Here's the deal. If the pte ltd is just you and your wife, then you are the sole shareholders. And, you are the directors (at least one of you), and you are the employees of the pte ltd.brentlm wrote:Hi, I have a small startup (pte ltd) run by just me and my wife.
1. Are we considered as employees of the company where it's a must to issue a contract of service to ourselves?
2. If we are employees, I understand from MOM's website that under the Employment Act, the employer needs to pay salary at least once a month. We no not plan on drawing any salary at the moment but only pay ourselves with directors fees in certain months when the business does well. Is this arrangement workable as long as we indicate how we want to be paid in the contract of service?
Thanks in advance.
It's very common. Also consider issuing yourself a loan from the company instead of fees. Get advice on whether this is classified as income or not. Director's fees are, loans (if repaid) should not be.brentlm wrote:Thanks Strong Eagle, your reply is very helpful.
Just to clarify, is it normal to indicate in the contact of service that we'll receive no salary and just purely directors' fees?
When it comes to filling taxes, will it appear odd to IRAS that even though I'm an employee of the company but I only get paid with director's fee? I would think that this is common practice especially for founders of start-ups where cash flow is not so stable in the first few years so i guess there is no issue?
Thanks.
Strong Eagle wrote: Now, in a larger company, where people might complain, you would need to issue a contract for service so that your employees would know exactly the terms they worked under. But, for you and your wife, you don't need to prepare any contracts. What are you going to do? Turn yourselves in for failure to issue contracts to yourselves?
No one will ever come and ask to see your contracts. MoM only gets involved when there is a complaint. It's the same thing with salaries. If you have employees besides yourself, then yes, you need to pay regularly because your employees could complain to MoM. But again, are you going to report yourself for not paying a salary to yourself each month? Of course not!
In the case of an exempt Pte Ltd where a director-shareholder has a basic understanding of tax and company filings (but is not a tax or accounting professional) and is considering being company secretary, would you know of any publicly accessible resources or websites that illustrate a typical format ACRA expects, as a guide for filing of AGM/EGM resolutions and reports?Strong Eagle wrote: So, yes, your arrangement is completely workable and you don't need any contracts for service. Here is what you may need, however. Unless you know how to file directors resolutions and minutes for AGM's and EGM's then you will need a secretary. It is important that the governing of the company be in compliance with ACRA rules. For example, if you want pay directors fees, it takes a resolution at an AGM or EGM to make it legal under the companies act.
As with paying yourself monthly, or having a contract for service, you don't really need to have held an AGM or EGM since it is only you and your wife, you only need to have corporate records to show that meetings were held and that shareholders approved the actions. This is very common in virtually all self owned pte ltd's and any CPA or skilled person should be able to help you with this.
Yes, there is the idea of ordinary wages and additional wages (citizens and PR's only). The point is this. If you were to pay an employee $6000 per month, every month, there would be CPF taken out amounting to about $2200 each month for employer plus employee share.GSM8 wrote:Thanks SE. Appreciate all your accurate and to the point information. A few additional doubts I had related to OP's question. As you say, monthly paychecks may not be needed, but aren't timely monthly CPF contributions due based on the "notional" monthly salary? (at least for owner-employees who are Singapore citizen/PR)
Yes, the six month rule is correct, as I recall.In the case of an exempt Pte Ltd where a director-shareholder has a basic understanding of tax and company filings (but is not a tax or accounting professional) and is considering being company secretary, would you know of any publicly accessible resources or websites that illustrate a typical format ACRA expects, as a guide for filing of AGM/EGM resolutions and reports?
Also, is my understanding correct that 6 months are available from the end of the first year for filing of AGM report, so a new company technically does not have to file anything for the first 18 months?
brentlm wrote:Hi, I have a small startup (pte ltd) run by just me and my wife.
1. Are we considered as employees of the company where it's a must to issue a contract of service to ourselves?
2. If we are employees, I understand from MOM's website that under the Employment Act, the employer needs to pay salary at least once a month. We no not plan on drawing any salary at the moment but only pay ourselves with directors fees in certain months when the business does well. Is this arrangement workable as long as we indicate how we want to be paid in the contract of service?
Thanks in advance.
That is correct. Audited books are only required of an exempt pte under limited circumstances, for example, if you're part of a government program doling cash to your company. I found that banks want audited books if you have the expectation of getting corporate credit cards or you want to factor receivables.GSM8 wrote:So, as I understand then, while exempt private companies (EPC) need not have audited accounts or submit anything beyond an annual summary report to ACRA, they are still obliged to maintain all the declarations/AGM/EGM/shareholder records per companies act, just like a larger Pte Ltd.
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