qwertykeyboard:bcheng74 wrote:Did you attend local school or International School? If you had ever attended local school, you would have already gained social benefits.
This time you have overshot your mark. He has never been a PR so it doesn't matter whether he went to a local or international school. If he's been here on a Student pass, the NS issue is of no concern, per se. ONLY PR and SGC males are required to serve NS.
However, if he has been here as a student pass holder all these years, then if he avails himself of the option that the government is using, then as a codocil of gaining PR without otherwise qualifiying for it like everybody else, then yes, he will have to do NS.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:I am replying to his point claiming that he should be entitled to PR without serving NS because he didn’t use any social benefit. In the view of gahmen, his argument will not fly.bcheng74 wrote:Did you attend local school or International School? If you had ever attended local school, you would have already gained social benefits.
This time you have overshot your mark. He has never been a PR so it doesn't matter whether he went to a local or international school. If he's been here on a Student pass, the NS issue is of no concern, per se. ONLY PR and SGC males are required to serve NS.
However, if he has been here as a student pass holder all these years, then if he avails himself of the option that the government is using, then as a codocil of gaining PR without otherwise qualifiying for it like everybody else, then yes, he will have to do NS.
And I absolutely agree with you that his story is not as simple as he mentioned.
Methinks you are between a rock and a hard place, to tell the truth.qwertykeyboard wrote:My parents were divorced when my mother decided to bring me here and she remarried to a Singaporean man. Neither my parents are Singaporeans at the time of my birth (my mother has since converted to Singaporean).
I believe that she tried applying for me again after getting her PR but because she was a homemaker and not drawing a salary, I think that's the basis of the rejections. After a couple of times, she just gave up.
Thanks for your input. I'll be mulling this over. Seeing as I'm 25, I'm not really keen to go for NS now (however I wouldn't have opposed when I was 20 and all my friends were going through it) and do mind numbing work for 2 years when I could be gaining experience in my field of choice.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Methinks you are between a rock and a hard place, to tell the truth.qwertykeyboard wrote:My parents were divorced when my mother decided to bring me here and she remarried to a Singaporean man. Neither my parents are Singaporeans at the time of my birth (my mother has since converted to Singaporean).
I believe that she tried applying for me again after getting her PR but because she was a homemaker and not drawing a salary, I think that's the basis of the rejections. After a couple of times, she just gave up.
I know it's personal but sometime some facts may shed a wee be more light. When she remarried, were you still a minor child? If so, why did your stepfather not adopt you? On another point, did your mother have sole custody? If not, I believe the government may have thought that your real father would/could create problems if there was joint custody. However, none of these things, today, will make any difference (aside from our quest for knowledge of how MOM/ICA look at things). The fact remains that because you have not had PR and have been on a student pass all these years, puts the onus on you.
He couldn't adopt me because my biological father refused to give up his rights. Quite ironic because he was always on me to remain in Singapore. I do see from his perspective but he should have done what was best in my interest.
If you want PR and possibly SGC, you are going to have to apply for the PR as offered via the current offering. That, if successful, is going to entail doing NS. As for the fairness of it? Well, another way to look at it is that if your student pass expires, you will have to leave the country after 30 days. Then the only way to gain PR is to earn it in your own right, e.g., you are going to need at least 4 or 5 years experience in a field that may still be open to foreigners in that kind of time from and then apply for an Employment Pass. After obtaining an EP for 2 or 3 years you can then apply for PR. (You know, I'm sure, that they are curtailing the hiring of FTs rather dramatically in the past 5 years or so). Without experience, you will not be able to get a job here. Foreign freshers cannot get jobs here. Why hire a foreigner fresh graduate when there are local graduates that can be hired. In your case it will be even worse as your education will be the same as the locals but you will still be a foreigner (even though you have been here almost all of your life). This is not your fault, but your mother & possibly stepfather's fault for not being persistent enough.
The way around it? Other than applying and doing the NS if successful, you would have to leave home and live in your country of origin and find a job there to gain enough experience to try and come back and apply for an Employment Pass if you can find work and then follow the protocol towards PR like the rest of had to do. And at the rate that they are closing the doors on Employment Passes, who knows what it will look like in 3 or 4 more years.
I do have to work in Singapore for 3 years under the Tuition Grant agreement so I think securing a LTVP is not going to be a problem but yes I agree, it's going to be difficult to find a job without being a PR which is why I'm considering getting one in the first place.
I wish I had better information for you, but I've seen this happen all too often and always with bad results. As your mother is now an SGC, maybe a trip to the MPS and talk with your MP, but I've not seen much good come from that venue either. They will write a letter to the relevant ministry but the ministries don't really pay too much attention from what I've seen.
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Can't you just create a thread of your question?ray1008 wrote:Hi I was hoping someone can help me with this:
1) I am about to apply Ltvp for my spouse on 16May. Some information about myself:
I am a singaporean 27 yrs old.
My salary is 2.7k per month. Working in a reputable company. working for 6 months with the company already.
I am a ACCA diploma holder in Accountancy.
My wife is PRC, earning 1.6k per month. Holding onto work permit. Some issue about her company, she cant get letter of employment from her company. (I heard from alot of applicant applying that ICA requires Letter of employment from my wife)
Basically her employer is bad. Treats their employee in a very bad manner.
My question is can she use her payslip to support her application if lets say ICA ask for her letter of employment ?
& what is my chances for the approval of Ltvp?
I really hope someone can help me with this.
Thank you so much.
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