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Postby tinkerbell88 » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:59 am

Dear Boii18,
I saw your pic. I think your chin will look nicer with a filler. Why did the doc suggest fats? Do you have fat to remove and place in your chin? That would mean poking you twice? If you put on weight so does your chin, wont that be strange? I dont know about fat fillers at the chin, but I had my fillers to my cheeks by a lady aesthetic doc at Lucky Plaza and it seems nice and it's still there after a couple of months. I didn't get a fat filler, I got a natural, biodegradable type that lasts one year. It's more natural. You may want to consider that. I think it is called Juviiderme? Costs me about $1300. It's what they all get in Hollywood, short of an implant. It's an option I guess. Keep us posted on what you finally do! It's exciting.
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Postby beauty-wannabe » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 2:07 am

Anybody traveling to Korea in aug??

Am planning to go for revision surgery with dr Kwon and would love to have a travel buddy!

Please reply if you are! :)

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Postby Passing By_1 » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:58 pm

Hi I am pretty new here... I would like to know anyone have good doc to recommend for nose job as I've done my very first ones in 2005 in Gleneagles by one of the famous doc... It turned out to be ok...and then a year later, I went back to reduce my nose by removing some flesh at the side of my nose, hence, my nostrils became smaller and I could not put my finger into it... The worst case was less than 6 months, there was side-effect whereby the implant shifted and caused a dent on my nose tip...
Thus, i went for my 3rd surgery just to "protect" my implant by removing a catrige from my right ear to act as a cushion on the nose tip... Nevertheless, the surgery failed. It did not help at all... hence, I've no choice but to go thru' my 4th surgery to remove my implant and my catrige... I was very upset and angry as I've spent on alot of money just to went thru' a failed surgery especially I've to scarifice my ear catrige for nothing and now even my right ear also became slightly smaller whereby I could even dig my ear with my finger as compared to last time... most importantly, I've ended with a dented nose ...
As a result, I've to go for my 5th and 6th surgery to stitch back on d dented nose after 1 year as it need to let the nose heal since it has been operated for many times.... And, the scar is still obvious on my nose tip...it has made me very sad since then... Now, it has been almost 5 years now... I've no choice but to decide to go for another surgery to make my scar less obvious and most importantly, I want to have a better breathing as my nostrils are so small that even my last finger as cannot insert in...as I've to use cotton bud to clean my nostrils... It has been so much torture and I am looking for a new hope to help me re-build my confidence as i could not accept the failure after so many years of the failed surgery... I really need help is there any good doc good in nose revision....Thank you...

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Postby marc87 » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 2:35 pm

Dear Expats/Singaporeans,

I am a journalist with Esquire magazine here in Malaysia. We're doing a feature and I am looking to get in touch with doctors and MALE clients who perform/have undergone cosmetic surgery. We're specifically looking for those who do/have done things like pectoral/ab implants (and other more intensive surgeries).

We're trying to get a sense of how widespread the trend is in the region--why men do it, is it just about vanity--or more.

Any assistance in the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Marc

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Partner In Crime Wanted : )

Postby TheyCallMeHollywood » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 4:30 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm set on going to hatyai for a second round of improvement ( have done a first round of surgery elsewhere, very happy w/ results now on to 2nd round to "tweak"). it's my first time doing surgery in Thailand though so I'm looking for a travel partner , safer as I'm a female in strange country and I would enjoy the company

- I am leaning towards dr.putt for nose refinement and dr.chi for forehead/cheek implants and either doctor for BA.

I am thinking of going in first/2nd week of august. anyone interested?

I would also like to know if anyone here has had good experience with increasing bridge height and tip refinement in hatyai/Bangkok. my current nose is like Maya Karin's ( a Malaysian celebrity) , but with slightly lower bridge. once I have done my forehead aug, a higher bridge and a slightly more refined tip would look natural.

bad experiences are also welcomed. thanks!

ps/ I'm planning to stay about 10 days (in my personal experience it's better you stay at least 7 days after any surgery because thats the peak period for complications to occur) but if you want to leave earlier it's alright. we can share acoomodations but if you're more comfortable having your own room etc that's fine as well.
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.
Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.

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Re: Partner In Crime Wanted : )

Postby Non-Perfect Perfectionist » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 7:05 am

QUOTE SIGNATURE FROM TheyCallMeHollywood
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.
Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.



Hi TheyCallMeHollywood,

I read under your signature that you'd done Braces and Thread Lift which are two of which I've been thinking of doing.

Would really appreciate if you could share your experiences and result ratings here of both?

1. I'm already in my mid 30s, really not sure if it's worth the torment and money to do braces still.

2. The Thread Lift, may I know when and where did you have yours done? How much did you pay and what's the downtime? How are you liking the result so far?

I read about the Thread Lift.. seems like it has yet gone through long enough time-tested yet?

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Re: Partner In Crime Wanted : )

Postby TheyCallMeHollywood » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 8:30 am

Non-Perfect Perfectionist wrote:QUOTE SIGNATURE FROM TheyCallMeHollywood
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.
Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.



Hi TheyCallMeHollywood,

I read under your signature that you'd done Braces and Thread Lift which are two of which I've been thinking of doing.

Would really appreciate if you could share your experiences and result ratings here of both?

1. I'm already in my mid 30s, really not sure if it's worth the torment and money to do braces still.

2. The Thread Lift, may I know when and where did you have yours done? How much did you pay and what's the downtime? How are you liking the result so far?

I read about the Thread Lift.. seems like it has yet gone through long enough time-tested yet?


Hi Non-Perfect,

I actually did braces TWICE. The first time was when I was 12, and the second time was when I was 27. What happened was no one told me that after you take off your braces 15 years later, you still need to wear your retainer every night preferably to make sure there is no teeth movement. Anyway, I decided to wear braces a second time because my two upper teeth were slightly unaligned and one of my lower tooth was really out of place. So my advice is, if you are going to get it, make sure you wear your retainer continuously forever. This is not as bad as it sounds because you can wear it at home at night while sleeping.
Should you get braces? it depends on how much is affects you? my second set of braces cost me about rm5800.(last year). I know that most dentists accept instalment plans e.g 2k down, and rm200-300 per visit etc . it usually takes a year. My dentist told me that you can speed up treatment by going for appointments every 3 weeks, instead of 4 weeks as is usual.

but I can vouch that having a perfect smile instantly makes you look better and more attractive. And, even though you are in mid 30s, the average woman lives till 70-75 at least, so that's 30 more years! I don't know about you, but personally I want to look as great as possible until i'm 80 ...lol.

Thread lift? now that I'm sort of a PS veteran, I would not have done it. i wanted to lift the corners of my brows ( lateral brow lift) to get that sexy arched brows look. it worked but only for 3-4 months before my eyebrows slowly went back to their normal position!! I was 26 and it was about rm4k. so that's 2008-09 price? I have had experience with 4 other surgeons for other operations and all of them told me that tread lifts no matter what type, would last max 1-2 years at most.

also, I am very expressive so it doesn't help when your muscles move a lot.
So what I should have had was a lateral endoscopic brow lift, instead of the tread lift, that was the surgeons' s advice.

but there are times when thread lifts are appropriate:
1- when you have no time for down time. it takes only 1 hour max, very minimal swelling , and only 1-2 days before you look presentable again. even during the so called downtime if you wear huge sunglasses I think you'd be fine and do everything normally like usual. normal facelifts take min a week of hiding/and 3-4 weeks of few physical activities.
2- when you're not sure about the procedure- thread lifts are reversible, no cutting of skin. if you don't like it remove it. no harm done.
3. it's cheaper than normal face lifts.
4- apparently thread lifts last longer if you use botox, because less muscle movement, less " tugging " on the threads? botox would cost rm500-rm1k every 6 months or so.

if I'd known all this info, I would have saved up to do a proper brow lift
I had my threadlifts done by Dr. Tan of Sunway Hospital, Sunway Malaysia.
I don't blame the surgeon - the tread lift worked flawlessly and I looked great, and his workmanship was v good i could not see any scars or detect them, wished he had told me it would last less than 2 years on average.

anyway, I am not a doctor and everyone's face is different - my advice is go to at least 3 reputable surgeons for consultation before deciding.. each surgeon is different and each have different views on beauty/good results. you're going to spend money on what is usually permanent so prepare/research as much as possible to get good (and safe) results.

good luck ! : )
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.

Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.

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Re: Partner In Crime Wanted : )

Postby Non-Perfect Perfectionist » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:34 am

TheyCallMeHollywood wrote:
Non-Perfect Perfectionist wrote:QUOTE SIGNATURE FROM TheyCallMeHollywood
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.
Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.



Hi TheyCallMeHollywood,

I read under your signature that you'd done Braces and Thread Lift which are two of which I've been thinking of doing.

Would really appreciate if you could share your experiences and result ratings here of both?

1. I'm already in my mid 30s, really not sure if it's worth the torment and money to do braces still.

2. The Thread Lift, may I know when and where did you have yours done? How much did you pay and what's the downtime? How are you liking the result so far?

I read about the Thread Lift.. seems like it has yet gone through long enough time-tested yet?


Hi Non-Perfect,

I actually did braces TWICE. The first time was when I was 12, and the second time was when I was 27. What happened was no one told me that after you take off your braces 15 years later, you still need to wear your retainer every night preferably to make sure there is no teeth movement. Anyway, I decided to wear braces a second time because my two upper teeth were slightly unaligned and one of my lower tooth was really out of place. So my advice is, if you are going to get it, make sure you wear your retainer continuously forever. This is not as bad as it sounds because you can wear it at home at night while sleeping.
Should you get braces? it depends on how much is affects you? my second set of braces cost me about rm5800.(last year). I know that most dentists accept instalment plans e.g 2k down, and rm200-300 per visit etc . it usually takes a year. My dentist told me that you can speed up treatment by going for appointments every 3 weeks, instead of 4 weeks as is usual.

but I can vouch that having a perfect smile instantly makes you look better and more attractive. And, even though you are in mid 30s, the average woman lives till 70-75 at least, so that's 30 more years! I don't know about you, but personally I want to look as great as possible until i'm 80 ...lol.

Thread lift? now that I'm sort of a PS veteran, I would not have done it. i wanted to lift the corners of my brows ( lateral brow lift) to get that sexy arched brows look. it worked but only for 3-4 months before my eyebrows slowly went back to their normal position!! I was 26 and it was about rm4k. so that's 2008-09 price? I have had experience with 4 other surgeons for other operations and all of them told me that tread lifts no matter what type, would last max 1-2 years at most.

also, I am very expressive so it doesn't help when your muscles move a lot.
So what I should have had was a lateral endoscopic brow lift, instead of the tread lift, that was the surgeons' s advice.

but there are times when thread lifts are appropriate:
1- when you have no time for down time. it takes only 1 hour max, very minimal swelling , and only 1-2 days before you look presentable again. even during the so called downtime if you wear huge sunglasses I think you'd be fine and do everything normally like usual. normal facelifts take min a week of hiding/and 3-4 weeks of few physical activities.
2- when you're not sure about the procedure- thread lifts are reversible, no cutting of skin. if you don't like it remove it. no harm done.
3. it's cheaper than normal face lifts.
4- apparently thread lifts last longer if you use botox, because less muscle movement, less " tugging " on the threads? botox would cost rm500-rm1k every 6 months or so.

if I'd known all this info, I would have saved up to do a proper brow lift
I had my threadlifts done by Dr. Tan of Sunway Hospital, Sunway Malaysia.
I don't blame the surgeon - the tread lift worked flawlessly and I looked great, and his workmanship was v good i could not see any scars or detect them, wished he had told me it would last less than 2 years on average.

anyway, I am not a doctor and everyone's face is different - my advice is go to at least 3 reputable surgeons for consultation before deciding.. each surgeon is different and each have different views on beauty/good results. you're going to spend money on what is usually permanent so prepare/research as much as possible to get good (and safe) results.

good luck ! : )




Wow!! I really didn't expect to receive a reply from you this fast!! Really appreciated! Thank you TheyCallMeHollywood~ =D (Esp @ this early morning~ while I was surfing the net for infos since I cldn't get a single blink of rest/sleep due to very severe chronic insomnia )

About the Braces:
I heard throughout the whole time while having the braces on, especially after each adjustment, one would suffers lots of pain including major headache.. Is it true? Did you have to go through that too?

I couldn't agree with you more that having nice set of teeth really enhances one's smile, making one looks more attractive. Heard that even the shape of the one's face would change (in a positive way).

My teeth started getting out of line day by day after I had my 4 wisdom teeth removed about 5 to 6 years ago. This issue's getting worse and worse over the years and now there is even a big gap showing on the lower roll of my teeth! (this has made me stopped grinning as much as I used to be =...( )

Thinking to go for braces for some time now.. but I am worried of having to go through the nagging headache for that long period of time especially during nights when I'm already suffering from severe insomnia wif aches all over my body... not sure how much more pain I can add to take. =( It's also very expensive doing it in Singapore.

Been hoping that some new technology/advance skill for a fast and painless fix would surface, but so far still waiting in vain. =(

About Thread Lift:
I was thinking of getting a Woffles Wu Lift (Thread Lift) by the creator himself- Dr Woffles Wu in Singapore. I read on his website that he charges minimum SGD$6k to $9K and more (excluding aftercare creams and meds) for the whole face lift, depending on the nos. of threads needed. He mentioned in his website that the lifting effect's supposed to last for abt 5 years whereby he compared that to a Full Traditional Face Lift Surgery of abt 7 years effective duration, costing SGD$15 to $17K and more.

Reading from your reply, even for a relatively young skin like yours, the result does not seem as "amazing" as how he'd described it though. =(

I need a lift from my chin/jaw area upwards. Making me look sad, tired and older than actual. (Even though in actual fact I really feel drained, I still wish to look good at least)

Anyway, the sagging problem is getting worse as my age catches up. Till date, I have not found a facial cream that's effective. I'd also tried IPL and those UltraSound/ Therma Light treatments (can't remember actual names) couple of years back. All just but big waste of money! =(

I had Botox done myself.. but I'm giving up as it's extremely expensive to maintain long termed especially here in Singapore. And to me, Botox did not give me any lift, just helped in reducing my forehead frown-lines/muscle. (Actually what gotten me to Botox procedure initially was the nagging headache that's tormenting me 24/7. I must say that Botox really did help ease that. Unfortunately, as the Botox effect slowly wears off, the headache is also coming back.)

Do you know of anyone who had done traditional full facelift surgery before?

By the way.. you're also going for BA as in Breast Augmentation? When? Have you decided on the surgeons yet?

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Postby TheyCallMeHollywood » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 6:54 pm

hi Non Perfect,

to answer your questions:

braces:
from my experience ( my 3 siblings and most friends) have done braces and no one suffered during braces. when you first put it on you will feel soreness and tenderness because of pressure to teeth. it lasts 2-5 days on average usually, but is quite tolerable. no one I know was in pain/had headaches while wearing braces :) the soreness for first 1-2 days can easily be forgotten with mild painkillers you can request from the dentist- I never needed any, but my dentist offered.
you said your teeth moved- in that case it will actually get worse, and yes how your teeth is would effect your face structure/ profile. btw, I heard this from my dentist - if your teeth have large gaps in between it would be weaker because no support from other teeth from its sides, so more risk of teeth falling out as you become older.

thread lift/sagging skin:
dr.woffles is super expensive and he is the only surgeon I know who charges extra for follow ups, and I have been to top surgeons in Beverly Hills as well.
there are many types of thread lifts and I think mine is different from yours- I had a minor op of just 4 threads to lift corner of brows. some people need more threads. again, results can be amazing but how long would it last is the real question.
sometimes sagging is also due to loss of volume- have you gone to other surgeons for consultation? ask alternatives- like maybe it's loss of volume so cheek implants can also work.

I also hope the tips below can help you more, esp saving money:
1.I too have done many treatments but my tip is never do-non medical treatments in beauty salons, they do not work. go to a good dermatologist, better chance of good results as they have medical grade(stronger machines that beauticians don't have access to).
2. beauty products - most of the time don't bother buying expensive creams, they hardly work. drugstore products can be just as good. go to beautypedia.com for more info on what products work and which doesn't.
3. getting more value - for braces and surgeries, going to Malaysia/Thailand would save you lots of money. JB is just across the border - why don't you do your braces in JB? my mom is from Singapore and my cousins there did their braces in JB. Some Kl surgeons/dermatologists are also world class.

i live in Los Angeles and I am in the beauty industry , but I can tell you Malaysian/Thai standards are very good- you just need to do your homework
and choose carefully and don't be drastic. like I don't get more than 3 procedures done at a single time and be conservative in changes. think refinement, not reconstruction

I am set to do my breast aug. with most probably dr.chitawut in hat yai this august. I lost 11kgs from good exercise/diet changes (I'm 169 cm and used to weigh 62kgs, now 51kgs) and my boobs have deflated..lol, so looking to get that volume back.
Done:braces, rhino,brow lift,buccal fat, thread lift and more injections, lasers and peels than I care to remember.

Soon: forehead aug., 2nd rhino, breast aug. and gummy smile correction, cheek impls.

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Postby Non-Perfect Perfectionist » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 8:46 pm

Hihi TheyCallMeHollywood~ ^^

I really really appreciated such detailed reply you've written me! You've been really kind! =D

and OMG! Lost 11kgs just by exercising/diet?! How long did it take you to shake those kgs off? I'm really impressed with your determination!

You seem very much a person whom knows very well what you want in life and go all your way to accomplish each and every one of them. I salute u~!

I have been trying to lose weight (need to shake off at least 6kgs) but nothing at all seem to work for me so far~ =( Very demoralising..


About Braces:
Gosh.. I'd better get mine done soon. I know nothing much but I'm sure it'd definitely be much better to still have my real teeth intact! Does your family know of any good dentist in JB to recommend?

Thread Lift:
Yea.. Dr Woffles Wu really does tagged his services with very high prices. He's like a celebrity plastic surgeon here in Singapore.

Thank you for your advises, I'd definitely do up more research and seek more opinions from different dermatologists and plastic surgeons.

Also thank you for the link to more informations on beauty products! =D

Read earlier you intended to travel to Thailand to have your PS done during the first two weeks of August. That's pretty near soon. I wish all turn out PERFECT for you! =D

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Postby terrie35 » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:29 pm

Hi, Theycallme Hollywood,

Hey, I am in LA now. Since you have rhino done, what is your advice for someone who has the silastic implant removed for fear of infection (the tip is left untouched)? Should a second rhino op be considered or leave it as it is?

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Postby tinkerbell88 » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46 am

Dear Non-Perfect Perfectionist,
if you want to have a thread-lift done, I hear that the Silhouette threadlift is probably the best in town. My god ma had that done here in Singapore. I think the docs here are pretty good and it cost her about $6k. According to her she said it would last 2 years or more, and it certainly lifted her jawline and cheeks, and gave her a more youthful look. One lady doc and several male docs perform this according to her and google. I think only a handful are certified and trained to do this here in Singapore, and I am always a firm believer that we should stick to our local docs, as their standards are second to none, and jet-setting around the globe for future check-ups is such a hassle. Hope this helps. I can find out more from her if you like. Good luck in your quest! :)
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Postby Non-Perfect Perfectionist » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 9:28 pm

Hi tinkerbell88,

Thanks for sharing. ^^

When did your god ma did hers?

After googling, it seem to me that Silhouette Threadlift isn't very much different from Woffles's Threadlift yea? If it's in SGD your god ma'd paid, then it's about the same price Woffles's charging (according to his website).

I have not made any trip to seek advises and opinions from any Plastic Surgeon yet, but I've been "researching" online, reading reviews after reviews etc. For many, Threadlift seems to really help give a good lifting, with very short downtime. But the effective duration for most only lasted less than a year (some as short as weeks!).

I'm really looking for a procedure with result that would last at least 4 to 5 years especially with that kinda pricing... :roll:

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Postby tinkerbell88 » Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:50 am

Dear Non-Perfect Perfectionist,
I just PM- ed you with my thoughts on this one.
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Postby Non-Perfect Perfectionist » Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:16 pm

tinkerbell88 wrote:Dear Non-Perfect Perfectionist,
I just PM- ed you with my thoughts on this one.



Dear tinkbell88, thank you for your PM! But I cldn't reply via PM as I'm still a newbie (haven't got enough postings yet) =(

In your PM you'd mentioned about Botox.. so your godma still has to go for regular Botox "maintenance" having done STL? (it's just as TheyCallMeHollywood'd mentioned)

If so, it's bad.. I mean, it's really too expensive to go for regular Botox (at least every 6 to 8 months, each session minimum SGD$1k!) :( I can't keep up with that... :cry:


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