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Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Wed, 20 Dec 2017 1:06 am

Hi all

Just wanted to check my chances of getting a pr.
. Msian chinese
. Salary : sgd144k per annum
. Worked and lived in sg since april 2017.
. Used to work and live in sg back in 2015 for about 1.5 years with salary of sgd104k. Economy went south and I left.
. Married to malaysian, with 2 kids. I plan to apply together with my family.
. Age: 44

Any input is much appreciated.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby BBCDoc » Wed, 20 Dec 2017 5:32 am

Sounds good, you should apply.

Note that ‘sounds good’ does not mean 100% guaranteed successful outcome


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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Wed, 20 Dec 2017 8:30 am

Ubderstood. Any idea what the wait time is like before knowing the results?

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 20 Dec 2017 9:55 am

I don't think it sounds very good at all. You were here in 2015 for only a year and half, and then you left. The reason doesn't matter, you didn't have any staying power. You left. What's that say about your desire to be permanently in Singapore?

And now, barely more than 6 months into your second EP, you want to apply for PR? Did you read that the gahmen wants three years of assessments?

I don't think you'll have a snowball's chance in hell until you prove that you can/will stay longer than a year and a half. That would mean two to three years of assessments.

But, pay your $100 if you want and see what happens.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 21 Dec 2017 9:04 am

I'm inclined to agree with Strong Eagle on this. Yes you are from the chosen race, but you still have to meet minimum protocols and appear you are not in it for the benefits and will run at the first sign of a faltering economy..

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Thu, 21 Dec 2017 4:24 pm

Hmmm that's true if you view it from that perspective. The only thing that will change is i just confirmed by my employee as a FTE (was previously on contract).So i am hoping that would make a difference.

Also, Strongeagle - where does it say that you need 3 years' tax assessment? can you kindly point me to that source of information? My source is https://www.ica.gov.sg/cms/files/forms/Explanatory%20Notes%20and%20Document%20List%20(for%20holder%20of%20an%20Employment%20pass%20or%20S%20pass).pdf

ps: strongeagle, why do you sound so angry?

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby jamie9vardy » Thu, 21 Dec 2017 5:06 pm

Droll wrote:Hmmm that's true if you view it from that perspective. The only thing that will change is i just confirmed by my employee as a FTE (was previously on contract).So i am hoping that would make a difference.

Also, Strongeagle - where does it say that you need 3 years' tax assessment? can you kindly point me to that source of information? My source is https://www.ica.gov.sg/cms/files/forms/Explanatory%20Notes%20and%20Document%20List%20(for%20holder%20of%20an%20Employment%20pass%20or%20S%20pass).pdf

ps: strongeagle, why do you sound so angry?

OP - it was a requirement all along to have at least 3 years of tax assessments from IRAS. (https://www.ica.gov.sg/cms/files/Aug17_XNotesPTS.pdf)

However, it seems like this has been dropped from the latest round of update, after the implementation of ePR on 18/12/17.

P/s: I don't think SE is angry. He's just telling it as it is.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Barnsley » Thu, 21 Dec 2017 6:43 pm

jamie9vardy wrote:
Droll wrote:Hmmm that's true if you view it from that perspective. The only thing that will change is i just confirmed by my employee as a FTE (was previously on contract).So i am hoping that would make a difference.

Also, Strongeagle - where does it say that you need 3 years' tax assessment? can you kindly point me to that source of information? My source is https://www.ica.gov.sg/cms/files/forms/Explanatory%20Notes%20and%20Document%20List%20(for%20holder%20of%20an%20Employment%20pass%20or%20S%20pass).pdf

ps: strongeagle, why do you sound so angry?

OP - it was a requirement all along to have at least 3 years of tax assessments from IRAS. (https://www.ica.gov.sg/cms/files/Aug17_XNotesPTS.pdf)

However, it seems like this has been dropped from the latest round of update, after the implementation of ePR on 18/12/17.

P/s: I don't think SE is angry. He's just telling it as it is.


I guess no need anymore once you grant IRAS access to your details.

A9 looks new though, a letter from your present employer , livens things up for if you jump ship during the process.
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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Thu, 21 Dec 2017 7:37 pm

Alright. Thanks for the guidance folks.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 22 Dec 2017 6:13 am

Droll wrote:Hmmm that's true if you view it from that perspective. The only thing that will change is i just confirmed by my employee as a FTE (was previously on contract).So i am hoping that would make a difference.

ps: strongeagle, why do you sound so angry?


I'm not angry at all... I don't think you have accepted the situation as it is, as you say, "that's true if you view it from that perspective." But, that is the perspective the gahmen is going to view it from.

Because you need to have an insight to another perspective that the gahmen holds. They are absolutely not offering you a PR because they are a bunch of nice folks who want to see you achieve your dreams. Quite the contrary, they only want to select people that they feel will further their own goals for Singapore.

You can bet that while we'll never get to see it, there is a pretty comprehensive point sheet used to score applicants, in behind the evaluation process. And if you have been in and out of the country, that's minus points for you, especially when compared to the bloke who hung around through thick and thin.

You are fortunate that you are now an FTE, for it's lots of minus points for PR consideration if you are only on contract and the rug could be pulled out on your employment at any time. Contract = temporary... at least that's the view.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Fri, 22 Dec 2017 6:46 am

I suppose the best thing to do now is to wait 3 years before i apply. Thank you.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby BBCDoc » Fri, 22 Dec 2017 9:49 pm

Well, they could also change any of the requirements within the next 3 years to be more stringent than now...honestly, the chances are as good as gambling in either of the casinos...either way you are going against the house


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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Strong Eagle » Sat, 23 Dec 2017 12:13 am

Droll wrote:I suppose the best thing to do now is to wait 3 years before i apply. Thank you.


I'm not saying you shouldn't apply... just don't get your hopes up, and be prepared to burn the application fee.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby Droll » Mon, 25 Dec 2017 9:23 am

Alright so what i am hearing is there is no certainty and this applies to both sides of the coin. In that case it is best to have zero expectations when applying.

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Re: Pr application prospects

Postby BBCDoc » Mon, 25 Dec 2017 4:51 pm

Almost a case of ‘damned if you do, and damned if you don’t’


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