Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[leenaaaa]

Kalyn & Lapomme,

I really sympathize with you. My implant was crooked from the start and was told that this was completely normal.. that it was the result of uneven swelling. In my case, my implant was crooked unfortunately.

I hope that this isn't the case for both of you. I would suggest perhaps emailing Dr Chuang to express your worry. However, I think the 3rd month would be a better time to assess whether it is crooked or not. Usually revisions should be done after 6 months. Dr Chuang is really nice and perhaps he will redo your nose for free if there is a problem?

CHeer up!

Same problem for me too.I did rhinoplasty with dr Chuang (in the middle of june) and now I realize that my nose is very crooked and looks weird (dixit my sister),one of my side is lower than the other,maybe because it's more swelling than ther other side...I don't know The thing is I 'm really scare about the final result....It's been one month now and my nose is crooked,not straight,my tip is stil bulbous and my bridge is too high I really think to do a revision or something else.
I wonder why dr Chuang didn't tell me to wear a harness for at least one week.In France or USA,people who did rhinoplasty used to wear harness after the surgery but not in Taiwan...Is it usual??
Lapomme,who is really scared about her fake and crooked nose Aaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!

Agreed!! I did my rhinoplasty on the 8th June and I'm facing the exact same problems as you.

1. It looks weird and slightly crooked(my sis and friends who knew me before the surgery can tell that it is fake from the side)
2. One of the side is lower than the other side!
3. Bridge is TOO high, i feel like those thai trans that did multiple nosejobs
I can live with bulbous tip, though it's still swelling now. It doesnt really affect me, for at least it looks natural. But for the above, it's scaring me.

May I know you did silicone or goretex? Let's pray together and wait for a little while more... if we still don't see the results, probably we can then ask for an explaination on Dr. Chuang's side? I don't wanna sound too impatient, but I do worry too. I'm going to see a local doctor next week for a consultation...

Meanwhile, hope it gets better girls!

[leenaaaa]

i's,

You PMed me these questions awhile ago and I replied. Check your inbox =) If you deleted it, let me know and I will gladly answer your questions again =)

Good luck with healing everyone,
You should take sinnech before, anything eariler is better, it gets your body prepared.


Hi leenaaaa, thank you very much for letting me know. I hope everything works out for you. I don't know when or if I will be going to korea, it's either korea or japan for me. But if I go, and you still need, I will let you know.

I am concerned, though cuz I am considering Dr. Kim from Bk, and I read that he did your original eyelid surgery? I don't mind low creases, I just worry about the symmetry and natural ness. Do you think your original surgery accomplished that, the symmetry and naturalness? And how were the creases from Dr. Kim, were they clean and smooth, or noticeable scarring and raised and not smooth? (I know for medi epi this migh be different , when you said scarring from old bleph you were referring to he med epi right?)

Thank you so much for considering these questions, I really appreciate your help. I Just don't know who else to go to in asia for eyelids, all of I've heard of good results are from Dr. Park, Dr. Kim and Migo clinic.....

Take care and please keep us posted on your healing progress. It takes time, but right now it's just a waiting game.

Hi candall, thank you so much for your help, That would be great if you find the site...I don't read mandarin, eventhough technically I should be able to after like 4 yrs of mandarin and being chinese...ughhh, I am such a slacker. Anyways, My mom could read for me, so could my dad, so yes i would be wonderful if you could find the site. Thank you!

Take care everyone

i's

[leenaaaa]

Perline,

Check your Inbox =)

I'm just wondering if anyone who is going to Korea soon would be kind enough to help me buy scar cream from there? I would really appreciate it =) Incentive... lunch on me! Hehe =)

Leenaaaa.. i've rec'd your pm but couldn't reply cos' i've not enuf posts.. hehe Btw, which Dr Kim u're referring to? I'm considering BK and Migo clinic now.. really headache ehhh

U could pm me your email address probably..

[kwelll]

Dear Kwell and astar,

Unbelievable? Getting sympathy ? Disgusting to the core? Simply not interested enough? Slanderous? Mentally unsound? Life haS been tough for me?

Cool it folks, look at your comments posted towards me, anger is singnificant and obviously you are taking it personally on me now.

I am not Irenea, neither do I know her photos. What i posted ARE MY photos depicting the real me in real life. Look, I am not answerable to anyone regarding my posts, i am sharing my experience and you absolutely have the rights to believe it or not. WHY WOULD I WANT TO COOK UP UNTRUTHS ON THE NET? IT"S A WASTE OF NOT ONLY YOUR TIME BUT MY TIME AS WELL. DO U THINK I HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO SPEND ONLINE? I HAVE STOCKS INVESTMENT ON MY HAND, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS OF MORE IMPORTANCE TO ME? Everything i share is according to my encounters. I did have a very bad experience with one of my cosmetic surgeons. Can you pls show some courtesy even if you don't wish to believe it, you don't have to make so many ugly comments.

You are plainly making a digust of yourself. Aren't we living in a gracious society where simple respect would be appreciated. Like what you said, even Dr. Kim himself had several negative feedbacks, bt i don't see forumners getting so worked up on the negative feedback given, so why are you getting all worked up as i shared my experience about this annonymous doctor? I didn't even name him out ....

PALS YOU CAN BE GOING OVERBOARD IN YOUR REACTIONS.

I suggest you guys Take a break by watching Sesame Street.

I will have remove my original post if it's too distracting - stirring so much derogating emotions from you two and because i have received many hate mails from people i don't know.

After going through so much i think human being are capable of the worst horror and terror than the ghouls and vampires. Ren bi Gui Hai Ke Pa!

Hi Shiyun,

I dun wish to get involve in your personal exchanges with Kwell and astar.

After backing off from requesting for facts in earlier post, I decided that you have been rather irresponsible in your post for a few reasons:

1. You named surgeons, and repeatedly Martin Huang. Your reviews are inconsistent and here I have to agree with astar that you have in some ways defamed Martin Huang again...even though you named 3 surgeons it seems you were in fact not happy with the results from Dr. Martin Huang:

(See Kwell's post cos Shiyun edited her original post).

http://www.singaporeexpats.com/forum/ft ... -6855.html

2. This is a great thread where forummers are rooting for one another and providing information and sometimes personal photos to educate one another. I think you are doing the rest of us great injustice by complicating this thread with such seemingly defamatory posts.

3. Singapore, when it comes to security, is world class. Look up on your screen - it says Singapore Expat Forum. Many here are foreigners. Your post of criminal break in to your house is misleading and will caused false impression about our police force's ability to handle 'Mafia-like' intrusion/threats to civilians in our country. (the portrait here is THE famous surgeon VS mini-poor-you, a portrait of rich & famous who can do anything to the less affluent) This, we all know, is incorrect portrait of reality. Now, I am not saying you are lying but you need to make clarification. However, if you cannot produce proof (for whatever reason), you need to apologise to the forum for such portrait.

I am afraid cryptic comments about throwing away garbage views etc is not enough to carry on.

We all write behind nicks but it is not necessary to go this far. Many here, incl, myself, have good memory. We are not here to destroy anybody. But Shiyun, you need to be consistent cos most ppl here are very sincere souls who just want to be educated in PS.

rgds,
dmn

P.S. Jang/hello 84, I agree sometimes we should overlook mistakes of others cos we all make mistakes. I did, I let it go once. But to make mistakes repeatedly and then trying to senselessly blast those who spotted the mistakes - is irresponsible. It goes beyond being kind or forgiving. It become a fine line between justice and injustice.

Hi DMN,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the rest of us here and I must admit I share your sentiments wholeheartedly. However, I am beginning to be more convinced there might be a more pertinent serious problem (innate) that needs to be addressed prior to any further discussion(s). I believe it is really obvious to most if not all by now.

Cheers
kwell
PS:(why would one keep editing one's post especially one that is most relevant to the topic of discussion??? Go figure, guys !)

[DMN]

Hi DMN,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the rest of us here and I must admit I share your sentiments wholeheartedly. However, I am beginning to be more convinced there might be a more pertinent serious problem (innate) that needs to be addressed prior to any further discussion(s). I believe it is really obvious to most if not all by now.

Cheers
kwell
PS:(why would one keep editing one's post especially one that is most relevant to the topic of discussion??? Go figure, guys !)

Hi Kwell,

No problem at all. I am doing this for the forum, which I rcvd so much info and support. I suppose everyone set out to be the same.

Yes, I notice all posts which I quoted/question have been removed by Shiyun within minutes of my posts, except the apology to Dr. Martin Huang (cos legally she cannot do that.)

Now, if she would just acknowledge/apologise for seemingly defamatory posts and incorrect portrait of Singapore in a public forum, I think we can all forget the immature/illogical comments and move on. (Understand some are wondering abt the emotional stability....well, unless one is declared insane by law, the person is still liable/responsible for his/her words.)


Meanwhile, I am healing well and my nose has somewhat stop running. Whole face is still relatively swollen but already some frens (men lah) r going 'WHAT swell?'. I know at 24th day, my face will improve from here. Checking my schedules and will most likely in Sep be back in Seoul for 2nd round of fat graft to my forehead and temples. Let's see how my nose lengthens during now till then. Perhaps, I may also go for revision on my alar to cover my nostrils more - cos this was what I set out to do. If not then, maybe Dec.

Hope you are doing well with healing!

cheers,
dmn

[kwelll]

Hi DMN,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the rest of us here and I must admit I share your sentiments wholeheartedly. However, I am beginning to be more convinced there might be a more pertinent serious problem (innate) that needs to be addressed prior to any further discussion(s). I believe it is really obvious to most if not all by now.

Cheers
kwell
PS:(why would one keep editing one's post especially one that is most relevant to the topic of discussion??? Go figure, guys !)

Hi Kwell,

No problem at all. I am doing this for the forum, which I rcvd so much info and support. I suppose everyone set out to be the same.

Yes, I notice all posts which I quoted/question have been removed by Shiyun within minutes of my posts, except the apology to Dr. Martin Huang (cos legally she cannot do that.)

Now, if she would just acknowledge/apologise for seemingly defamatory posts and incorrect portrait of Singapore in a public forum, I think we can all forget the immature/illogical comments and move on. (Understand some are wondering abt the emotional stability....well, unless one is declared insane by law, the person is still liable/responsible for his/her words.)


Meanwhile, I am healing well and my nose has somewhat stop running. Whole face is still relatively swollen but already some frens (men lah) r going 'WHAT swell?'. I know at 24th day, my face will improve from here. Checking my schedules and will most likely in Sep be back in Seoul for 2nd round of fat graft to my forehead and temples. Let's see how my nose lengthens during now till then. Perhaps, I may also go for revision on my alar to cover my nostrils more - cos this was what I set out to do. If not then, maybe Dec.

Hope you are doing well with healing!

cheers,
dmn

Good on you DMN, not sure if running nose is common post rhinoplasty but know bleeding didn`t stop until the 3rd day for me!!! (LOL). I guess one can relate the mini swelling from the fat graft transfer, but everyone is different and this is certainly true for swelling! (nose was nothing but bulbous with no shape at all for a good 12 days!!!)

Regards to nostrils, if your alarsupra has been trimmed, then I tend to think there is not much one can do unless your tip lengthens significantly enough to conceal it with time. In my case, I might consider injectable fillers to lengthen the alar wings region (top) and bring it downwards thereby covering the nostrils completely. I dont think anymore trimming is going to help save my nostrils any time soon. LOL

As for my bridge, well... you know.... might as well use fillers to straighten the bridge so it looks nice and str* all angles.

Food for thought anyway.

PS: I might be in Korea again in Sep too.... cos got to hang out with my korean friend and his cool mum at ULSAN (North Korea). We met on the day of surgery and am a firm believer in fate that we became friends.

[foubelle]

DMN second fat graft! so fast! does that means that you have to shelve out another 1000plus dollars? OMG. have no idea that the fat is reabsorberd so fast. then maybe going to reconsider doing fat graft. butlike you said, implant is very uncomfortable so i dont know.

how's the nose right now?

[DMN]

DMN second fat graft! so fast! does that means that you have to shelve out another 1000plus dollars? OMG. have no idea that the fat is reabsorberd so fast. then maybe going to reconsider doing fat graft. butlike you said, implant is very uncomfortable so i dont know.

how's the nose right now?

Hi!

No lah, absorption is normal 40-60% is ok and one is supposed to do 2nd fill within 6 months as fats frozen will be best within 6 mths. Thus, Sep is ok as it is 3 mths for me. I am happy with my forehead and doing it in Sep may be better to keep the look.

I need only pay USD300 for 2nd and 3rd fills. Thus, cost is only for flight n 1 night accommodation. As I hv enuf miles to go round the world twice for all the crazy biz travel, my cost is only abt usd500 each time. Quite worthwhile for me and within what i was prepared to pay.

cheers,
dmn

[foubelle]

orh*nods*

thanks. hahas.then it probably wouldnt be a good choice for me. cos i rarely travel and tickets are rather expensive in my opinion.

does anyone in singapore(or maybe even malaysia: kalo) does that?

it would take around 3 times for it to be permanant right?

[DMN]

Good on you DMN, not sure if running nose is common post rhinoplasty but know bleeding didn`t stop until the 3rd day for me!!! (LOL). I guess one can relate the mini swelling from the fat graft transfer, but everyone is different and this is certainly true for swelling! (nose was nothing but bulbous with no shape at all for a good 12 days!!!)

Regards to nostrils, if your alarsupra has been trimmed, then I tend to think there is not much one can do unless your tip lengthens significantly enough to conceal it with time. In my case, I might consider injectable fillers to lengthen the alar wings region (top) and bring it downwards thereby covering the nostrils completely. I dont think anymore trimming is going to help save my nostrils any time soon. LOL

As for my bridge, well... you know.... might as well use fillers to straighten the bridge so it looks nice and str* all angles.

Food for thought anyway.

PS: I might be in Korea again in Sep too.... cos got to hang out with my korean friend and his cool mum at ULSAN (North Korea). We met on the day of surgery and am a firm believer in fate that we became friends.

Ok, understand yr frustration. My housemate did filler on her nose and it did not turn out straight and define at all.

I did not do alar trimming - did not want small nose at all. So still can extend my nostrils.

Ok, let's see when I can go to Seoul. It is likely going to be a Fri night flight and back in Singapore by Sunday.

cheers!

[astar]

GOD, i can't believe you woman.. as in ms chen shiyun

up till now, with all evidence working AGAINST you, you still have the gall to DENY everything? credit us with at least an ounce of intelligence can? and OBVIOUSLY, you have LOADS of time to spend online.. tats why u even bother to try to get attention by coming up with your dumpster worthy story. in fact, you have SOOOOO much time u even bothered to go back and edit all your past posts. this obviously shows that you have something to hide. DUH! grow some sense will ya?

and YEP! OF COURSE I'M ANGRY AND OF COURSE MY ANGER IS DIRECTED AT YOU!!! gosh, i'd think that is pretty obvious... but know WHY? cos your untrue comments can HURT ppl. and it has HAPPENED before and i was witness to it. in view of tat, i feel that its high time someone expose you before history repeats itself.

gosh.. u NEVER learn do you?? as irenea, you had to withdraw all your posts in the end and make a public apology and wat did you write in your apology?? you said "i assure that i would not do this again in future" so much for your assurance. like how UN-trustowrthy can you be? god..

and you are saying that wat? I'M making a disgust of myself? and that we live in a gracious society where simple respect is appreciated?? and oh oh.. wait.. wats tat? we're capable of the worst horror and terror than the ghouls and vampires?? HO-HUM! that line certainly takes the cake! PUH-LESE woman.. do me a favour, spare me the drama mama.. YOU are guilty of all THREE whereas I and THE REST are definitely not. we're simply stating facts and exposing a fraud like you to prevent others from being taken in by your lies! i'd prefer angels in your description of me rather than unsightly "ghouls and vampires", thank you very much.

actually, its pretty amusing the way you defend yourself. you claim that you didn't name your "annonymous" doctor... oh my!!! tats true isn't it! but wait a minute.. you didn't "name" your doctor because you've edited all your previous posts about him didn't you? ahhhh... but there are ppl who are always 10 steps ahead of you. DUH.. luckily we are smart enough to predict such a lousy move on your part and quoted you before you did such an immature thing. shocking isn't it? how smart forummers can be. still dare to weave more lies right in front of us.

and you know what? the ADULT (ha.. sesame street indeed!) way to handle this thing is to bravely admit your mistake, apologise and get on with your life: meaning no more coming back using another nick and weaving more lies. if you want to stay in this forum, sure! but pls give constructive advice or ask questions you genuinely want answered, not untrue statements designed to grab attention. Ppl like you will jus give a bad name to those forummers who really wanted to help.

just look at those ppl who offered you their sympathy when they heard about your supposed break in. these ppl truly felt bad for you and wanted to help you in any little way they can even though all they can offer are words of consolation and encouragement but you on the other hand, are jus fooling around with them. now fooling around with the feelings of others, well... thats jus plain evil.

n abt your bf, if he did indeed left you cos he's going for gals with looks, then he's a jerk but judging from your behaviour, don't u tink its perhaps your ATTITUDE and CHARACTER that blew him off? i'm no relationship expert but i do knoe enough to tell you that not everyone goes for looks. it IS true when they say character is what ultimately counts. looks might work for the initial attraction n add to your charm but what keeps 'em wanting more is your attitude and character.. your zest for life n a good sense of humour.. your confidence and an ability to laugh at yourself.. n most importantly, the courage to admit your mistake when you're wrong n the discipline to hold your tongue from saying "i told you so" when others admit theirs. such is the beauty of truly beautiful n wondrous ppl.

the same goes for frenships as well. if u ever want to have real and fulfilling relationships with ppl, i suggest you keep that in mind. i'm telling you this because i truly believe that you have a psychological prob you need to get fixed.

you're 26, 5 years older than i am and just 1 yr younger than a fren of mine who has become a mother. should you not learn what is right and what is wrong by now? if u haven't then you really have lived your past 26 years in vain and guess what? now that i've vented all my frustration, i am not angry with you anymore. in fact, its worse. i feel sorry for you, for someone who is not only a coward who lives in history and hides behind the safe annonymity of cyberworld, but also an attention seeker who craves attention so much she doesn't care who she hurts. now, tats jus a sorry existence.

to the rest, i am SO sorry to flood again. i was feeling rather indignant and couldn't resist replying.

[babyk]

Now that everyone has vented & revealed the truth through quotes & previous postings, lets move on. It seems to me this person has lied & whatnot, & nothing we can really do about it. We can certainly ignore her postings & now that you guys have informed everyone, they should all get the same idea.

[harajukugirl]

DMN second fat graft! so fast! does that means that you have to shelve out another 1000plus dollars? OMG. have no idea that the fat is reabsorberd so fast. then maybe going to reconsider doing fat graft. butlike you said, implant is very uncomfortable so i dont know.

how's the nose right now?

hi foubelle n DMN! i'm also considering doing forehead implant, and have learned much for the discussions that u guys had in this forum.. thanks for sharing!

for me i don't think i can do fat graft because like foubelle, i don't have any frequent flyer miles either n the tix will be quite expensive for me.. u guys mentioned that implant is very uncomfortable, but can i know more details abt the discomfort? does it mean that u will keep feeling the implant in ur forehead or it'll be painful in the long term?

thanks gals!

[insecure]

I'm seeking information on a "controvertial" procedure where the jawbone is filed down or shaved to give a more chissled look. I'm from Canada and it is very hard to find information on the subject. If anyone has any knowlege of this or where I can get information on the subject it would really help me out. thank you

[leenaaaa]

The scar gel I used is called SCARIDGEL and it was prescribed by Dr Kim. I got it from the pharmacy I think =)

What kind of scar creme & where in Korea do you get it from?

As for me, I haven't been using any scar cream. I am going au naturale lol. I am now interested in this Korean cream though