PR application rejected

[Akshay87]

Hi everyone,

I have been following this forum for quite some time now and have got to know variety of applications for PR in Singapore through this forum. My story, I and my wife have been in Singapore for close to four years. I am pursuing my PhD under a very prestigious fellowship (granted to a few) and in the final year (completing soon) my wife is working as a research assistant in NUS. Below is our portfolio

Qualification: M.Sc/PhD (2018) yet to finish.
Annual stipend: 36000SGD...post PhD could be up-to 66000 SGD
Nationality: Indian, Hindu
Time of residence: 3.5 years.
Age:31years

Wife Qualification: M.Sc
Job: Research assistant
Annual salary: 37000SGD
Age: 31years
We are yet to have our first child and plan to reside in Singapore and settle here.

My wife applied on Nov 2017 got rejected yesterday (after 5 months).
The rejection letter says: We have considered your application and reviewed it. However, we cannot consider you for PR at this point in time. Nevertheless can continue working in Singapore.

My questions:

a) We did not apply together as I am still a student here. I do not know if she could put me in as a dependent. Could this be a critical factor for rejection.

b) Wife's salary is low. But this pay-scale is the average norm in research for the qualification.

c) As the letter quotes at this point in time but also says. Nevertheless, can continue to work in Singapore.

d) We plan to start a family ASAP so will that effect the outcome in future?

Thanks in advance!!

[PNGMK]

find a job reapply as a family later.

[singaporeflyer]

Hi everyone,

I have been following this forum for quite some time now and have got to know variety of applications for PR in Singapore through this forum. My story, I and my wife have been in Singapore for close to four years. I am pursuing my PhD under a very prestigious fellowship (granted to a few) and in the final year (completing soon) my wife is working as a research assistant in NUS. Below is our portfolio

Qualification: M.Sc/PhD (2018) yet to finish.
Annual stipend: 36000SGD...post PhD could be up-to 66000 SGD
Nationality: Indian, Hindu
Time of residence: 3.5 years.
Age:31years

Wife Qualification: M.Sc
Job: Research assistant
Annual salary: 37000SGD
Age: 31years
We are yet to have our first child and plan to reside in Singapore and settle here.

My wife applied on Nov 2017 got rejected yesterday (after 5 months).
The rejection letter says: We have considered your application and reviewed it. However, we cannot consider you for PR at this point in time. Nevertheless can continue working in Singapore.

My questions:

a) We did not apply together as I am still a student here. I do not know if she could put me in as a dependent. Could this be a critical factor for rejection.

b) Wife's salary is low. But this pay-scale is the average norm in research for the qualification.

c) As the letter quotes at this point in time but also says. Nevertheless, can continue to work in Singapore.

d) We plan to start a family ASAP so will that effect the outcome in future?

Thanks in advance!!

Apply as a family after you complete your PHD and have worked here for atleast 2 years.

[meaningless]

your wife was not rejected solely based on salary IMHO. A colleague of mine, with only a bachelor but assuming the same position as your wife, PR-ed just a few months ago. She is an Indian Malaysian FYI.

Per your application, it is true that it is more preferable for you to complete your degree and start working before you submit your application. Because, I was advised by a very similar case several years ago, that she get the idea that SG government would like to see her ability to get a work locally before issuing the PR. She was a PhD student and now a PostDoc.

I have been rejected once, and at the time of application I have worked for 2.5 years and was doing my PhD too (part time self finance, so I work full time and do my PhD at the same time). No reason was given, although I don't care. I have just submitted my second application. Actually, with the new ePR system in force, I can see that applying as a work pass/spouse holder are different from student pass/long term pass holder, simply based on different forms we will be directed to after the starting page. Nevertheless, I can't see why you would want to rush for the application because it is not hard to live in Singapore (i.e. by getting a job or setting up a company). It now costs you a hundred just to submit the form. So make it a good, worthy shot.

[Akshay87]

Thanks all for your replies. We are not in a hurry to get PR but planning a family with a baby could work against us as the ICA has mandated 6k minimum salary for DP (would be baby) and might result in relocation and thats a big decision. Although not on its way. I am quite sure I will not get paid 6k immediately after PhD (usually 4.5 to 5k is the norm) and waiting for two more years before starting a family could be bad biologically for both of us.

Again its luck and fate I believe!! Waiting for my 6K salary threshold to start a family also does not make sense to me and I don't know if that is gonna happen anytime soon. You know just to say.
Yes, waiting until I graduate and applying immediately makes sense to me as well.

Thanks again!

[PNGMK]

Take a step back. You're letting Singapore PR cloud your view. WHERE should you be to best leverage your PHD? I can't believe the answer is Singapore.

[meaningless]

Oh then now I understand you worries. If I were you I would ask your wife to re-submit the PR application after half a year from the date of rejection. I am saying that because it is easier to get the pass for the baby if either of you has became PR. And for you, you really will have to wait for that another half year (I assume that the whole duration of your stay was because of your study). Right after you submitted your thesis you will be switched from student pass to EP, processed by NUS as routine and assuming that you get a fellowship right after that. That said, if the above is true, you and your wife might as well have your application submitted together as a family because both of you would have to wait for that half a year.

My another suggestion is that you can go to your department or dean office for advice over your case. They are, actually quite surprisingly, experienced and helpful on these issues.

While so much of my sympathy, sacrifice till unexpected is the cruel truth for an academic life even for stellar scholar. Best of luck to you and your family.

[meaningless]

BTW, would you consider to take a position in the industrial sector? You have sweet chance to get well above 6k.

[Wd40]

PHD and research assistant. I bet your child will become a rocket scientist. You should be in the US. What are you doing here?

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[singaporeflyer]

Oh then now I understand you worries. If I were you I would ask your wife to re-submit the PR application after half a year from the date of rejection. I am saying that because it is easier to get the pass for the baby if either of you has became PR. And for you, you really will have to wait for that another half year (I assume that the whole duration of your stay was because of your study). Right after you submitted your thesis you will be switched from student pass to EP, processed by NUS as routine and assuming that you get a fellowship right after that. That said, if the above is true, you and your wife might as well have your application submitted together as a family because both of you would have to wait for that half a year.

My another suggestion is that you can go to your department or dean office for advice over your case. They are, actually quite surprisingly, experienced and helpful on these issues.

While so much of my sympathy, sacrifice till unexpected is the cruel truth for an academic life even for stellar scholar. Best of luck to you and your family.

Singapore recognizes PHD holders well.

Once you start working, you should be easily getting your PR. So, for you it is just a matter of time

I personally have 3 PHD Holder friends in SG and all of them have their PR along with their family.

[phamtieugiao]

I'm being honest. I advise you to give up on it if you are not Malaysian/Indonesian. Start looking for better opportunities in other countries. Many of my friends went to Canada/Australia and they were all happy.

[YKit]

Need Advice for Pending Application in Singapore.

Hi all,

I have applied my first application since 08-08-2016 together with my wife, 2 daughters, and I was rejected on December 2017. Waited for the pending results almost 16 months and turned out rejected. I was not sure about the reasons. I need to seek advice from the seniors here.

Profile:
Malaysian, Chinese
Worked in Singapore since I was 18 and 11 years in Singapore.
Paid income tax every year.
Changed different field through 11 years, I have Diploma in IT from Kaplan, ISC Yard Crane from PSA, Diploma ITEC for Hollistic massage.

-Intentions to take IT certs onwards*If needed*-

Taken S Pass since 2016.
Changed company after 11 months at first company, 2nd company for 3 months and changed to current now since July 2017 till now. Basic offer 2,300 from previous to current company now 2,600
29 years old
Married since 2012
Children: 6 & 4 years old


Role: Assistant Manager in Retail Outlet since July 2017

Appeal PR after rejection 2 weeks later. Now appeal pending up to 6 months up to date. My employer is going to amend my basic to 3k starting July.

Is there any possibility to get my PR granted as family unit?

Trying to seek advice from seniors and experts here. Appreciate if anyone can provide a good advice for me. Otherwise I’m getting stuck.

Thank you for the time to look into my message.


With regards,

YKit



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[sundaymorningstaple]

Truthfully? I doubt it. You are all over the place. It looks like you cannot make up your mind or you cannot hold a job (we don't know the reasons you left) and your jobs are all over the place. Even though you are the chosen race & nationality, your background looks shaky as the devil.

But that need not stop you from trying. Who knows....stranger things have happened.

[YKit]

Truthfully? I doubt it. You are all over the place. It looks like you cannot make up your mind or you cannot hold a job (we don't know the reasons you left) and your jobs are all over the place. Even though you are the chosen race & nationality, your background looks shaky as the devil.

But that need not stop you from trying. Who knows....stranger things have happened.

Hi, do you really know how long would the pending process for appeal letter takes? Has anyone know the duration of pending period for application for a family unit? Desperate to know please


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[sundaymorningstaple]

It used to be 6 weeks to 6 months. No idea what it is today. Or for a closer guesstimate, how long is a piece of string. Unless you forgot to put down your PhD. in astrophysics, appeals aren't much good, but good luck.