Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

jynn · Post by **jynn** » Fri, 30 May 2008 12:47 am

Dr. Woffles Wu or Dr Martin Huang is better?.. hmm.. which one is more worth the price?
Hows the price range?

DMN · Post by **DMN** » Fri, 30 May 2008 4:34 am

tanjhj wrote: rib bones from nose can still warp within 1st year, usually. if not lesser chance of warping after that. another problem is huge self absortion faced by some ppl only. every surgery and procedures has risk involved it depends on the self, luck and also the skill of the doctors

i think can check dr jung website about his stuides on rib bone rhinoplasty

Warping of costal cartilage - autologous cartilage
http://www.nose.co.kr/english/know/read ... LangType=1
occur
Keloids from harvesting bone for rhino?
http://www.nose.co.kr/english/know/read ... LangType=1

Hi!

Where did you research tt warping can occur within a year? Iwas thinking what you wrote may be valid on warping chances - as in this 1 year term....

I went thru Dr. Jung's site and those cases you posted, none said the year term. The example above is warping within 3 weeks.

Then I search high and low in the internet. Like most papers I read including this by David W. Kim, MD; Anil R. Shah, MD; Dean M. Toriumi, MD - NONE specify term of warping.
http://archfaci.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/8/1/42

Tho this paper is only one repeatedly mentioning weeks NOT months ler.... Thus, please advise where did this 1 year term come from. THANKS!

BTW, Keloid also develop within weeks not months.

I am just trying to clear my worries cos am too busy to go for any revision. Plus, I really like my nose now within one week from my op with Dr. Hsu! Gross to say, but...it is a better 'model'.

Thanks lots.

++++

To others going to Dr. Hsu,

Please can you go to those pages where Hello84 (how are you?), La Vie En Rose and myself describe our experiences? Been getting quite a few PMs and they are all same qns. We clearly gave guides on how to get there, hotels, and food. Also, Dr. Hsu is another source for yr prep.

My 2 Rhino experience tells me - if I am prepared to do Rhino in foreign lands...then a little research does no harm to find the best comfort for myself, esp for immediate post-operative days. For me, it is abt taking ownership of the Risk & Rewards.

Good Luck! Dun worry, you will be in good hands.

cheers,
DMN

Shiyun777 · Post by **Shiyun777** » Fri, 30 May 2008 11:42 am

Both Dr. Huang and Dr. Wu are very sensitive to woman's concern with aesthetic appeal.

Both are highly good in aesthetic skills and have an eye for perfection.
I had surgery done by both. And was please with the results.

However, it didn't occur to me in the early stage that PS/CS is bound to have revisions, revisions are very common in any procedure to accomodate to the changing contour and ageing body. You can't say once a procedure is done, and it's case closed, that everything had been done correctly when the fact is - the body is always growing and changing day by day, few years down the road, there will be significant changes.

Any implants, fillers be it naturally or artificial will not remain/stay the way it is when it's just inserted, there will be slight or much changes with time and body reaction.

I was reacting rather emotional initially as I thought it's a waste of my time having to go through revisions again since I thought procedure should be irrevisible. Once done, no more changes.

It was Dr. Wu who helped me with the revision and I was very satisfied and happy at the results. Despite many people ranting badly about Dr.W.W and his service , I think it could start with a small misunderstanding which turned complicated/grave due to communication barrier or perhaps just a mindset distortion, or immaturity at work.

I can see that both doctors are very busy individuals and if one request for surgery with anyone of them, they should not grudge over minor details like who's with attitudes, who's not attentive enough, who should not be doing this and that, etc ...I still think it's their skills which we seek , which will make the difference not so much of the rest and we have to understand Doctors are also human, they would feel tired with so many cases they are taking up, however, I believe they will still try their best to deliver the results.

With PS/CS approach, patients need to develop a realistic mindset that every individual body responses will vary indefinitely, to some, the same skill applied can yield a good result, but to another, it may spell not as nice. Your existing features and body mechanics really comes into consideration with any procedures. Of course, praying to God helps a little for those who have a religion. Yet, I've always maintain the idea that it's not the will of God for any human to alter their appearances for cosmetic reasons. But this is another subject which I won't discuss in such forum board.

I've always been at struggle with to do more to myself , surgeries and enhancement, I agree it can be an addiction for mainly woman. Insatiable lust for acceptance from mainly man, and aesthetic appeal among other naturally/artificially beautiful woman in the society.

Perhaps I should end my surgeries episode here, talking more than I should .... Yuppp, both Dr. M. Huang and Dr W.W are skillful doctors who yield good results and are also celebrity surgeons. YEa,,,,, ANDDDDDD not to forget, Dr. Kim Byung Gung is coming to Sg rite ????

When Dr. Kim set up his clinic in the heart of Sg, I think it will add to another boom to the PS/CS industry and many others among myself will have to fight this temptation of not doing anything to ourselves again.

Shiyun777 · Post by **Shiyun777** » Sat, 31 May 2008 1:12 am

Should a man go for plastic surgery ?

I tend to find some man who cut their eyes and done nose looking overly artificial.

victorie · Post by **victorie** » Sat, 31 May 2008 10:14 pm

Hi,
i'm actually heading to Dr Chuang's clinic early next year for rhinoplasty, lip reduction and eyelids. Wondering if anyone's heading there too or interested to journey together? (:
pls pm me!

chubbycasper · Post by **chubbycasper** » Sun, 01 Jun 2008 3:40 am

Hi appletree,

I'm planning to go see both dr chuang (for eyes & chin) and dr hsu (for nose) in mid sep too. Would be good if we can meet in kaohsiung

How can I contact you? My email add is [email protected]

appletree wrote:Hi all,

im seeking a parther to go see Dr Hsu with me in kaoshiung, anyone interested?

I shall be leaving in mid of september.

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appletree · Post by **appletree** » Sun, 01 Jun 2008 2:35 pm

Hi all,

just to share.. i found this online, that not all moles are harmful =p

Mole Reading on the Face
(From the Chinese Art of "Mian Xiang")

http://www.marthatierney.com/A_moles.htm

So im wondering, di we have to remove moles on the body too?

ellin18 wrote:Hi DMN,

I die liao.. I have so many moles/mark on my face and chest area.

Ear area - 3 moles (1left, 2 right)

Middle of my nose bridge in between eyes - 1 mole

Cheek area near chin - 2 moles (1 right, 1 left)

Eyebrow area - 1 mole (right side)

Wow!! like that i really die liao.... sigh...

Oh ya!! forgot one more on my forehead!

appletree · Post by **appletree** » Sun, 01 Jun 2008 3:53 pm

chubbycasper wrote:Hi appletree,

I'm planning to go see both dr chuang (for eyes & chin) and dr hsu (for nose) in mid sep too. Would be good if we can meet in kaohsiung

How can I contact you? My email add is [email protected]

appletree wrote:Hi all,

im seeking a parther to go see Dr Hsu with me in kaoshiung, anyone interested?

I shall be leaving in mid of september.
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Hi chubbycasper,

there's a slight chance in my trip planning. Shall pm you soon

Thanks for the reply

appletree · Post by **appletree** » Sun, 01 Jun 2008 4:06 pm

DMN wrote:Keenose: for beginners and easy to read go and buy Joey Yap's book. For advance, go and buy this Chinese book call Ma Yi Shen Xiang. But your proficiency of Chinese must be good, otherwise the book is just some kind of pictorial book. However, the pictorial is not accurate.

ellin18: Only face impt lah. Other areas dun bother. But you remind me of a good point.

Sorry, people, ONE OTHER AREA CAN HAVE MOLE - on top of eye brow BUT MUST BE SHOWING. Check out celebrities like Stefanie Sun, Fann Wong, Zoe Tay, Michelle Reis etc. Purpose? obviously - fame!

cheers,

Hi DMN and people,

any recommdation that does mole removals in terms of mian xiang and doesnt leave a scar ? How much does one mole removal cost?

Thanks thanks

babyangel · Post by **babyangel** » Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:05 pm

Hi DMN,

i rbr you mentioned that when u were in Kaohshiung, you stayed in this King's Town hotel. I saw the map n it seems to be quite a distance fm Golf Hotel or the hospital. May i check approx. how long did it take for you to travel fm this hotel to the Hospital to see Dr Hsu and to the airport?

Do you know if there is any hotel very near to the Sogo Dept store? I checked alot of Kaohshiung hotels but dun seem to be able to find it or rather the street names got me quite confused.

Thanks.

mbk · Post by **mbk** » Tue, 03 Jun 2008 9:49 pm

jynn wrote:Dr. Woffles Wu or Dr Martin Huang is better?.. hmm.. which one is more worth the price?
Hows the price range?

Just giving you my opinion from my very long and expensive consultatiion with both these doctors.

Dr. W is much cheaper than Dr. MH. Dr. MH had very nice before and after pics compared to Dr. WW. Dr. MH was VERY professional and teachnical during his consultation and explained with diagrams etc.(altho the consultation was very $$$ you do get what is possble and what is not from what you have). Both are busy doctors but I was interrupted several times at dr. WW's office and zero times with dr. MH. Oh, one thing I found very annoying is Dr. MH's secretary or whoever is quite unfriendly to the point of being arrogant.

In my opinion, if I had the money I will choose Dr. MH.

Having said all this try and have cosultations with both and choose the doctor that you are most comfortable and confident in.......good luck!

hello84 · Post by **hello84** » Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:19 am

Dear Everyone

Hello DMC I am fine how about you... the experience on me about the ear cartilage is fine... about wraping and scar none occur on me... absorption.. frankly speaking there is some absorption mean my nose compare to first 3 mth the high had decrease some but it still taller than before... anyway what i think is tat using ear cartilage for nose is more suitable for ladies because ladies need not those nose that are really tall and define, ear cartilage is soft and very natural.If ladies nose is too strong it will look mature. ladies should look sweet and cute. For guy i recommend rib becosz man need a strong nose that can fix well with other feature. anyway i am prepare to change to rib by dr hsu around next year and he had agreed:). i intend to change it not because my current nose is not nice is because i want a more define nose..Anyway for those who is waiting for Dr hsu for surgery i am sure you are in good hand he is a very nice guy. don;t be stress over wrapping and scar. If you choose him as your doctor you must trust him:) good luck

Sincerely

Hello84

DMN wrote:
tanjhj wrote: rib bones from nose can still warp within 1st year, usually. if not lesser chance of warping after that. another problem is huge self absortion faced by some ppl only. every surgery and procedures has risk involved it depends on the self, luck and also the skill of the doctors

i think can check dr jung website about his stuides on rib bone rhinoplasty

Warping of costal cartilage - autologous cartilage
http://www.nose.co.kr/english/know/read ... LangType=1
occur
Keloids from harvesting bone for rhino?
http://www.nose.co.kr/english/know/read ... LangType=1

Hi!

Where did you research tt warping can occur within a year? Iwas thinking what you wrote may be valid on warping chances - as in this 1 year term....

I went thru Dr. Jung's site and those cases you posted, none said the year term. The example above is warping within 3 weeks.

Then I search high and low in the internet. Like most papers I read including this by David W. Kim, MD; Anil R. Shah, MD; Dean M. Toriumi, MD - NONE specify term of warping.
http://archfaci.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/8/1/42

Tho this paper is only one repeatedly mentioning weeks NOT months ler.... Thus, please advise where did this 1 year term come from. THANKS!

BTW, Keloid also develop within weeks not months.

I am just trying to clear my worries cos am too busy to go for any revision. Plus, I really like my nose now within one week from my op with Dr. Hsu! Gross to say, but...it is a better 'model'.

Thanks lots.

++++

To others going to Dr. Hsu,

Please can you go to those pages where Hello84 (how are you?), La Vie En Rose and myself describe our experiences? Been getting quite a few PMs and they are all same qns. We clearly gave guides on how to get there, hotels, and food. Also, Dr. Hsu is another source for yr prep.

My 2 Rhino experience tells me - if I am prepared to do Rhino in foreign lands...then a little research does no harm to find the best comfort for myself, esp for immediate post-operative days. For me, it is abt taking ownership of the Risk & Rewards.

Good Luck! Dun worry, you will be in good hands.

cheers,
DMN

mintgirl · Post by **mintgirl** » Thu, 05 Jun 2008 6:59 pm

hey hello84 ^
did Dr Hsu say that if there was the case of warping, will he be willing to do a revision for free or for a heavily reduced price?

hello84 · Post by **hello84** » Thu, 05 Jun 2008 9:20 pm

i am not sure mintgirl.. you must confirm with dr hsu.. i think must depend on sititutation i must say.

Sincerely

feline.eyes · Post by **feline.eyes** » Thu, 05 Jun 2008 9:28 pm

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