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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby Wd40 » Sun, 13 Jan 2019 9:22 pm

I kind of feel this a wierd way to evaluate people. Just because someone is high pay and mobile, they will move. Maybe people will stay if they get a PR and want to settledown and prefer to actually settledown in a place rather than be a gypsy.

So I don't quite buy that logic.

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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby LeadFoot » Sun, 13 Jan 2019 11:57 pm

jamie9vardy wrote:
LeadFoot wrote:Thanks for your response wd40. Unfortunately no. I've seen some of my very skilled friends and colleagues (from Switzerland and Japan) with double my (then) pay rejected. The later had a PhD from from John Hopkins and worked on surgical robotics (its a hot skillset even today). He even looked very Chinese :) . SG lost them to China (HK) a few years ago. This is first hand info and no hearsay. It was no surprise to me learn about my rejection (I wasnt anywhere nearly as skilled as them). Having said that, I also know heaps of Indonesians and Malaysians who had their PRs approved (some of them are now SG citizens) with a fraction of pay and diplomas from Unis unheard of.

Yes, you’re right. The formula is working, for many decades.

1) Your very skilled friends and colleagues are in high paying jobs and very mobile. If the HQ requires them to relocate or another even higher paying job comes up in another country, they’ll probably be there in a heart beat. i.e. no staying power.

2) Take a look at the SG Coat of arms and understand what the tiger on the right stands for - Malaysia. Disregard whatever disputes the 2 governments are having, Malaysians are the easiest to integrate into the SG society, as LKY put it in his own words - it’s a people, connected by geography, economics, and ties of kinship. Therefore, those Malaysians who earn less than you and whom you deem to be less educated or qualified may actually have a better chance at PR than you.

3) On diploma or degree from universities unheard of, you have to thank your compatriots who have used fake degrees from degree mills to obtain work pass or PR. ICA has learnt their lesson the hard way and they scrutinize the application more thoroughly.


I was merely responding to wd40 with facts I've seen (not heard of or assumed) as the conversation ensued as a result of my original question. Thanks for your opinion though and I'm sure it is helpful.

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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby LeadFoot » Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:28 am

Wd40 wrote:I kind of feel this a wierd way to evaluate people. Just because someone is high pay and mobile, they will move. Maybe people will stay if they get a PR and want to settledown and prefer to actually settledown in a place rather than be a gypsy.

So I don't quite buy that logic.

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I fully agree with you. I guess we don't have access to the real data to understand/interpret it correctly. I'm pretty sure ICA knows what it is doing. One of my in laws friends that I bump into during CNY re-union at my in-laws retired from ICA container divison a few years ago. According to him, there is a skills bank that ICA manages and as long as it is full for a certain skill, further such profiles won't be entertained for residence. And the preference for low skilled jobs is always given to a local and if it is not filled, it will be given to someone geographically close by (Malaysian/Indonesian?) and who fits into the race ratio. As the race ratio balance was tipped around late 2008/09, it makes sense to give more PRs who can fill that void (Malaysian and Indonesian chinese). Things may be uniformly tightened once this ratio falls into place. Apparently there was a skill shortage for IT profiles back in mid 2000's which caused the race ratio imbalance (with surge of Indians). Mind you, most of the jobs will be replaced by automation in the next decade and more so for IT/banking, so ICA being cautious make sense. Besides, ICA internally has a points system for assessing the residence applications and the points awarded varies every year based on certain factors (I'm guessing Indians in IT score negative points :) ).

By the way, this gentlemen said it is worth a try for me to apply for SPR under PTS scheme as my spouse's details are available to the assessor.

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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby x9200 » Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:42 am

Wd40 wrote:I kind of feel this a wierd way to evaluate people. Just because someone is high pay and mobile, they will move. Maybe people will stay if they get a PR and want to settledown and prefer to actually settledown in a place rather than be a gypsy.

So I don't quite buy that logic.

Probably because you don't have any insight to the statistics they might have.

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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby Wd40 » Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:06 pm

x9200 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:I kind of feel this a wierd way to evaluate people. Just because someone is high pay and mobile, they will move. Maybe people will stay if they get a PR and want to settledown and prefer to actually settledown in a place rather than be a gypsy.

So I don't quite buy that logic.

Probably because you don't have any insight to the statistics they might have.
Glad you are still around :) where is ZZM, JR8, Nakatago? All left is it?

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Re: Singapore PR chances based on scheme

Postby x9200 » Mon, 14 Jan 2019 8:22 pm

Wd40 wrote:
x9200 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:I kind of feel this a wierd way to evaluate people. Just because someone is high pay and mobile, they will move. Maybe people will stay if they get a PR and want to settledown and prefer to actually settledown in a place rather than be a gypsy.

So I don't quite buy that logic.

Probably because you don't have any insight to the statistics they might have.
Glad you are still around :) where is ZZM, JR8, Nakatago? All left is it?

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Yeah, I am still around, just not as often on this forum as I used to be.

Nakatago migrated to AU, ZZM was still in SG some time ago but I know nothing more than what was posted here. JR8 moved out from SG and disappeared kind of abruptly so I tried to trace him down a year or two ago and it looked he was still ok, just not posting here any longer.


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