Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[appletree]

I don't know whether to go to dr hsu or dr chuang
I was originally planning to use goretex for my rhino, but then after hearing about rib cartilage I was like ' hmmm...that sounds like the safer option'
but now???!! After emailing dr chuang, he said this about using rib cartilage
'I did a lot of total rib rhinoplasty in the past. However the side effect and complication make me unlike to do this operation. There will be possible warpping issue anytime after operation so you will always worry about your nose. Once the issue is appeared it is not fixable all the time. Besides the chest wall scar is another issue especially you would like to do breast augmentation. We charge___ including general anaesthesia for this surgery.'


ahhh!! I dunno what to do...do you guys think it's better to use rib or what? I don't want it to warp =/

Hi mintgirl and 'old' friends from the forums!

I m in Hong Kong on biz so will only 'try' my best to upload my photos when I can get decent pics taken of my nose and my scar from rib cartilage rhino. (Still an idiot in tis department........... )

This 21st, it will be 5 months since my op with Dr. Hsu with rib cartilage. I can tell you for sure my nose is not warping and nurses/staff of my face aesthetic doc can tell you the same. Understand tt if it hasnt warped, it will not warp from now on....

Also, many who hv not seen me for a while hv no idea why my face has 'slimmed' down and stands out better. I guess this is what I wld term 'natural' for ppl like us who sort Rhinoplasty. Just my personal opinion - the doc you named has some upward rotated nose in his site which in person wld be 'un-natural'. This is also a common sight of some forummers who went to that money-grabbing doc in Korea aided by those ultra-friendly super-service commission-taking brokers in denial.

As for the scar, it has shrunk to about 1.25 inch. I did not do much 'maintenance' nor any laser treatment on it. Still reddish tho subsided. Can be further reduced with cream according to my doc who does regular laser for me. Personally, having gone thru a Goretex transplant, this is a small price to pay for long term nose structure stability. In fact, it is not even a 'price' to pay cos I dun 'wear' my chest on my face everyday or need to wear bikinis to impress.... hahaha...

My 2 cents worth: Am not a doc who speaks about expertise - which I do not know better.....I am just a patient who knows for sure I will have NO foreign implant worries in months or years down the road.

Measure your threhold carefully and reduce your risks/regrets! Gd luck!

cheers,
DMN

Hi DMC,

thanks for the assurances . I emailed dr hsu about this issue mentioned by another doc, somehow i hope he's not angry...anyway just wanted to seek his opinion on this wraping issue.
He did mentioned about you so i guess he still remembers you.

[babyangel]

Hi DMN,

Cud i check with you - did Dr Hsu use the Open Method or the Closed method to do your nose? Open method as in he cut a line @ the Middle Bottom of the Nose (called the Columella) which is b/w the nostrils n he flips open the skin n do the rhinoplasty. If so, do you hv a Scar at that part i.e. the Middle Bottom of the Nose (columella)? Cos i am planning to see him n i worry if one gets a nice nose but hv an awful scar at the columella, then it may spoil the looks since the original intention to do the nose is to hv a Nice Nose.

DId the rib he use shift in any way? Such as when you push it or anything, can the Rib Cartlage move?

How much did it take for your Swell to subside?

hear fm you soon.

Cheers.

I don't know whether to go to dr hsu or dr chuang
I was originally planning to use goretex for my rhino, but then after hearing about rib cartilage I was like ' hmmm...that sounds like the safer option'
but now???!! After emailing dr chuang, he said this about using rib cartilage
'I did a lot of total rib rhinoplasty in the past. However the side effect and complication make me unlike to do this operation. There will be possible warpping issue anytime after operation so you will always worry about your nose. Once the issue is appeared it is not fixable all the time. Besides the chest wall scar is another issue especially you would like to do breast augmentation. We charge___ including general anaesthesia for this surgery.'

ahhh!! I dunno what to do...do you guys think it's better to use rib or what? I don't want it to warp =/

Hi mintgirl and 'old' friends from the forums!

I m in Hong Kong on biz so will only 'try' my best to upload my photos when I can get decent pics taken of my nose and my scar from rib cartilage rhino. (Still an idiot in tis department........... )

This 21st, it will be 5 months since my op with Dr. Hsu with rib cartilage. I can tell you for sure my nose is not warping and nurses/staff of my face aesthetic doc can tell you the same. Understand tt if it hasnt warped, it will not warp from now on....

Also, many who hv not seen me for a while hv no idea why my face has 'slimmed' down and stands out better. I guess this is what I wld term 'natural' for ppl like us who sort Rhinoplasty. Just my personal opinion - the doc you named has some upward rotated nose in his site which in person wld be 'un-natural'. This is also a common sight of some forummers who went to that money-grabbing doc in Korea aided by those ultra-friendly super-service commission-taking brokers in denial.

As for the scar, it has shrunk to about 1.25 inch. I did not do much 'maintenance' nor any laser treatment on it. Still reddish tho subsided. Can be further reduced with cream according to my doc who does regular laser for me. Personally, having gone thru a Goretex transplant, this is a small price to pay for long term nose structure stability. In fact, it is not even a 'price' to pay cos I dun 'wear' my chest on my face everyday or need to wear bikinis to impress.... hahaha...

My 2 cents worth: Am not a doc who speaks about expertise - which I do not know better.....I am just a patient who knows for sure I will have NO foreign implant worries in months or years down the road.

Measure your threhold carefully and reduce your risks/regrets! Gd luck!

cheers,
DMN

[Shiyun777]

Hi,
i'm looking for cupid^and^starz, aadvark or Shiyun (if you're still around /: )
if either of you see this message, do leave your msn or email add!
i can't pm anyone of you cos of post constraints.
if anyone knows their contacts, do pm me too
would really appreciate your help! thanks (:

p.s sorry for the consecutive posts, a little anxious!

Hi there , here I'm. Been a silent reader for many months. Yes how may I help you Ms victorie?

Because I can't leave you a pm, I may just as well leave my contact since you are anxious. 91131652 - Shiyuyn

Will be glad to share more about my experiences in plastic/cosmetic surgery in a more tactful way. Certainly I won't name any names in forum. Not anymore, because of what happened last time.

How did you get to know about me, Victorie? quite a handful of 'furmners' here actually view me as unwelcome guest, which is why I had remain a silent reader for many months.

Yet in Sg, there is a freedom of speech and opinions so long we keep to the standard requirements, and I don't see any reasons for me to be remaining speechless in forums forever.

[Shiyun777]

Actually, I'd like to join the PS gathering held in April , but due to work constraint, I'm not able to.

I've seen Yen's pic on the forum, I must say if she had her surgery in Korea, or Japan, the results will turn out much nicer. At least, this is what I had heard from people who had surgeries performed in these countries. Also, your natural facial features has a key role to play, certain people just have the 'surgery face', they have the ideal face for plastics enhancement while in others, plastic surgeries may be way too excessive for their features.

Cosmetic enhancement may not bring a good result in everyone because when we alter any parts, we are also disrupting the function of that part temporary, who knows what may occur in the long run ? Certainly if you insert anything to the body , it has a higher chace of changing the way things goes around there naturally.


In particularly, I don't believe surgeries is everything to make life successful, alot depends on your character and inner attributes.

MEanwhile I'm looking for opinions as to whether I should have this nose surgery. I'll be attaching some photos in da next posts, sincerely appreciate anyone to voice out if my face will do better with nose enhancement.

I'm trying to analyse with the help of people which part should I enhance to make the whole face look better .

[babyangel]

Hi,

has anyone gone for Calves Reduction before?

I hv quite chunky calves n thinking of doing it.

But i hv never heard of any surgeon in Spore who is able to do it other than the normal lipo or botox, etc.

I read that Dr Park in Korea is a specialist in this area n price range probably ard US$5000-6000++.

Understand he wud shift or remove the gastronemius muscles at the calves, sounds a bit like a major surgery to me but from the pics shown on his website, there is a great difference in the before n after pics.

I am thinking about the surgery n wonder if there is anyone interested in going too?

Cheers.

[hello84]

kittygirl8

Using autologus is not easy.. some plastic surgery doctor dun ever know the right technique of using rib and provide good result unlike ENT doctor...they specialist in ear nose and throat you will be much more safety if you under a good ENT doctor... and ya dr chuang is specialist in breast not nose... anyway i will change to rib in future but not now maybe next year...

I don't know whether to go to dr hsu or dr chuang
I was originally planning to use goretex for my rhino, but then after hearing about rib cartilage I was like ' hmmm...that sounds like the safer option'
but now???!! After emailing dr chuang, he said this about using rib cartilage
'I did a lot of total rib rhinoplasty in the past. However the side effect and complication make me unlike to do this operation. There will be possible warpping issue anytime after operation so you will always worry about your nose. Once the issue is appeared it is not fixable all the time. Besides the chest wall scar is another issue especially you would like to do breast augmentation. We charge___ including general anaesthesia for this surgery.'

ahhh!! I dunno what to do...do you guys think it's better to use rib or what? I don't want it to warp =/

Hey Mintgirl,

Thanks for sharing about your concern. You know what, I am having the same dilemma as you too!!! What Dr Chuang says makes me feel even more worried...

But....on the other hand, I was thinking, after reading about so many postings from the people in this forum and other forums, it seems like alot of people are facing more problem with silcon/geteox implant (alof of people are going to Dr Hsu to remove it because of this)

So I was thinking, looking at the statistic, it seems like more people had problems with silcon/geotex, rather than warping from autologous rhinoplasty....or could it that most people have only done rinoplasty recently thus its still too early to say (that I am not sure but would hope that anyone with warping problem please kindly share your experience)

In other words, rather than taking the route of presumbly 'higher' risks of infection with man-made implants, do I wanna be on the safe side and go straight for autologous rhinoplasty instead and save myself the pain and hassle in the future...? Do I wanna go through the same thing that those people who have done silicon/georext implant and gotten infection and have to have another surgery to remove it...?

One thing I do wonder about autologous rhinoplasty is this: Since its from our own body and would eventually be absorped (am I right to say this?) is it possible to remove it in cases of warping? Or like what Dr Chuang says, it is impossible to take it out...?

Does anyone knows....?

[ohlala_PS]

anyone knows which doc does forehead implant?

i feel that it's better to do forehead and nose at the same time with a doc who can do both well, since he can sculpture better this way.

A higher forehead really goes well with a high nose !

[aadvark]

anyone knows which doc does forehead implant?

i feel that it's better to do forehead and nose at the same time with a doc who can do both well, since he can sculpture better this way.

A higher forehead really goes well with a high nose !

how many ways are there to do forehead augmentation? i enquired at yanhee, and they do silicone, are there other types?

[ohlala_PS]

anyone knows which doc does forehead implant?

i feel that it's better to do forehead and nose at the same time with a doc who can do both well, since he can sculpture better this way.

A higher forehead really goes well with a high nose !

how many ways are there to do forehead augmentation? i enquired at yanhee, and they do silicone, are there other types?

I'v only heard good things about sillicone not sure about other stuff.

It's a good idea do forehead before or with nose at the same time, because I want them to look proportional and balanced.

Ideally we should do them with same surgeon to save time, money, and hassel, plus the surgeon can sculp everything better within the same operation.

[ohlala_PS]

addvark,

how much does yanhee charge for this?

[Shiyun777]

Hi Ohahla PS,

Certainly I don't think having PS is being necessarily vain. It's normal for people to want to feel good about themselves and there is a real pressure from the society which emphasize on outlook, image and appearances., however, it depends on how you view the whole thing, there are many ways to view a scenario as like there are 2 sides to a coin.

Pressure is greatly felt inevitably especially in the front lines of the media as artistes, host presenters, models, etc , but again, I tend to see these people nothing more than just puppets managed (& manipulated) by a bigger strategic org behind or backstage . Those who work behind scenes in the mgt team command more $ than the front lines, albeit the latter have the oppurtunities to be placed under created ambience for limelight thus enjoying the glamourous feel invoked by the whole team, this is still kinda delusional (to me) because it's all about psychological effect which makes people think they are great but in reality, these puppets are powerless. They can't decide really what they want. However great they may feel themselves to be, every move they make is being controlled by their manager, from the things they say to what they eat, ....all these, all are controlled tightly and their movement are being watched to see if they are behaving in the way they shouldn't.

In reality, no one cares who's who unless you have $. U know what I mean ? With $, you can earn respect even when you don't deserve it. That's the crude life and reality. And looking good tend to serve more to satisfy the lusts of pleasure for men, and perhaps self-indulgence for women. after they had their game of play & age sets in, the glory of flesh is certainly reduced to not much, which is why I decided not to place all my stakes on just looking good.

In Singapore or any other 1st world country , it take wits to survive more than looks, there are some people who prefers to be followers than leaders and vice versa, looking good unfortunately create the kinda good feel psychological effect, but may not be so in reality and it takes a good heart to enjoy prosperity & blessings in life. Society gets more hideous as there are people masking up with PS and deceiving and being deceived. It's something of a cycle created by mankind which actually leads nowwhere.

If you surround yaself with reality more, you may begin to feel what you are is what you get, so the more to that's given, the more that is required. People than to feel more closer with what comforts them rather than the incovenient truth. Emphasizing in looks are not being vain, it's just a vulnerablity of mankind to succumb to covenient deception, if not, they will gladly accept what's endowed to them in their natural attributes in the 1st place,

In terms of outlook and appearnces, why is it that people don't trust what's endowed to them since birth, is the best for them and anything differing is short changing (aesthetically) ?

However, most tend to see the other way round. A vicious cycle hard to get out is what I see.

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[mintgirl]

I agree with what shiyun has posted. As my parents always reminded me, it's your competence, ability and personality that will get you far in life, 'if you're just a vase that can't show logic and intelligence, nobody will want you, cos there's not substance.'
In a way we are all vain aren't we? We always want to look the best, but I believe at the end of the day, our inner beauty and character is the true beauty. Confidence is most important!

ahhaa major cheesiness there.

[kwelll]

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Dr. KIM BYUNG GUN

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How about Dr. Kim setting up a clinic here right in the heart of SG???

Eat ya hearts out, guys ! It might just come true sooner than you can blink ya eyes.

This man is not losing sight of his cake here

New Paper Extract 18 May

[Jang]

Hi all,

Just an update on 3rd PS Group trip of 7 buddies flying to Korea on this coming 3rd June to BK Dongyang Plastic Surgery Clinic and have their beauty enhancement by Dr Kim.

Most of them will be doing their eyes & nose surgeries and 1 having facial bone surgeries.
These are the procedures that our group buddies will be doing.

Facial bone, Eyes, Rhinoplasty & Fat Graft procedures :
1) Facial Bone ~ Zygoma & mandible Surgery
2) Eyes ~Revisional double eyelids surgery, levator muscles correction & magic epi
3) Ptosis ~ Double eyelid & levator muscles correction
4) Eye lift / Eye bags ~ Upper & lower blepharplasty
5) Fat Graft ~ Upper eyelids fats injection
4) Rhino ~ Deviation correction, rasping, ear cartilage graft on tip, alar base reduction and foreign body partial remove(fillers)

As for this trip, I will be there to assist them through the whole surgeries procedure till they return. We will go in separate 3 groups.
First group ~ 3rd June, 3 buddies & myself.
Second group ~ 4th June, 2 buddies.
Third group ~ 11th June, 2 buddies.

To be updated again, and my upcoming trip after June will be in Sept & Dec.
For those who is keen to join on our next up coming PS Group trip do e-mail me at : [email protected]

Pictures will be share for those buddies who are willing to contribute to my posting.