You will run into two problems, both related. First, all the universities have become so singularly career track minded that if you don't follow the path, you don't get in. Get your masters, get your post doc, do some post doc research and write a couple of papers. See if you can attract some grant money, be invited to teach/maybe do research as nontenured individual. Publish some more, get some grants, get some tenure.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
"Back" is the keyword, unless you are an outstanding and academically recognized individual.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
I am guessing you are saying this for the role of a Professor, Reader or a Lecturer.......How about for a Teaching Assistant (TA)?. Since a TA only assists the Professors, Lecturers prepare class notes, assists in any technical queries and sometimes doubles up for the Professor / Lecturer in case of his / her's absence, now and then, why would TA's need to be doctorates?Strong Eagle wrote:You will run into two problems, both related. First, all the universities have become so singularly career track minded that if you don't follow the path, you don't get in. Get your masters, get your post doc, do some post doc research and write a couple of papers. See if you can attract some grant money, be invited to teach/maybe do research as nontenured individual. Publish some more, get some grants, get some tenure.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
And, problem two, if you don't have that PhD, all these damn schools are so credential conscious that they won't want to look at you without an advanced degree... it just doesn't look good on the advertising materials... even if you invented the damn discipline.
I agree on the fact that several of our educators are outstanding and recognised in their respective fields of interest. However I do not think each every lecturer or a professor would necessarily be well-recognised in their field. I have graduated in engineering in one of the Tier 1 universities in the US and I can tell you not all of those lecturers / professors, who were well recognised were necessarily outstanding teachers. Rather there were many lecturers, with ordinary credentials, turned out to be very good at whatever subjects they taught in the university.x9200 wrote:"Back" is the keyword, unless you are an outstanding and academically recognized individual.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
Probably you stand a better chance teaching under WSQ system in one of the accredited organization/company.
http://www.ssg.gov.sg
What I meant by "back" is that you worked at the uni for a few years, you were offered a job, a contract perhaps, in industry and after the contract ended, the uni accepted you back. In other words they already know you and you have some connections. Than you don't need to be that outstanding.bak_kwa wrote:I agree on the fact that several of our educators are outstanding and recognised in their respective fields of interest. However I do not think each every lecturer or a professor would necessarily be well-recognised in their field. I have graduated in engineering in one of the Tier 1 universities in the US and I can tell you not all of those lecturers / professors, who were well recognised were necessarily outstanding teachers. Rather there were many lecturers, with ordinary credentials, turned out to be very good at whatever subjects they taught in the university.x9200 wrote:"Back" is the keyword, unless you are an outstanding and academically recognized individual.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
Probably you stand a better chance teaching under WSQ system in one of the accredited organization/company.
http://www.ssg.gov.sg
Thanks for the suggestion on the WSQ training. I checked out the WSQ website that you had suggested. However it appears its suitable for those who can impart training in non-engineering fields although there is some mention for training Marine engineering but that is more for Marine Engineering subjects covering "shop floor" related areas viz. technical trade, welders, cutters construction etc. not really for design engineering related areas. However your idea has led me to a thought on how it would be if I could be a corporate trainer and look for such a role in any engineering or any of the related companies here in Singapore?
I am by no means trying to dissuade you, only to point out that the positions you mentioned are in demand... as jobs for grad students working towards that PhD thesis, and they are resume fodder for those on a career track to a tenured teaching position.bak_kwa wrote:I am guessing you are saying this for the role of a Professor, Reader or a Lecturer.......How about for a Teaching Assistant (TA)?. Since a TA only assists the Professors, Lecturers prepare class notes, assists in any technical queries and sometimes doubles up for the Professor / Lecturer in case of his / her's absence, now and then, why would TA's need to be doctorates?Strong Eagle wrote:You will run into two problems, both related. First, all the universities have become so singularly career track minded that if you don't follow the path, you don't get in. Get your masters, get your post doc, do some post doc research and write a couple of papers. See if you can attract some grant money, be invited to teach/maybe do research as nontenured individual. Publish some more, get some grants, get some tenure.bak_kwa wrote:Is it so? .....How about Polytechnics?..... Please do let me know in case you have a chance to speak with them.
I know that in the west there are several instances of engineers going back to universities to teach after spending several years in the industry.......although.....Singapore may be different in this matter.
Regards
And, problem two, if you don't have that PhD, all these damn schools are so credential conscious that they won't want to look at you without an advanced degree... it just doesn't look good on the advertising materials... even if you invented the damn discipline.
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