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Postby kwelll » Sat, 21 Jul 2007 7:59 pm

foubelle wrote:kwell: but i thought goretex allows your cells to grow into and ground it as well? can someone please clarify?



Foubelle,


Gortex implants are porous, so the body's tissue can grow into it which helps to keep the implant from migrating. The implant is soft and flexible, allowing it to be molded into certain shapes prior to placement into the soft tissue. In addition, the implants can be removed if desired, allowing you to choose whether or not your implants are permanent. That is why it is alot MORE expensive than Silicone which is "DEAD" (tissues cannot grow around or into it) so it tends to come shift, change shape etc with time or accidents etc...Besides, because it is so hard, it is very noticeable from the outside if not shaped and/or implanted properly- the nose tip is the worst especially those "L" shape implants because the pressure at the end is too great. My sister's tip has thin out within a year!!! Anyway, hers look very unnatural but she can live with it..... LOL

With Mephor, it is harder to remove once it stablises with our own tissues.

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hi guys..

Postby hello84 » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:49 am

wow.. they are so many peoples discuss nosejob by silicon or gortex.. seldom have people mention abt nosejob by inner nose cartilage and ear cartilage... anyway i am going to kaoshiung for natural implant such as ear cartilage and inner nose cartilage.. i will be seeing dr hsu this coming sept 4... he is a very nice doctor providing me and advising me all along.. i like those nose that got abit hump on your bridge.. and he is able to do that.. it would be nice on guy.... anyway his website is www.ychsu.com
feel free go see see his work is very well done..

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Postby DMN » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 1:42 am

hello84 wrote:wow.. they are so many peoples discuss nosejob by silicon or gortex.. seldom have people mention abt nosejob by inner nose cartilage and ear cartilage... anyway i am going to kaoshiung for natural implant such as ear cartilage and inner nose cartilage.. i will be seeing dr hsu this coming sept 4... he is a very nice doctor providing me and advising me all along.. i like those nose that got abit hump on your bridge.. and he is able to do that.. it would be nice on guy.... anyway his website is www.ychsu.com
feel free go see see his work is very well done..


hey hello84,

so u hv went to consult dr. hsu? i wld hv gone to him if i hv not set my appointment with dr. Jung, cos 100% antulogous implant i my 1st preference. best of luck and do let us know how yr op turn out.

cheers,
dmn

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Re: hi guys..

Postby fushiacotton » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 2:22 am

hello84 wrote:wow.. they are so many peoples discuss nosejob by silicon or gortex.. seldom have people mention abt nosejob by inner nose cartilage and ear cartilage... anyway i am going to kaoshiung for natural implant such as ear cartilage and inner nose cartilage.. i will be seeing dr hsu this coming sept 4... he is a very nice doctor providing me and advising me all along.. i like those nose that got abit hump on your bridge.. and he is able to do that.. it would be nice on guy.... anyway his website is www.ychsu.com
feel free go see see his work is very well done..



hi hello84,

ard how much does he charge for a complete nose job? i never heard of him before...

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Postby hello84 » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 2:27 am

dr hsu charge me NT57500 and this was the promotion price till sept... he was a very nice guy... he treat his patient like his friend and was very caring keep on advising me what to do and what should not... ya DMN i heard you say before...:)

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Postby DMN » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 3:47 am

i was doing some research on mini lift for my eye and came across something which solved the mistery of why my scalp (top of head area) feeling painful n numb after my multi-op last month. the scalp was sooo sensitive esp when i had to lift my hands to change n washed hair.

phew!! it was becos of my lower eyelift lift!!! :lol: now, that the pain n numbness r gone, and, that i found out what caused it, i am finally relieved. cos i was afraid it was an side effect of op.

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Postby fushiacotton » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:43 pm

DMN wrote:i was doing some research on mini lift for my eye and came across something which solved the mistery of why my scalp (top of head area) feeling painful n numb after my multi-op last month. the scalp was sooo sensitive esp when i had to lift my hands to change n washed hair.

phew!! it was becos of my lower eyelift lift!!! :lol: now, that the pain n numbness r gone, and, that i found out what caused it, i am finally relieved. cos i was afraid it was an side effect of op.



DMN,

lucky you were not balding :D
i am VERY scared of balding.

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Postby takuda » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 5:59 pm

hello84 wrote:dr hsu charge me NT57500 and this was the promotion price till sept... he was a very nice guy... he treat his patient like his friend and was very caring keep on advising me what to do and what should not... ya DMN i heard you say before...:)


hey, thanks for the site! very nice before and after pictures..it's amazing that he can do the ''hump'' thing that u mentioned. i find it very nice on guys too! especially a high nose. omg, this is tempting, is he better or dr chuang? :???:
Cry when you get ripped.

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Re: hi guys..

Postby kwelll » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 6:14 pm

hello84 wrote:wow.. they are so many peoples discuss nosejob by silicon or gortex.. seldom have people mention abt nosejob by inner nose cartilage and ear cartilage... anyway i am going to kaoshiung for natural implant such as ear cartilage and inner nose cartilage.. i will be seeing dr hsu this coming sept 4... he is a very nice doctor providing me and advising me all along.. i like those nose that got abit hump on your bridge.. and he is able to do that.. it would be nice on guy.... anyway his website is www.ychsu.com
feel free go see see his work is very well done..


Hi,

You are absolutely right about using your own tissues/cartilage because it is the safest (its all yours to keep) and probably with the least side effect (if any). However, the problem is not everyone of us have enough of cartilage to use (septum) within the nose or insufficient (especially those who have had multiple surgeries) to augment a nose of your desired shape and size, hence, silastic implants are used instead. One of the obvious reasons most surgeons prefer the latter is ease of insertion and/or removal.

There are some interesting pictures on his website, and it gives one an idea what to expect after natural augmentation (or reduction), however, I tend to have the opinion that cartilage grafts especially at the tip (above supratip) must be well shaped otherwise it will be edgy and the skin will not drape properly in the long term. What you do not want is a bumpy tip which can be very distracting.
http://mypaper.pchome.com.tw/news/hsuyc ... 0527092313
Nonetheless, a properly shaped nose combined with good healing with natural cartilage can be very appealing and certainly natural in the long term. It really depends on the surgeons' surgical skills and artistic talent here.

Thanks for the link.

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SinEcch

Postby kwelll » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 8:27 pm

Has anyone in Singapore successfully bought "SinEcch" and is happy with it?

Am considering taking this because my wound never seem to heal, still plenty of swelling and recently the self dissolvable stitches where the incisions are got irritated causing even more swelling!! I don`t think its a case of slow healing but something is wrong somewhere ....Bummer ...:(

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 8:38 pm

kwelll wrote:Has anyone in Singapore successfully bought "SinEcch" and is happy with it?

Am considering taking this because my wound never seem to heal, still plenty of swelling and recently the self dissolvable stitches where the incisions are got irritated causing even more swelling!! I don`t think its a case of slow healing but something is wrong somewhere ....Bummer ...:(


http://www.singaporeexpats.com/forum/su ... cch#225750

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Postby DMN » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 8:56 pm

takuda wrote:hey, thanks for the site! very nice before and after pictures..it's amazing that he can do the ''hump'' thing that u mentioned. i find it very nice on guys too! especially a high nose. omg, this is tempting, is he better or dr chuang? :???:


Takuda: Hello84 is probably first of our forum member to be going to Dr. Hsu. I posted his info and Hello84 followed up n is going to Dr. Hsu becos he prefers autologous implant too. I think Dr. Hsu is well trained cos he spend more than half day/few days seminar with Dr. Toriumi. He was an understudy for more than 1 year and is also ENT specialist. I called him before and I like his attitude which shows in his site and his contribution in Taiwan FashionGuide forum. He is relatively young and eager to assist. Gives info freely and is careful to advise in completeness.
Dunno for sure but seems Dr. Chuang has done more rhino but is not expert in 100% autologous implant. If implant material is not a concern, then best if you consult both to make decision for yourself. gd luck!

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Postby kwelll » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 9:01 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
kwelll wrote:Has anyone in Singapore successfully bought "SinEcch" and is happy with it?

Am considering taking this because my wound never seem to heal, still plenty of swelling and recently the self dissolvable stitches where the incisions are got irritated causing even more swelling!! I don`t think its a case of slow healing but something is wrong somewhere ....Bummer ...:(


http://www.singaporeexpats.com/forum/su ... cch#225750



Thank you for the links.

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Postby kwelll » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 9:08 pm

DMN wrote:
takuda wrote:hey, thanks for the site! very nice before and after pictures..it's amazing that he can do the ''hump'' thing that u mentioned. i find it very nice on guys too! especially a high nose. omg, this is tempting, is he better or dr chuang? :???:


Takuda: Hello84 is probably first of our forum member to be going to Dr. Hsu. I posted his info and Hello84 followed up n is going to Dr. Hsu becos he prefers autologous implant too. I think Dr. Hsu is well trained cos he spend more than half day/few days seminar with Dr. Toriumi. He was an understudy for more than 1 year and is also ENT specialist. I called him before and I like his attitude which shows in his site and his contribution in Taiwan FashionGuide forum. He is relatively young and eager to assist. Gives info freely and is careful to advise in completeness.
Dunno for sure but seems Dr. Chuang has done more rhino but is not expert in 100% autologous implant. If implant material is not a concern, then best if you consult both to make decision for yourself. gd luck!


Thanks DMN for your input. It excites me to know Dr. Hsu was trained under the renowned Dr. Toriumi (who has at least 6 months waiting time for a consult!). I do agree with you about Dr. Chuang, he seems a conservative man and perfers to use implants instead for obvious reasons. I must add that what Dr. Toriumi and Hsu do are highly skilled and require much talent and experience to perform (not simply insertion of material) because I do not believe the nose would look any good without proper tip projection to balance the height of the bridge. Another, just my personal opinion. That brings me the question, why did I not go to Dr. Hsu in the first place???? His fees are so attractive too which is always a bonus but not everything. :)

Good luck to those seeing him, am so excited for you.

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Postby DMN » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 9:23 pm

hey Kwell,

i can understand yr anxiety now tt yr swelling gets worse... :cry: i was too wondering why i did not go to dr. Hsu when i was swelling badly cos despite setting out to get 100% autologous implant i agreed to goretex n donor's cartilage. i thot to myself:" damn, if all autologous material then swelling wld hv gone down faster." but my anxiety went away as i heal.

hope u de-swell fast. probably need to get a strong antibiotics.

best,
dmn


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