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Postby princessli » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 2:59 pm

hello84's pictures are here

hello84 wrote: the link is over here..

http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/hsuyc ... 001185634/

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Postby CACollegeDude » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 5:15 pm

princessli wrote:hello84's pictures are here

hello84 wrote: the link is over here..

http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/hsuyc ... 001185634/





Who is this guy? what material did he use? what doctor did he go to?
is he happy with his results?


I know my opinion was not asked..but dont u guys think he would look better with a sharper nose? he has a nice jawline and cheekbones...a sharper/straighter nose would be more fitting...






anyway...
I am desperately seeking more info on ANOTHER doctor (unrelated to the picture above)...he does very "sharp" work his name is Dr.Fukuta of VeriteClinic.com

does anyone know more about him? have had surgery with him or know of people who have?

i googled him and coudlnt really find any feedback on him...either from patients he has operated on or people whove consulted with him probably because im not using a japanese search engine and most of his patients dont type in english (im assuming)

if anyone can direct me or point me in the right direction or even provide feedback themselves of this doc i would greatly appreciate it

in the meantime

heres a sampling of fukutas work what do u guys think?

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someone pls tell me where i can find more info about him either online or on forums...again i googled him and not much came up...


heres some more pix of his work

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Postby CACollegeDude » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 5:35 pm

Hannah Lee wrote:Sometimes I wonder too if these "big name" surgeons actually perform all the surgeries themselves. They do have alot of other surgeons working at the same clinc so it did cross my mind that maybe once you're under anesthesia, how on earth would you know who operated on you?

I do recall seeing Dr. Jung come into the operating room right before they knocked me out, he was putting on his surgical gloves so I believe he did my nose himself. I also remember seeing another operation underway in the room next to mine with other surgeons working on a patient. Maybe doing eyes or facial contouring since Jung only does noses.

Dr. Jung is a very busy man with back to back surgeries packed in one day. Like la vie on rose suggested with Dr. Kim, how on earth do they manage to do so many surgeries on their own? And how can you be sure it is really him operating on you and not one of the surgeons he is training?






I know for a FACT that doctor jung only does the main surgery very very rarely does he do the opening or closing of the nose.Why? because it takes too much time to do the entire surgery by himself. which is why he has two assistant/intern docs with him at all times who help him to not only cut open the nose but to close/stitch the nose in addition to putting on the final cast.

stitching of the nose is crucial and needs to be done incredibly meticulously in order to ensure proper scar healing. and cast is also very important as the shape of the nose is easily manipulated couple days post op so one needs to make sure the cast is on completely straight.

do u really want some intern or assistant doign that for you? (and when i say you i m talking to everyone) i hope not!

jung doesnt have time to do all of this for ech and every patient which is why he only does the "main part"

this is how he can do 3-5 noses a day and this is how he can have one patient in one operating room while they prep the other in the other operating room.

also someone mentioned that he is trustworthy- NOT!!!!!

Dr.Jung says "yes i can do that" to practically to anything without full examination.

he definitely falls under the catergory of skilled but NOT meticulous/careful/attentive/detail oriented which basically renders his skill worthless. his revision rate (of his own patients) is abnormally high which says alot. he does about 3-5 noses a day hadly having enough time to focus and give the attention and care necessary for a thorough nose job. if all you want is a simple dorsal augmentation and simple tip work for a primary surgery or whatever he might be an "okay" choice however if you are very detail oriented , and want the best result possible then i would not reccomend going to him.

i have lots of info to share but would rather be private about it. pls email me me or private message me instead to discuss privately.

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Postby CACollegeDude » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 5:47 pm

ecila wrote:http://www.deantoriumi.com/

or Dr chout?

http://drchout.com

anyone wants to go to them?



Dr.Toriumi is far superior to Dr.Chout!


Toriumi is heralded as 1 of the best rhino surgeon in the world. he understands the dangers of using materials like goretex and silicone to augment the nose.... he only uses rib and self cartilage...which requires much more skill and expertise than ordering a pre-made silicone implant which is not only easier for the doctor but much cheaper and less time consuming.

Has anyone had personal experience with Dr. Toriumi or know of anyone that has? would love to hear about your results

anyway check out toriumis work it is in my opinion unparalleled.

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Postby la vie en rose » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 8:04 pm

Thanks DMN. Keenose and Who for your comments and advices. :)

Tanjhj,
I believe that Dr. Toriumi does great nose job, but I don’t want a Caucasian nose. The Vietnamese looks great after the surgery, but she looks so different. I am not happy with my nose right now but I still can recognize myself in the mirror. I am now looking for an ENT doctor like doctor Rayn Hsu (the one who did the nose of Hello84) able to use ear cartilage for bridge implant --- with a lot of experiences with Asians. Thanks for anyone who can recommend this kind of doctor. :)

Fukutas’ style is too Caucasian for me too.
I like my new nose!

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Postby CACollegeDude » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:12 pm

la vie en rose wrote:Thanks DMN. Keenose and Who for your comments and advices. :)

Tanjhj,
I believe that Dr. Toriumi does great nose job, but I don’t want a Caucasian nose. The Vietnamese looks great after the surgery, but she looks so different.
Fukutas’ style is too Caucasian for me too.



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this really makes me mad.

no offense to anyone but statements like these
are really ignorant.

first of all who said she was vietnamese?

second of all why do we associate sharp straight nose with "Caucasian" ?


the typical white nose is overlyprojected/bulky/big/boney/gnarled and twisted looking who wants a nose like that? i certainly dont.

the typical asian nose is underprojected/round/flat who wants a nose like that? i dont either



BEAUTY is NOT "typical" it is above average and that is why plastic surgery knows no color lines. if the pictures i posted above are "white" noses white people wouldnt need to get nose jobs and everyone knows that is not the case.

you guys are brainwashed into equating "white" with the images you see in the media. the beauties we see in movies/tv/magazines is NOT representative of the white population at whole!

the models in magazines and the beauties on the big screen are there for a reason because they are ABOVE average. meaning their features are atypical.

again if you look at the typical white nose you will see that yes it tends to be more projected than the typical asian nose, but not even close to a manner which is aesthetically beautiful. they usually are too big, or have a hump or too long.

there are PLENTY of asians with sharp straight nose depending on what region of asia you are from. I just went to Northern China and tons of people had this so called "white" nose you speak of.




This is a white nose

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this is a white nose

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this is a white nose

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none of these noses look like the ones i posted above
as a matter of fact they look more like these asian noses

(which are 100% all natural)

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We Asians are beautiful and we are a diverse group of people. some of us are dark some of us are light some of us have straight hair some of us have curly hair some of us have flat nose some of us have high straight nose, some of us have thin lips some of us have full lips.

stop being brainwashed by the media people!!!






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Postby babyk » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:01 pm

About the Vietnamese part, it says on the page that she is Vietnamese. I remember reading it before too.

Now don't get me wrong, I know what you are saying about white noses & most aren't perfect but also, how do you know if the Asian noses are natural? Just because the media says it looks natural? Or because you think it's natural looking? Lots of Asian have great looking noses but we won't know for sure if it's all natural or not because there are lots of times people have surgery & it only tweaks it a bit or had a really good job done.

Also, if anyone is to be born with the kinda high sharp nose that we like sometimes, it's more likely it's a white person. I'm not saying Asians never have it, but white people are more likely to be born with it even though they are usually not that perfect.

Like if I go out with my friend & I see a girl with a really high pointy nose, I'm not going to say that she looks like those rare Asians with that high nose, I'm honestly going to say that she has a more American style nose.

Btw, I PM'd you.... :wink:

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Postby kwelll » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:31 pm

CACollegeDude,

LOL....LOVELY ! YOU hit the nail.

Remember, there is no smoke without fire & it certainly takes one to know one. HAHA

Seems only like yesterday ...

Beautiful pictures there but those "white noses" made me fell off my chair! Am grateful for mine now.. haha:)

Cheers

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Postby shoe_girl » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 9:25 am

Has anyone here had I silicon implant and ear cartilage for tip? My doctor told me to push my tip up constantly to help cartilage absorption. But now my tip skin is SO soft and i feel really sharp edges underneath. Im scared its gonna tear my skin. please help!

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Postby dimensionspectrum » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:03 am

Hi all, im new here but i have been trying to read the 540 pages of posts...of course i didnt finish all..

Ya i too read somewhere that that girl is a Vietnamese girl..and u need to 6 months before can consult with him. Perhaps u can check it out?

Im thinking of going to Dr Hsu..i too, read that he has worked with Dr Toriumi for a year or so...forgot which page.

And looking at his website and the jobs that he has done, i feel safe. And i have to admit with him that inserting something from your own body is always safer than silicone n goretex in the long run..That's just my personal view.

Anyone interested to go to Dr Hsu too? He quoted me NTD60,000 for rasing nose bridge,refining tip and alar with 1 night of hospital stay.

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Postby babyk » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:09 pm

shoe_girl wrote:Has anyone here had I silicon implant and ear cartilage for tip? My doctor told me to push my tip up constantly to help cartilage absorption. But now my tip skin is SO soft and i feel really sharp edges underneath. Im scared its gonna tear my skin. please help!

So far I haven't heard of a doctor advising to push the tip up after surgery but then again maybe that's one of those things people forget to mention on the forum. Has anyone else been told to do this after ear cartilage for the tip?

I don't know if it's good to be feeling sharp edges & maybe you are shifting it too much when pushing it up? But I did read that the sharp edge feeling does go away so don't worry too much about that part. I would email or call your doctor & let them know the current situation :wink:

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Postby kwelll » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 1:07 pm

shoe_girl wrote:Has anyone here had I silicon implant and ear cartilage for tip? My doctor told me to push my tip up constantly to help cartilage absorption. But now my tip skin is SO soft and i feel really sharp edges underneath. Im scared its gonna tear my skin. please help!


"Push my tip up constantly to help cartilage ABSORPTION"

I wonder why the need to do that, and more importantly, why would you want absorption as the purpose of having it implanted is to provide both support and protection to the area, particularly with a silicone implant which is hard as compared to say Gor-tex.

Sharp edges:

This is not always a good sign as it might well be that you have been 'feeling' the silicone. Post operative time is of course important as healing continues to take place over a period of months depending on what was done.

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Postby kwelll » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 1:10 pm

dimensionspectrum wrote:Hi all, im new here but i have been trying to read the 540 pages of posts...of course i didnt finish all..

Ya i too read somewhere that that girl is a Vietnamese girl..and u need to 6 months before can consult with him. Perhaps u can check it out?

Im thinking of going to Dr Hsu..i too, read that he has worked with Dr Toriumi for a year or so...forgot which page.

And looking at his website and the jobs that he has done, i feel safe. And i have to admit with him that inserting something from your own body is always safer than silicone n goretex in the long run..That's just my personal view.

Anyone interested to go to Dr Hsu too? He quoted me NTD60,000 for rasing nose bridge,refining tip and alar with 1 night of hospital stay.



If I am not mistaken, there are quite a few people from this forum going to him. Hello84 would be the best person to contact for detailed info etc or you could always write to Dr Hsu directly as he is also an avid visitor of this forum, right Dr Hsu ? LOL

Good Luck

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Postby shoe_girl » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 2:16 pm

Kwell,

My doc told me to do this, as cartilage absorption speeds up the recovery and also im concerned about my tip being downturned. I agree with you that it sounds suspicious to absorb support for my implant. I dont know why my doc is relying on cartilage absorption to determine my tip angle, i mean shouldnt he shape it during surgery? Also he told me some people absorb 80% of ear cartilage, which sounds very weird.

I hope its not implant im feeling, as this is the very low part of my tip.. it shouldnt move down that much rite? My bridge is still too high, lol. I am scared bt the sharp parts protruding, i dont know how but my tip skin got so soft and thin over last 2 days. I gotta stop pushing it so much!

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Postby kwelll » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 6:14 pm

shoe_girl wrote:Kwell,

My doc told me to do this, as cartilage absorption speeds up the recovery and also im concerned about my tip being downturned.
This is so strange and I cannot make out of it - maybe am just thick. I did not know absorption would speed up recovery????


I agree with you that it sounds suspicious to absorb support for my implant. I dont know why my doc is relying on cartilage absorption to determine my tip angle, i mean shouldnt he shape it during surgery? Also he told me some people absorb 80% of ear cartilage, which sounds very weird. You bet you`re making more sense here! I wonder where he got the figure from and how (?) ; if its true, then what the heck are we even risking it at that level?? haha

I hope its not implant im feeling, as this is the very low part of my tip.. it shouldnt move down that much rite? My bridge is still too high, lol. I am scared bt the sharp parts protruding, i dont know how but my tip skin got so soft and thin over last 2 days. I gotta stop pushing it so much!


Well, don`t you think irritating your already "thin" tip skin further by constantly touching or worst "pushing" it would do any more harm?? Comeon.... it could well be the cartilage graft not properly shaped or that your skin is not draping smoothly or well enough. Bumps and lumps are a big NO-NO. Did you want that?


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