality is even if you re-apply after one year, you are likely to get a rejection, but this time will be after a longer wait as there are backlogs of applications, many of those are from your compatriots. The government is likely to tighten the PR numbers given the economic and job market outlook.

I wish you good luck, you’ll definitely need it.


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Re: PR approval in 2020

Post by S_KH2091 » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 5:30 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:49 pm
S_KH2091 wrote:
Thu, 25 Jun 2020 3:14 pm
Hi Guys,

I Applied my SPR(Singapore Permanent Application) in Dec '19. I just received the outcome last week (18th June 2020). My application was rejected but there was no direct stated reason for the rejection.

In the official letter reply :
" Thank you for your interest in Singapore Permanent Residence (PR). All SPR applications are assessed holistically under the prevailing criteria, including economic contribution, education qualifications and integration with Singapore society among other things.
We have considered your application, including supporting documents. We regret to inform you that your application is not successful.
Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass."

Profile:
Im an Indian staying in Singapore for 7+ years now.

I did my Masters in Business Administration (Majors Managerial Accounting) here in 2013-2014. And eventually started working after my course.

Graduated in 2014 Feb.
Work Experience: 6 years in Singapore
Profile: Trading Manager - Trader and handling trade/physical gold operations in a Gold company. It is an old local company (30 Years) where i have worked since Apr 2014 - until now.
I have EP pass since Apr 2014 and currently my basic pay is SGD 5300.

I have Socially contributed to the Singapore society by volunteering in an organisation providing food to Old age homes & nursing home. Basically volunteered in a soup kitchen.

I have also done a short term course from SMU academy in 2018 for my growth in the field where i am working.

Im disappointed to know the outcome of my PR application. Do you think i should reapply again after 6 months or wait for an year?

Im really clueless at the moment, what can i do to increase the probability/chances to get my application approved.
Things are not going to be easy unless your salary increases exponentially. Also where did you get your MBA from? Local university?
Not a local university.

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