Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[kalyn]

hi Kalyn

i think Dawn's nose is nt skinny
only certain pictures
i like her nose real nice

maybe the tip n alar can have a teeny bit more flesh to look natural
in certain angle
skinny nose is micheal jackson n some TCS extra
very faky
d u bring Dawn pic to Dr Chuang?

Dawn's nose is really good imo. I think it wldn't be too nice if a nose gets skinner than hers on an Asian face. Or at least on my face. My nose is like 2 - 3 times bigger and rounder than hers?? Omg, I need a revision.

[kalyn]

hi Kalyn

i think Dawn's nose is nt skinny
only certain pictures
i like her nose real nice

maybe the tip n alar can have a teeny bit more flesh to look natural
in certain angle
skinny nose is micheal jackson n some TCS extra
very faky
d u bring Dawn pic to Dr Chuang?

What I like about Dawn's new nose is her bridge - its well blended from the point between her eyes and middle bridge and doesnt have the implant edgy look. Yes, I do agree her nose is not all than sharp and thin , you will notice she takes photos with her head down (most times) and that is just knowing how to present your best on a camera. Dawn has her chin augmented (obvious) so it does elongate the entire face hence changing the face shape. When you chin is strong, your face is less round from a distance.

Oh No, Mike Jackson is NO comparison at all - he does not have a nose, he has a deformed face. Who ever wants a nose like his is out of their minds. (his tip is so fragile)

Yes, I too thought that Dawn has her chin augmented. I wanna do that next. Anyone can tell me how much does Dr. Jung charge for chin augmentation?

[kalyn]

Go to http://www.faceparty.com/kwelll

Nice pair of eyes. Boy you looked like some Korean actor.

Hi,

Thanks for your kind words, now have a look at my "sexy" lips (same link) now you know why I need some sort of reduction, eh? Too much attention on the lips liao ... kinda tired of explaining if I have lip gloss or colour on etc? What brand ah?? Silly !!

your lips will definitely benefit from a lip reduction. I like your shape!

[foubelle]

i can sort of tell that michelle reis wasnt pure chinese. but exactly mix what i cant tell. for dawn's nose, i agree that it looks good but i think it looks fake as well. like too straight maybe? and her tip is smaller than her bridge.

[hello84]

i was told by dr hsu tat he is not doing rib cartilage for me becosz it is a major operation... he is using just the ear cartilage and inner nose cartilage for me... either he cut my left ear or right ear depend where i using lay with when i am sleeping.. For warping, i am not sure will it happen anot... but what dr hsu say is all depend of the surgeon skill.. if he is good enough i dun think tat will happen... anyway he is a nice doctor he just do a computer emulate for me to see my post op view... got 2 pic one is straight bridge and another one is got a slight bump on your middle of your bridge... still not sure which to choose.. most likely i will be choosing the slight bump look manyly on guy..

actually.. before i make appointment with Jung, i have already communicate with Dr Hsu via emails long time ago.. the reason why i still choose Jung is becos, if i have not enough cartilage from nose and ear, i might need to take from the rib.. which is happened alot of times.
Dr Hsu n Jung said for rib cartilage is quite a major op.. the healing at the rib will take long time, and it very pain!!
and yes, takura is rite, the chances of wraping also not low hor.. possible one lor.. if u guys got time to read thru the fashion forum (very long i know, i took very long to almost finish only!!) there're quite a number of them complaint about autologus too, can u imagine the pain, the scar on the body and still not guarantee that it wouldnt have any side effect... hmmm.. i don think it worth a try. It my point of view la, cos i cant take pain at all.. hehehe.. and i don want any scar on my body for just a nose job..

hey Kwell,

i can understand yr anxiety now tt yr swelling gets worse... i was too wondering why i did not go to dr. Hsu when i was swelling badly cos despite setting out to get 100% autologous implant i agreed to goretex n donor's cartilage. i thot to myself:" damn, if all autologous material then swelling wld hv gone down faster." but my anxiety went away as i heal.

hope u de-swell fast. probably need to get a strong antibiotics.

best,
dmn

[DMN]

i think angelina jolie has a pretty nose too! i never see sharon stone so i'm nopt sure. but somehow i prefer the slightly fleshy version before she went for rhinoplasty.

i'm rather confused with the ski slope part. cos compared to DMN's(i hope you dont mind) her's is striaght. or is it because DMN still has swelling at the tip of her noe which makes the slope even more prominent.i dont really like the extreme slope but would prefer a striaghter curve(not totally straight cos that would look tranny as well). i like her(the picture's) nose a lot! i think it's a charismatic nose. hahas.

hi kwell & foubelle,

met Ocean11 and she had done her op a month earlier than me. so my hump will ease off. tho not sure will be as straight as hers.

her hump is almost gone n she looks damn good or chio bu to me! her left side profile esp. very natural n suitable for her delicate pretty face. BUT to her, she wants her tip more refined n pointed.

as for the model foubelle posted, to me - she does look like the few noses i saw in dr. jung's clinic. unless, u r actress/actor or models, he seems reluctant to create height bridge n straight side profile.

beauty is in eye of beholder. this model definitely has a metal/water (boxy n rounded combo) face in mian xiang terms n her nose tip matches her cheeks. such proportions r more common in asians. of course, the contours for her are more exaggerated than asians.

cheers,
dmn

[keenose]

Hi kwell,

Well, I do have deep set eyes, a big humpy nose but poor jaw line and no cheeks! I am interested in malars but is any doc in Singapore experienced in that?

On second thoughts maybe you are right about MJ LOL

Hey MBK,

Can malars help you get cheekbones? I thought malars were to shave it down or something...

How about fat injection or fillers?

[keenose]

i think angelina jolie has a pretty nose too! i never see sharon stone so i'm nopt sure. but somehow i prefer the slightly fleshy version before she went for rhinoplasty.

i'm rather confused with the ski slope part. cos compared to DMN's(i hope you dont mind) her's is striaght. or is it because DMN still has swelling at the tip of her noe which makes the slope even more prominent.i dont really like the extreme slope but would prefer a striaghter curve(not totally straight cos that would look tranny as well). i like her(the picture's) nose a lot! i think it's a charismatic nose. hahas.

hi kwell & foubelle,

met Ocean11 and she had done her op a month earlier than me. so my hump will ease off. tho not sure will be as straight as hers.

her hump is almost gone n she looks damn good or chio bu to me! her left side profile esp. very natural n suitable for her delicate pretty face. BUT to her, she wants her tip more refined n pointed.

as for the model foubelle posted, to me - she does look like the few noses i saw in dr. jung's clinic. unless, u r actress/actor or models, he seems reluctant to create height bridge n straight side profile.

beauty is in eye of beholder. this model definitely has a metal/water (boxy n rounded combo) face in mian xiang terms n her nose tip matches her cheeks. such proportions r more common in asians. of course, the contours for her are more exaggerated than asians.

cheers,
dmn

WAHhhhhhhhhhh so many pple keep saying that our da jie Ocean is very chio leh.. so curiousssssssss

[keenose]

just wondering. a lot of you guys talk about how dr jung's noses are not sharp but round and how it's a bit like a ski nose. but if i ask/specify/show pictures, will he do it straight for me?

also, i've attached some pictures. are thiese considered round or sharp? ski nose or striaght slope?

They look rounded at the tip to me...

I think its good to show your PS what is your perception of beauty with pictures and stuff.. but you may not get exactly what you asked for.. since they have to access and get you something which fits you.

Hmm so I told myself that I wouldnt have a FIXED idea of what I want.. because if I fix myself on wanting something, then if I dont get the results I want.. that would mean disappointment.

So might as well just talk to the doctor and see what he can do...

Just my personal thoughts.

[keenose]

Hey DMN,

So you met Ocean alone? Had alot of girly PS chat?

Anything interesting to share with us? haa

[mbk]

[Hey MBK,

Can malars help you get cheekbones? I thought malars were to shave it down or something...

How about fat injection or fillers?[/quote]

Malar implants are to enhance cheekbones, shaving the malars is well, shaving..

Fat injection might give your cheeks fullness. I want really angular sculpted cheeks..duno if anyone in singapore is good at this kind of surgery

[keenose]

[Hey MBK,

Can malars help you get cheekbones? I thought malars were to shave it down or something...

How about fat injection or fillers?

Malar implants are to enhance cheekbones, shaving the malars is well, shaving..

Fat injection might give your cheeks fullness. I want really angular sculpted cheeks..duno if anyone in singapore is good at this kind of surgery[/quote]


OOOh I see.. would it be considered a MAJOR operation too? Like bone shaving?

You want the like.. 'lucy liu' Look?

[mbk]

From what I have read bone shaving takes longer to recover from compared to malar implants.

I like these kindda cheeks

http://www.models.com/model_culture/50t ... &lnumber=1

http://www.models.com/model_culture/50t ... &lnumber=1

[kwelll]

[quote="keenose"][quote="foubelle"][img]
Hmm so I told myself that I wouldnt have a FIXED idea of what I want.. because if I fix myself on wanting something, then if I dont get the results I want.. that would mean disappointment.

Hmm Keenose,

Thanks for your thoughts BUT ... whilst you want to avoid disappointment (like everyone else), wouldn`t it be more risky to NOT know exactly what you want corrected or enchanced before you go under the knife even with the most skillful surgeon? The basis of a consultation and post op follow-up is to assess whether both of you have achieved what you set out to do with a clear direction (or am I wrong?)

[kwelll]

Hi DMN,

You wrote:

..."as for the model foubelle posted, to me - she does look like the few noses i saw in dr. jung's clinic. unless, u r actress/actor or models, he seems reluctant to create height bridge n straight side profile."


I wish Dr Jung had told me that only actress/actor/models can have a high bridge and/or straight profile ! When I stepped into his office, I knew exactly what i wanted i.e. (a straight bridge all angles with anterior tip projection) We both agreed my original height between the eyes should remain as it suits my face. Consultation was effective but brief as we both knew what we wanted to achieve with the agreed material.

I also do not see the rational about average people having a less than straight nose with lower height etc unless you have specified you want a nose like that. IMO, it is a case of conforming to his STYLE of work and most people do not realise until after the surgery is over, wait for the deswelling to take place, then WALAH !

From my short experiences at the office, I have met with a few Korean patients who has had 3 revisions (too wide, too low, then finally no change after 3rd revision). Even her granny was visibly upset and yes, the patient herself could not hold back her tears any longer. It seems that when you`re so "good" at your craft, you tend to go with the flow and adopt the same style and be in your comfort zone. I hate to admit some of the noses are cookie-cutter type but if it is his work and the patient is ultimately happy, then so be it. Unfortunately, people are more educated now and what can be done realistically and/or know what we want especially for a revision (nevermind what number) case because you are more meticulous and razor sharp. The risk of complications exists, as does the potential need for revision surgery to improve the initial result. It is essential to find a surgeon who is experienced in this procedure and who clearly understands how the patient wishes to change the nose's appearance.

I am of the opinion that in cosmetic surgery, one has to be precise because it would certainly help the doctor on the surgical table, and ultimately achieve the goal. Without this essential framework, it is only a case of getting what the doctor thinks is best for YOU on YOUR face.

We only have ONE face and we carry it daily 24/7 - treat it with CARE.
Just my 2 cents worth.