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Postby kwelll » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 8:38 am

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WAsadeha wrote:thanks. WHO, so cartilage is used for tip projection?... how abt the picture above... is gortex used?.. i suppose Silicone cannot be used as its too hard and thus wud cause too much pressure on the skin.

I did asked the Dr on gortex and they say its way too soft for definition and thus cant be used for tip projection.

He also warned that gortex will be hard to remove as tissues are absorbed it.


As for the picture above, can anyone tell me wad material is that?

Is the implant made up of two pieces?.. It seems an 'I' implant followed by something else for the tip projection?
Anyone knows wad that is?


Hello my dear.....

I did tell you before that the tip can only be enlongated sufficiently enough using autologous tissues i.e. CARTILAGE GRAFTS (usually septal or rib for strength)

The material on the picture is GOR-TEX (it is sheets like piled on layer by layer, silicone is a BLOCK FORM!) Dr. Tseng only uses GOR-TEX and I shape silicone implants !! REMEMBER............:)

I also do NOT buy the idea that gortex can add any real projection to the tip cos its just so SOFT. It might give the VOLUME to the tip but in my opinion, HARDLY definition. I like the volume filling it gives, but the texture sucks ....... at least for me cos I prefer the stronger material. (MAN?) LOL

FORGET about Silicone stick for the tip - PLEASE...............................whatever you do, listen to me for ONCE. I welcome questions.

Cheerio,

Kwell

(Am still a happy bunny)


Hi Kwell, thanks.. have you heard of Dr. Daniel G. Becker

http://www.beckercenter.com/profile.html

seems to be one of the top surgeon in rhinoplasty in the US ,,,

he together with Dr toriumi created the Becker/TORIUMI instrument set.



Yes, I am aware of Dr. Becker, in fact I wanted to consult him at one point seeing that he has such in depth knowledge of the nose and his website is just awesome with plenty of illustrations, which do speak a thousand words. Perhaps, its cheaper too? LOL


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Postby foubelle » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:55 am

Dr tsueng(the new chinese doctor) is he an ENT doctor doing plastic surgery or is he a ps doctor doing only noses? there's a difference i feel.

also, i thought someone mentions that he does autologus as well, why kwell says he only uses goretex and i implants. he doesnt do cartilege grafts? i thought almost all doctors in taiwan will use cartilege for your tip.

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Postby WAsadeha » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:37 am

Hey kwell who is better Dr Torumi or Dr Becker? Anyone knows the pricing?


Anyone knows good rhinoplasty surgeons like the above in vancouver Canada?

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Postby WAsadeha » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 2:38 pm

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takuda wrote:hey, thanks for the site! very nice before and after pictures..it's amazing that he can do the ''hump'' thing that u mentioned. i find it very nice on guys too! especially a high nose. omg, this is tempting, is he better or dr chuang? :???:


Takuda: Hello84 is probably first of our forum member to be going to Dr. Hsu. I posted his info and Hello84 followed up n is going to Dr. Hsu becos he prefers autologous implant too. I think Dr. Hsu is well trained cos he spend more than half day/few days seminar with Dr. Toriumi. He was an understudy for more than 1 year and is also ENT specialist. I called him before and I like his attitude which shows in his site and his contribution in Taiwan FashionGuide forum. He is relatively young and eager to assist. Gives info freely and is careful to advise in completeness.
Dunno for sure but seems Dr. Chuang has done more rhino but is not expert in 100% autologous implant. If implant material is not a concern, then best if you consult both to make decision for yourself. gd luck!


Thanks DMN for your input. It excites me to know Dr. Hsu was trained under the renowned Dr. Toriumi (who has at least 6 months waiting time for a consult!). I do agree with you about Dr. Chuang, he seems a conservative man and perfers to use implants instead for obvious reasons. I must add that what Dr. Toriumi and Hsu do are highly skilled and require much talent and experience to perform (not simply insertion of material) because I do not believe the nose would look any good without proper tip projection to balance the height of the bridge. Another, just my personal opinion. That brings me the question, why did I not go to Dr. Hsu in the first place???? His fees are so attractive too which is always a bonus but not everything. :)

Good luck to those seeing him, am so excited for you.

Anyone knows how much Dr Hsu charges ?
thanks.

the pics look promising and i like the fact he does similar style to Dr Toriumi. Anyone know the booking waiting time? .. Does he speak English?

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Postby FlyingMice » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 3:27 pm

Have anyone done rhinoplasty with Dr Hong Soo Wan before?

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Postby kwelll » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 5:19 pm

foubelle wrote:Dr tsueng(the new chinese doctor) is he an ENT doctor doing plastic surgery or is he a ps doctor doing only noses? there's a difference i feel.

also, i thought someone mentions that he does autologus as well, why kwell says he only uses goretex and i implants. he doesnt do cartilege grafts? i thought almost all doctors in taiwan will use cartilege for your tip.



I did NOT say Dr Tseng do not use cartilage grafts - I said he uses only Gor-tex and I shape silicone IMPLANTS in reply to someone's enquiry. Of course the tip MUST use cartilage, LAH !!!

LOL

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Postby kwelll » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 7:14 pm

WAsadeha wrote:
kwelll wrote:
DMN wrote:
takuda wrote:hey, thanks for the site! very nice before and after pictures..it's amazing that he can do the ''hump'' thing that u mentioned. i find it very nice on guys too! especially a high nose. omg, this is tempting, is he better or dr chuang? :???:


Takuda: Hello84 is probably first of our forum member to be going to Dr. Hsu. I posted his info and Hello84 followed up n is going to Dr. Hsu becos he prefers autologous implant too. I think Dr. Hsu is well trained cos he spend more than half day/few days seminar with Dr. Toriumi. He was an understudy for more than 1 year and is also ENT specialist. I called him before and I like his attitude which shows in his site and his contribution in Taiwan FashionGuide forum. He is relatively young and eager to assist. Gives info freely and is careful to advise in completeness.
Dunno for sure but seems Dr. Chuang has done more rhino but is not expert in 100% autologous implant. If implant material is not a concern, then best if you consult both to make decision for yourself. gd luck!


Thanks DMN for your input. It excites me to know Dr. Hsu was trained under the renowned Dr. Toriumi (who has at least 6 months waiting time for a consult!). I do agree with you about Dr. Chuang, he seems a conservative man and perfers to use implants instead for obvious reasons. I must add that what Dr. Toriumi and Hsu do are highly skilled and require much talent and experience to perform (not simply insertion of material) because I do not believe the nose would look any good without proper tip projection to balance the height of the bridge. Another, just my personal opinion. That brings me the question, why did I not go to Dr. Hsu in the first place???? His fees are so attractive too which is always a bonus but not everything. :)

Good luck to those seeing him, am so excited for you.

Anyone knows how much Dr Hsu charges ?
thanks.

the pics look promising and i like the fact he does similar style to Dr Toriumi. Anyone know the booking waiting time? .. Does he speak English?


Dr Hsu is a lovely man and very kind almost too generous as he shares his knowledge wholeheartedly. He writes English and am quite sure speak it too. He charges around 80,000-90,000 NT for rib cartilage implantation. He uses only autologous if I am not mistaken
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Postby foubelle » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 9:47 pm

orh!

sorry. it's so blur of me to say that.

personally, i think dr hsu quite resistant to changes. he only does natural nose an by natural he only wants to do a little bit of changes. not good if you're looking for drastic changes.

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Postby kwelll » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:25 pm

foubelle wrote:orh!

sorry. it's so blur of me to say that.

personally, i think dr hsu quite resistant to changes. he only does natural nose an by natural he only wants to do a little bit of changes. not good if you're looking for drastic changes.


Oh yeah? What do you mean? Examples? "little bit of changes" ??

Care to elaborate so we can all understand better?

Kwell

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Postby WAsadeha » Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:58 am

Hey kweel which do you think is the best? Dr Touriumi, Dr Becker, or Dr Hsu?

Does Dr Hsu uses Digital imaging?

Anyone here undergone surgery by any of the surgeons above?

Thank you

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Postby 244522 » Sun, 26 Aug 2007 3:23 pm

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What are the other procedures that can be used to lift your skin? I tried radio frequency before, I think the effect is okay. Need monthly maintainence.

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Postby foubelle » Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:13 pm

like when i show him a picture of what i want and how i look like for the moment, he will say you dont need this, dont need that, just add a bit of height at the bridge and make your nose longer can already. but the thing is, i have deepset eyes, high checkbones but no nose bridge. maybe from the side it can be seen but from the front there is nothing at all. i brought this up to dr hsu and he seems reluctant to change. keep on telling me that we are asians and not westerns. (the pic i show him is the one i show you guys)

like dude, i showed the picture to make my point, like high bridge, fleshy but sharp tip and MOST IMPORTANTLY NO NOSTRILS SEEN FROM THE FRONT AND VAGUELY SOME FROM THE SIDES if at all.

yet, he keeps on showing me what he thinks is an idea/pretty nose. but all the noses the nostrils are slightly flaring which is def not what i want. it's like tell him and tell him and tell him and tell him. email here and there and look for other pictures to show him what i mean yet he always think that his is the best look for me. i.e visible nostirls from front and side with the columella longer than the alar to make a longer nose.

i understand that columella lower than alar is the nicer ratio but it happens that if you see his work, the columella becomes so much lower than the alar than you can see a triangular part from the side because the curve from the outside of the nostirls to the columella wasnt lowered at all. so you still have your upturn nostirls(which compliments your original short nose) and low columella which makes yours nostrils even more visible.

and the tip it's like i understand that i have rather thick skin and might not be like the vitenam girl on dr toirumi's site. i'm not asking for that. just a well shaped fleshy tip.(my original nose is quite fleshy. jus tthat the nostrils are showing. ie.short nose) to re-iterate my point(because i think pictures are the best form of communication) i showed him the girl's pic again. and say how i like her tip because the nostrils are not visible from the front and she has a fleshy tip. yet when you see from the side, her tip is well defined(not really sharp i think) and fleshy. i think this type of nose can be found in asians as well, it's just that the others i find are not closeups so not that clear. i never said hey doc, give me that white chick's nose.

again he say. we are asians not westerners. and he suggested that i do sillicon in this way that i get this feeling that he's talking DOWN to me and treating me like this ignorant little girl. like aiyah, go look for someone else larh, i have no time for you.

another forumer pm me with a lot of the same situation. she wanted a defined bridge as well and dr hsu told her to get a sillicon implant as well in that tone also.

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Postby hello84 » Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:40 am

foubelle wrote:like when i show him a picture of what i want and how i look like for the moment, he will say you dont need this, dont need that, just add a bit of height at the bridge and make your nose longer can already. but the thing is, i have deepset eyes, high checkbones but no nose bridge. maybe from the side it can be seen but from the front there is nothing at all. i brought this up to dr hsu and he seems reluctant to change. keep on telling me that we are asians and not westerns. (the pic i show him is the one i show you guys)

like dude, i showed the picture to make my point, like high bridge, fleshy but sharp tip and MOST IMPORTANTLY NO NOSTRILS SEEN FROM THE FRONT AND VAGUELY SOME FROM THE SIDES if at all.

yet, he keeps on showing me what he thinks is an idea/pretty nose. but all the noses the nostrils are slightly flaring which is def not what i want. it's like tell him and tell him and tell him and tell him. email here and there and look for other pictures to show him what i mean yet he always think that his is the best look for me. i.e visible nostirls from front and side with the columella longer than the alar to make a longer nose.

i understand that columella lower than alar is the nicer ratio but it happens that if you see his work, the columella becomes so much lower than the alar than you can see a triangular part from the side because the curve from the outside of the nostirls to the columella wasnt lowered at all. so you still have your upturn nostirls(which compliments your original short nose) and low columella which makes yours nostrils even more visible.

and the tip it's like i understand that i have rather thick skin and might not be like the vitenam girl on dr toirumi's site. i'm not asking for that. just a well shaped fleshy tip.(my original nose is quite fleshy. jus tthat the nostrils are showing. ie.short nose) to re-iterate my point(because i think pictures are the best form of communication) i showed him the girl's pic again. and say how i like her tip because the nostrils are not visible from the front and she has a fleshy tip. yet when you see from the side, her tip is well defined(not really sharp i think) and fleshy. i think this type of nose can be found in asians as well, it's just that the others i find are not closeups so not that clear. i never said hey doc, give me that white chick's nose.

again he say. we are asians not westerners. and he suggested that i do sillicon in this way that i get this feeling that he's talking DOWN to me and treating me like this ignorant little girl. like aiyah, go look for someone else larh, i have no time for you.

another forumer pm me with a lot of the same situation. she wanted a defined bridge as well and dr hsu told her to get a sillicon implant as well in that tone also.



although you wanted a tall and sharp nose but sometime you must understand that every nose got their own limit.. the nose on other model may not fit on your features.. if not you will look very fake.. you cant just blame dr hsu like that no matter what he is still a doctor not god.. pls understand that.. plastic surgery is helping us to enhance.. there is no nose that is perfect.. i am not trying to protect dr hsu but what i know abt dr hsu is that he is a nice guy.. and caring doctor he is helping me all along.. if not i will not choose him as my doctor..

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Postby WAsadeha » Mon, 27 Aug 2007 2:11 am

Dr Hsu also uses Silicone?....
Hello84 can we msn ... like to tok more on Dr hsu ..

Add me wasadeha@hotmail.com

Thank you

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Postby kwelll » Mon, 27 Aug 2007 8:44 am

WAsadeha wrote:Dr Hsu also uses Silicone?....
Hello84 can we msn ... like to tok more on Dr hsu ..

Add me wasadeha@hotmail.com

Thank you


OK,

I am NOT trying to put you down, but its seems you are very confused and one of those that doesn`t really know where you are heading to........ I thought you were interested in the Thai doctors? Then American then Taiwan then ..........????

My word of advise is : WRITE TO DR. HSU personally and satisfy yourself. He is a nice enough person to answer EACH AND EVERY question and/or E-mail without reservations - this I can attest and he does it beautifully. He might NOT be the surgeon of your choice eventually but hey, go 'chat' with him and find out more for yourself !

I think you must first know what YOU want (ie. the material) and the style of nose you like - match that with the one closest to your expectation - take a stance and move on. I can also assure you`ll be even more confused down the road if YOU DO NOT know what you want.

I am still a HAPPY bunny.

Kwell


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