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Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Sun, 15 Apr 2018 6:28 pm

Hi all,

recently I came across a few consultancy company online claiming to be able to help their clients to get their PR statues and the success rate is up to 90%-98% . I managed to call up one of the company and schedule a meeting with them.

When I went for my appointment at the company I notice that the company office and the staff looks very professional. However during the meeting with the staff of the company, they are really pushy in asking me to commit in engaging their services with them, the PR application isn't cheap as well. As the start they quote the price at $6000 for the package of services, after telling the manager that I needed time to think through and discuss with my wife, they kept insisting if I was serious to get my PR status as many people are engaging their services. In the end they even cut the price from $6000 to just $2000 and I could even pay by installment. At this point of time here i was really interested as i felt $2000 is a major discount from the originate amount. I ask the manager since they wrote 98% approval rate on their website, should i make the payment and the application isn't successful, what will happen. They simply told me that there is no gurantee in getting the PR just that the success rate with them is high. Sensing something is fishy, i told them i need to do some research first before commiting to their services.

After the appointment with the consultancy company, i went down to ICA to enquire more information. From the information given by ICA, they do not encourage to engage with these consultancy companies and there are no such higher chance of approval by engaging their services. On the websites of these companies, they boast an approval rate of 90%-98% which is ridiculous highly from i think. Every 100 candidates applying with them, at least 90 of them will get approve, but the statistics release by ICA shows the unsucessful rate is high so it's quite unlikely 90%-98% of the candidates will actually get their PR status as what these companies says. I highly doubt the authenticity of the statistics release by these company as who knows if it's even true. Applying a PR with ICA cost only at $100 but by paying $2K - $6K to engage with these companies, its as good as applying 20-60 times with ICA !

After finding out all these information, i decided to research more into these consultancy companies. I notice that these companies prey on the foreigners that got rejected on their PR status previously by ICA whom are desperate to get their PR status. Many of these companies offices are in prime areas in CBD areas, they wear suits and dress professionally , but after digging up more information, almost all of these companies are in fact renting shared offices in singapore. Basically they are just preying on people whom are desperate to get their PRS and also making their office looks really big and professional but in truth the manpower of these companies might just be a few people. i had check around with friends from my surrounding whom had previously took up the services from these companies, and so far out of 6 friends only 1 is still in process, the remaining 5 had got rejected for PR and they had basically paid $2K-$3K for nothing. I am writing this post to warn others that are engage by these consultancy companies. Do your research and not just by reading whats on their website as website is design by the companies and they can beautify it as good as they want. And also beware when going down for the appointments in these companies as their sales stuff is really aggressive , they will expect you to make some sort of payment before you can really leave. Guys kindly share with one and another to prevent paying for some service that isn't worth at all

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Sun, 15 Apr 2018 8:46 pm

I just notice there are a few other post few years back on this forum warning of these consultancy companies. Guess i was right, and i wasn't the only one facing all these. Anyone has recently went for appointment with these companies ?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:41 pm

We've been giving you all fair warning for over a decade now but still some want to try it.

Oh, I don't doubt their success rate at all. They will cherry pick their customers and once that see all your stats they will retain the right to take you on as a client. That way they will only be submitting those who would have made it in any case by just filling out the forms themselves as we've been saying for years. The application and supporting instructions as simple enough for any N level holder to fill out. ICA get suspicious when looking at those filled out by lawyers or consultants as they figure the only people stupid enough to use them are trying to hide something or trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:15 am

it's one thing to have "consultancy" services but if the so call 90%-98% stated on their website is not accurate isn't it misleading or even consider as a scam to others. Providing false statistic and fake testimonial on website to entice and lure candidates to engage their services. If you guys go to check at ACRA, there are a few companies that is only recently registered but claims on their website that they have been operating for several years. Is this legal in Singapore?

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 16 Apr 2018 1:42 am

aculate87 wrote:it's one thing to have "consultancy" services but if the so call 90%-98% stated on their website is not accurate isn't it misleading or even consider as a scam to others. Providing false statistic and fake testimonial on website to entice and lure candidates to engage their services. If you guys go to check at ACRA, there are a few companies that is only recently registered but claims on their website that they have been operating for several years. Is this legal in Singapore?


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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby BBCDoc » Mon, 16 Apr 2018 6:53 am

Apply for PR with 98% success rate...

Please break down the language exactly:
They can submit the PR application successfully 98% of the time. There is nothing to do with outcome of the application.


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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby PNGMK » Mon, 16 Apr 2018 8:20 am

BBCDoc wrote:Apply for PR with 98% success rate...

Please break down the language exactly:
They can submit the PR application successfully 98% of the time. There is nothing to do with outcome of the application.


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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:23 am

BBCDoc wrote:Apply for PR with 98% success rate...

Please break down the language exactly:
They can submit the PR application successfully 98% of the time. There is nothing to do with outcome of the application.


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I just went to google a few companies and most write it as PR approval rate of over 90% or getting singapore PR with over 98% success rate. In one of the companies i had notice that the company is only registered with ACRA less then 3 months but states that they had help over 13000 people getting their PR. I highly doubt the authenticity of this.

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby Geloski » Tue, 24 Apr 2018 5:07 pm

Hello,

May I know the name of this companies.

I recently got a call from immigration solutions, immigration@SG LLP and iasg.

let me know if this is the companies that you went before.

thanks,

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 24 Apr 2018 5:48 pm

They are all the same. a fool and their money are soon parted.

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby blaxsnake » Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:03 pm

Geloski wrote:Hello,

May I know the name of this companies.

I recently got a call from immigration solutions, immigration@SG LLP and iasg.

let me know if this is the companies that you went before.

thanks,

Mine was immigration solutions.. They are bunch of scam
Giving me rate of 4-5k and showed me some success stories from my hometown fellow which I believe they creates themselves

Also when I ask them that I got rejected before and what's the percentage that they can assure me to get my PR approved.. They said if my previous submission got something wrong they can not guarantee.. freak right..

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Thu, 26 Apr 2018 2:49 pm

Geloski wrote:Hello,

May I know the name of this companies.

I recently got a call from immigration solutions, immigration@SG LLP and iasg.

let me know if this is the companies that you went before.

thanks,


mine was actually called Singapore immigration specialist. They are really persistent and hard selling. If you don't take up a package with them they simply won't allow you to leave the office. I had checked on ACRA Singapore, this company is very newly opened like less then 3 months but boost that they had help tons to get their PRS . I was wondering by providing false statistic, is this legal ?

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby aculate87 » Thu, 26 Apr 2018 2:52 pm

blaxsnake wrote:
Geloski wrote:Hello,

May I know the name of this companies.

I recently got a call from immigration solutions, immigration@SG LLP and iasg.

let me know if this is the companies that you went before.

thanks,

Mine was immigration solutions.. They are bunch of scam
Giving me rate of 4-5k and showed me some success stories from my hometown fellow which I believe they creates themselves

Also when I ask them that I got rejected before and what's the percentage that they can assure me to get my PR approved.. They said if my previous submission got something wrong they can not guarantee.. freak right..


My friend actually applied with this company before. They very very persistent and my friend gave in. I believe the amount he paid was $5000 and it has been like 6 months with no news. Last i heard from my friend was that if the application was not approval, the company can do a appeal for him at a *Special Rate* like $1000-$2000

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Re: Applying PR with consultancy companies

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 26 Apr 2018 5:37 pm

Like we have been telling you from the get-go, stay as far away from them as possible. Fools and their money soon parted. If you can pass the eligibility to apply questionnaire on the MOM website, then you shouldn't have any reason to not be able to do it yourself. After all, the application form was designed to be easy enough to be filled out by a secondary school N level holder. If you guys need to hire a consultant and you have a degree, then what does that say about your academic qualifications. Common sense should tell you that they cannot put anything on those forms unless you give them the data to put down. They are nothing but form fillers who have the gift of the gab to sucker their countrymen into their scam. If you are really qualified then you don't need any help. :-k ](*,) #-o


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