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Postby RyanHsia » Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:41 am

Hi people, today I went for the consulation with Dr Andrew Khoo,he said that 19 years old is not eligible for any of the plastic surgery.....and my 130 dollars are gone for nothing.....
so please take note that , do not go for a consulatuon/plastic surgery if you are not above 21 years old.

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Postby Andrya » Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:01 pm

I'm 28 and have always looked young for my age. Last year I went through a very traumatic, stressful event that created a lot of furrowed forehead wrinkles that look unnatural for my age and the rest of my body. I want to get them removed using cosmetic surgery, lazer surgery, botox or something of the sort. What would work best?

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Dr Jung Korea

Postby jswagger » Thu, 24 Jun 2010 8:07 pm

Hi
I've been a long time reader of this forum and was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with Dr Jung? I'm from the US and I plan on going to Korea sometime in August for a revision. Will anyone else be headed to Korea?

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Lets research

Postby zane80 » Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:52 pm

Lets go thailand to do, any khakis?

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Postby JJ Lyn » Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:51 pm

[quote="xerox"]I just came back from my blepharoplasty surgery with Dr Danny Oh in Penang, Malaysia. If anybody is interested with how my eyes look like now (on 8th day), I'd post the pictures later. Basically what I did was fat graft from groin area (as I have hollow lids, I need some fat grafting to make it fuller), muscle levator and epicanthoplasty.

I'm thinking to do my nose with him again in August. I've booked with Dr Nara as well, but going through all the comments, I think most probably I'd stick with Dr Oh. My tip is a bit fleshy and I believe I'd need alarplasty to be done as well. Does anybody know what "medical grade" silicon implant means? I asked Dr Oh and he only replied me that.[/quote]

hi, i m interested to c ur eye done wif danny oh..can send me to my email??i m reali sincerly n i done sme research abt dr danny oh alots gd reviews abt him , better nt to go do ur nose wif nara ...i gt frend done it before wif nara result nt gd , n regret of looking cheap...i can share wif u ...my email pinkbellezz@gmail.com hear frm u soon...sincerly n thks

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Postby cherryjan » Thu, 08 Jul 2010 1:06 pm

JJ Lyn wrote:
xerox wrote:I just came back from my blepharoplasty surgery with Dr Danny Oh in Penang, Malaysia. If anybody is interested with how my eyes look like now (on 8th day), I'd post the pictures later. Basically what I did was fat graft from groin area (as I have hollow lids, I need some fat grafting to make it fuller), muscle levator and epicanthoplasty.

I'm thinking to do my nose with him again in August. I've booked with Dr Nara as well, but going through all the comments, I think most probably I'd stick with Dr Oh. My tip is a bit fleshy and I believe I'd need alarplasty to be done as well. Does anybody know what "medical grade" silicon implant means? I asked Dr Oh and he only replied me that.


hi, i m interested to c ur eye done wif danny oh..can send me to my email??i m reali sincerly n i done sme research abt dr danny oh alots gd reviews abt him , better nt to go do ur nose wif nara ...i gt frend done it before wif nara result nt gd , n regret of looking cheap...i can share wif u ...my email pinkbellezz@gmail.com hear frm u soon...sincerly n thks


Hi gals,
Dr Nara really no good??? Me and my gf is seeing him for BA in late OCT. we hav already book ticket, hotel and appointment time.... Anything u'll can share...

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Postby ren-baby » Wed, 14 Jul 2010 4:29 pm

hi all, i'm kinda new here.

am going to Teuim Clinic to do several surgeries (hopefully i save up enough by end of this year)


The doctors suggested me doing the following after seeing my pictures:

1. Epicantoplasty
2. Rhinoplasty plus tip plasty
3. Forehead reduction
4. Full Face Fat Grafting


Personally, i thought the doctors were very polite despite my endless questions. Dr Kwon will be the one doing my eyelids as for the rest, two other doctors will be doing.

I did received replies from Bk Dongyang clinic as well as Migo clinic but i chose Teuim Clinic as Dr Kwon is well known for doing the best eyelid job in korea. And also i can see that Bk dongyang's reply was writen in a rush, its like they havent even taken a thorough look at my picture. Migo clinic is fine though

now i shall be off to bug my mum to sponsor me for the surgeries!!

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Postby plasticgirl » Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:08 am

Hey!

I think u better think twice about doing so many surgeries. Unless your face is deformed, there really isn't a need for plastic surgery. Nothing a surgeon can do is going to look as natural as nature has given u. We see all these hype on tv etc...but in reality, botched jobs are many.

Dr Kwon is good for eyes. But I think u should practice this in the mirror. Try simulating the effects of epi by pulling the skin in between ur eyes towards the nose and imagine a huge double eyelid there. If u like it, fine. For Asian faces, it tends to caucasianise one's appearance and make u look older/fiercer. I know many girls/boys here want to look caucasian but really, caucasians' features are not as delicate and refine as asian features. And beauty is subjective. Korean doctors tend to have a complex about their East Asianness and seem to want to westernise everyone they see. So do think about that... that's their ideal beauty (which is really weird... case in point, see Solbi's before and after pics.. most korean surgeons would take their measurements (which is based on cacucasian's features) and say her after is better. But we know her before is definitely prettier. FYI, she had epi and a nose job.).

Fat grafting to the face is a very risky procedure. It has not been very much perfected and many people have suffered bad effects like unbalanced grafting and hard, calcified lumps forming which are not reversible.

I have never heard of forehead reduction. But it's a prominent part of ur skull with many nerves/blood vessels, skin and muscle attachement etc... I will seriously advice against it.

U sound young. Why not learn to love your looks, play with make-up etc instead of wanting to undergo so many drastic procedures at once? The more procedures, the more risks... the more chances for regrets.

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Postby boii18 » Thu, 15 Jul 2010 5:35 pm

ren-baby wrote:hi all, i'm kinda new here.

am going to Teuim Clinic to do several surgeries (hopefully i save up enough by end of this year)


The doctors suggested me doing the following after seeing my pictures:

1. Epicantoplasty
2. Rhinoplasty plus tip plasty
3. Forehead reduction
4. Full Face Fat Grafting


Personally, i thought the doctors were very polite despite my endless questions. Dr Kwon will be the one doing my eyelids as for the rest, two other doctors will be doing.

I did received replies from Bk Dongyang clinic as well as Migo clinic but i chose Teuim Clinic as Dr Kwon is well known for doing the best eyelid job in korea. And also i can see that Bk dongyang's reply was writen in a rush, its like they havent even taken a thorough look at my picture. Migo clinic is fine though

now i shall be off to bug my mum to sponsor me for the surgeries!!


hi, please know that surgery carries risk. and all patients shd be informed of all possible risks prior to surgery..

i went to teiumps and he does seem like a businessman. please refer to my thread on korean ps revision blepharoplasty consultations.

please know that epicanthoplasty must be done minimally and sometimes doctors do not deliver what they promise. i.e. you ask for 0.5 mm and they give 2mm or 3 mm.

plasticgirl, forehead reduction is the reduction of the orbital bone and the inferior part of the frontal bone ( i.e. the forehead bossing ). hope that helps.

why not try forehead reduction in thailand? they do many cases since they specialise in FFS. be careful of possible loss of motor nerves if they are not carefully visualised in the operative field.

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Postby beautyopt » Fri, 16 Jul 2010 8:02 pm

who wanna join me to korea for plastic surgery end of Aug this year? we can share for accomodation fees. =)

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Postby jswagger » Sat, 17 Jul 2010 3:52 am

beautyopt wrote:who wanna join me to korea for plastic surgery end of Aug this year? we can share for accomodation fees. =)


Hi beautyopt, I got your message but I haven't posted enough to be able to send pm. Did you already schedule everything? Which dr did u choose?

I bought a plane ticket for September 6-14, as it was cheaper than the august flights. Would u consider september, or are you already set for late august?

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Re: korea

Postby RudeBoy » Sat, 17 Jul 2010 8:14 pm

jswagger wrote:
beautyopt wrote:who wanna join me to korea for plastic surgery end of Aug this year? we can share for accomodation fees. =)


Hi beautyopt, I got your message but I haven't posted enough to be able to send pm. Did you already schedule everything? Which dr did u choose?

I bought a plane ticket for September 6-14, as it was cheaper than the august flights. Would u consider september, or are you already set for late august?


I'm interested, getting Rhino by Dr Kim of Bk dongyang. I bought plane tickets for Sept 16 - 30. Which doctor are you thinking of going? We could meet up. (going alone here)

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Postby jswagger » Tue, 20 Jul 2010 1:36 pm

It looks like we're gonna miss each other by two days. I'm leaving the 14th and you're arriving on the 16th. It would've been cool if our trips we're on similar dates. I'm thinking about dr jung at the moment.... might consider dr lee of banobagi also. But since revisions are jung's specialty, i think he might be the safer option. I saw BK's work, and they have good photos.... but unfortunately i heard the aftercare isn't that good and that it operates like an assembly line. Do you have other dr's in mind?

I'm going in for an alar base reduction, tip lengthening and maybe a slight bridge augmentation.what exactly do you need done on your nose?

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Postby kalyn » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 2:13 pm

Hi guys..

I've naturally big eyes with double eyelids but I'd like to have anime eyes like angelababy or dawnyang. I wanna do them in Singapore... are there any doctors that specializes in eye surgeries?

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My plastic surgery experience in Seoul, Korea

Postby plasticgirl » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 7:41 pm

Hi! I went to Ozclinic to do my eyes and nose. It's been more than 7 months.

Maybe I am an anomaly but I am not happy at all with the outcome of my surgeries.

1) Eyelids cut too high and round, so look damn high when eyes are half-closed.

2) I don't think I have ptosis. Surgeon also said repeatedly before surgery that I do not have ptosis. Anyhow, ptosis correction surgery was done without my consent during the operation (no charge, though). I have been told by other surgeons now that the numbing injection could affect eyelid lifting muscle so ptosis found during surgery should be left alone as it could be due that and would be temporary. Anyhow, the surgery was a failure, my left eye is droopier than before, there's a constant tugging/ pressure sensation and it actually hurts.

3) Eyelids still swollen.

4) Epicanthoplasty done on the surgeon's advice made me lose a lot of the oriental uniqueness and made my eyes look older and fiercer. There is also scarring on the left eye which is different to the scarring on the right. Does not resemble any magic epicanthoplasty scars I have seen (mine was the magic epi method).

5) Nostrils alars look too cut-out. Alars seemed to end abruptly on the cheek (especially on left side), lost a lot of the curve, some evidence of alar flattening and looks cut-out in general. Over resected alars and the way he inserted the alars also make the tip looks droopier than before.

6) No pre-operative eye function tests were performed (so the ptosis thing is still a "mystery" but surgeons looking at my pre-op photos all said I did not have evidence of ptosis on left eye). Did not ask anything about medical history/ medications/ smoking etc. which can affect the outcome of the surgeries, scarring and even preclude you from the surgery. I think it is a bit negligent.

7) Discrepancies between observable measurements and what the surgeon reported he had done. a) Eyelids measured at 8-9mm (surgeon reported did only 6-7mm), b) Scar for eyelids is like one long line (like full incision) (surgeon did partial incision), c) epi scarring on left is hypertrophic and not hidden in cilia line like the right eye and unlike any other magic epi I have seen (surgeon reported he did magic epi on left eye). d) Epi measured at 2mm for left and between 1 to 2mm for right eye (Surgeon reported doing less than 1mm). Surgeon offered no satisfactorily answers to such discrepancies.


I don't want to recommend or not recommend my surgeon as I feel that one has to pick their own surgeons and beauty is subjective. There are reviews on the internet by girls who are very happy with their surgeries with him and sung his praises. My experience is, sadly, completely different.

Oh, the only comments I got from friends are "look much older/sleepy leh!" and "Looks okay lah... before better but okay lah..."(you know it's not okay when they scrounge their faces).
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General note about going to Korea for PS:

So for those going to Seoul to do their surgeries, please be careful. A korean friend told me that a lot Korean plastic surgeons are not honest in their replies or hide risks/ bad effects because it's so competitive. In my consultations, i also feel like a lot of them have a god-complex and think they can do magic or fix everything. In addition, a lot of them are so obsess with the epi fold, that if you even have a little bit of epi they think you need epicanthoplasty... which smells like an ethnic-complex to me. Orientals with epicanthic folds and single-lids or small lids are very appealing. Also, a lot of them use ratios/ measurements etc. which are applicable to caucasians but not to oriental beauty. remember: perfect ratios/ measurements just means you have a manmade and decided "perfect" ratio on your face. It doesn't mean you are beautiful or appealing (means boring, actually). They also use these measurements to give advice and does not take into consideration the unique beauty of each person's face.

Also, if you notice, on a lot of Korean before and after websites, the before is always like no make-up but the after is wow because of make-up. I was thinking of revising my eyelids lower and was really impressed with a clinic's before and after. However, I realise that the surgeons did not lower the eyelids as much as they fixed underlying ptosis (so it looks like eyelids is lower as the eye opens wider) and make their clients wear eyeliner in the after shots (thus giving an illusion of a smaller fold compared to a non-eyelined before).



That's all I gotta say. I wish I had done it with a surgeon who actually respect the Asian beauty. So right now, I am not even going to consider Asian surgeons who perform Asian surgery with only pictures of Caucasians on their website or weird altered Asians-Caucasians (Asians who get lots of surgery to look Caucasians and only ended looking really weird) on their websites. To me now, it reeks of a complex about your own ethnicity.


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