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Postby leenaaaa » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:58 am

I'm just wondering if anyone who is going to Korea soon would be kind enough to help me buy scar cream from there? I would really appreciate it =) Incentive... lunch on me! Hehe =)

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Postby babyk » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:22 am

What kind of scar creme & where in Korea do you get it from?

As for me, I haven't been using any scar cream. I am going au naturale lol. I am now interested in this Korean cream though :wink:

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Postby babyk » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:02 pm

I know we are supposed to take Sinecch before surgery but can we take Sinecch a month after surgery if we are still swollen? Has anyone did that & had it work later? Thanks :wink:

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Postby bnov » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 2:26 pm

DMN wrote:
usernameblah wrote:how much did you charge on your card for surgery?


USD7750. let dr. Jung know you r from this forum. on nose, his prices r fixed, but on others procedures, u'll get good discounts.

If u r staying at his apartment, pls bring yr own towels. the room can be quite hot cos air-con is not strong. but for me, my 1st priority is to be near the clinic.

dun forget stuff like dry shampoo cos it is tough to wash yr hair 1st 3 days without wetting the wounds. the recep of his clinic can order food for you if u cannot get out of the building during the 1st 3 days.

other toiletries (such as cotton bud for cleaning) u can buy just right across the road beside FedEx and Burger King. There are supermkts. A nice bakery (yummy cheese cakes and sandwiches), nail palour, and Starbucks is juz downstairs of the building. Hawkers selling fruits is on left of main road. I brought tonic and cooked my own food from day 3 onwarrds.

i kept drinking green tea, organic honey and gallions of water - it helps cos my scars are really not visible today (8th day)!

i cld tap into wirless internet while there. did my work and kept my sanity. :P

their cleaner only speaks korean n she can be quite 'lazy'...tried using sign language to make her clean the toilets, and other areas.

IF you really cannot take minimal accommodation, try http://www.coatel.co.kr/english/home/home.html dr. Jung's office can book it at cheaper rate of KRW 90,000/nite (before taxes) for studio room. i cld see coatel's building from the apartment thus is shld be abt 10-15 min walk.

dr Jung's secretary arranged for aiport pickup which they pre-paid. i paid KRW60,000 for my cab on return to Incheon airport.

yeah, bring Sinnech, dr. Jung allows it with his medications.

good luck :-)



Hi DMN,

I've called Dr Jung office to try to set up a consultantion appt and get more info but can't get anyone on phone who spoke english well. Do you have direct contact info? Or what I need to do to get started? I'm hoping to have surgery in Dec.

Thanks

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Postby Pinkyice » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 3:24 pm

Shiyun wrote:Pals, do be realistic and don't get discouraged! :)

Gossips exist even for very successful surgeries. :roll:

Look at Dawn Yeo in Singapore, she had transformed into a beauty progressively, but look at the comments hurled across daily!
There are many speculations about this significant change , all attributing her undergoing plastic surgery.

Take it easy, people will say anything about almost every one. You decide your life, not people's comments . Focus on your goals, forget about opinions matter, get rid of the discouragement and weed out uncontructive thoughts to your life.

Be realistic to yourself, you will be able to accept situations, knowing what to keep and what's garabge to maintain your goals.


I think most ppl don't have a problem with Dawn having plastic surgery, they have a problem with her lying about not having plastic surgery.
Of course, it's her prerogative to lie if she so wants to, and so it's theirs to say what they want to :)
It's one thing to have plastic surgery and other to have plastic and lie about not having it.
No doubt I won't go around telling ppl that I have had plastic but I won't lie about not having it done either. If a person ask me point blank if I have had plastic and I don't feel like answering, I will say nothing or "Think whatever u want to."
My 2 cents.

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Postby kwelll » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 5:51 pm

Pinkyice wrote:
Shiyun wrote:Pals, do be realistic and don't get discouraged! :)

Gossips exist even for very successful surgeries. :roll:

Look at Dawn Yeo in Singapore, she had transformed into a beauty progressively, but look at the comments hurled across daily!
There are many speculations about this significant change , all attributing her undergoing plastic surgery.

Take it easy, people will say anything about almost every one. You decide your life, not people's comments . Focus on your goals, forget about opinions matter, get rid of the discouragement and weed out uncontructive thoughts to your life.

Be realistic to yourself, you will be able to accept situations, knowing what to keep and what's garabge to maintain your goals.


I think most ppl don't have a problem with Dawn having plastic surgery, they have a problem with her lying about not having plastic surgery.
Of course, it's her prerogative to lie if she so wants to, and so it's theirs to say what they want to :)
It's one thing to have plastic surgery and other to have plastic and lie about not having it.
No doubt I won't go around telling ppl that I have had plastic but I won't lie about not having it done either. If a person ask me point blank if I have had plastic and I don't feel like answering, I will say nothing or "Think whatever u want to."
My 2 cents.


RIGHT! Like Don`t ask, Don` tell attitude !

Dawn? I wish she could lie better if she had a mirror in her hand !!!!

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Postby kwelll » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 5:58 pm

bnov wrote:
DMN wrote:
usernameblah wrote:how much did you charge on your card for surgery?


USD7750. let dr. Jung know you r from this forum. on nose, his prices r fixed, but on others procedures, u'll get good discounts.

If u r staying at his apartment, pls bring yr own towels. the room can be quite hot cos air-con is not strong. but for me, my 1st priority is to be near the clinic.

dun forget stuff like dry shampoo cos it is tough to wash yr hair 1st 3 days without wetting the wounds. the recep of his clinic can order food for you if u cannot get out of the building during the 1st 3 days.

other toiletries (such as cotton bud for cleaning) u can buy just right across the road beside FedEx and Burger King. There are supermkts. A nice bakery (yummy cheese cakes and sandwiches), nail palour, and Starbucks is juz downstairs of the building. Hawkers selling fruits is on left of main road. I brought tonic and cooked my own food from day 3 onwarrds.

i kept drinking green tea, organic honey and gallions of water - it helps cos my scars are really not visible today (8th day)!

i cld tap into wirless internet while there. did my work and kept my sanity. :P

their cleaner only speaks korean n she can be quite 'lazy'...tried using sign language to make her clean the toilets, and other areas.

IF you really cannot take minimal accommodation, try http://www.coatel.co.kr/english/home/home.html dr. Jung's office can book it at cheaper rate of KRW 90,000/nite (before taxes) for studio room. i cld see coatel's building from the apartment thus is shld be abt 10-15 min walk.

dr Jung's secretary arranged for aiport pickup which they pre-paid. i paid KRW60,000 for my cab on return to Incheon airport.

yeah, bring Sinnech, dr. Jung allows it with his medications.

good luck :-)



Hi DMN,

I've called Dr Jung office to try to set up a consultantion appt and get more info but can't get anyone on phone who spoke english well. Do you have direct contact info? Or what I need to do to get started? I'm hoping to have surgery in Dec.

Thanks


Hi,

First of all, it is really fuss free - so chill out ! Skip the staff, they can`t help themselves most times, friendly people but rather chaotic and most wont be of any help to you spoken wise. Ginny is probably the best there but she is a surgical stuff there and knows me quite well.

Easy starters:

Email them your proposed date of arrival (so can arrange pick-up) and possibly reserve one of two rooms on 6th floor.

Know exactly what you want corrected and be PRECISE ! Dr Jung sees patients daily and you really dont want a "standard" nose job !!

Chill out and let the staff do their thing with you. Before I knew it, I was out of the operating room, totally dazed and still trying to fight the GA by walking around only to get up in the doctors room with nurses AND patients helping me back into my room!! OMG ! So pai sey now

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Postby Perline » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 7:48 pm

leenaaaa wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone who is going to Korea soon would be kind enough to help me buy scar cream from there? I would really appreciate it =) Incentive... lunch on me! Hehe =)


I'm going to Seoul this 20 July. Probably u wanna tell where to get the cream from?

Anyone know where to get Sinecch? Could we get it from pharmacy without doctor's prescription? When to take Sinecch? Before or after surgery? Quite confused...

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Postby babyk » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 8:20 pm

Which clinic will you be visiting in Korea? Possibly they may offer it to you on the day of surgery. :D

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Postby bnov » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 8:34 pm

kwelll wrote:
bnov wrote:
DMN wrote:
usernameblah wrote:how much did you charge on your card for surgery?


USD7750. let dr. Jung know you r from this forum. on nose, his prices r fixed, but on others procedures, u'll get good discounts.

If u r staying at his apartment, pls bring yr own towels. the room can be quite hot cos air-con is not strong. but for me, my 1st priority is to be near the clinic.

dun forget stuff like dry shampoo cos it is tough to wash yr hair 1st 3 days without wetting the wounds. the recep of his clinic can order food for you if u cannot get out of the building during the 1st 3 days.

other toiletries (such as cotton bud for cleaning) u can buy just right across the road beside FedEx and Burger King. There are supermkts. A nice bakery (yummy cheese cakes and sandwiches), nail palour, and Starbucks is juz downstairs of the building. Hawkers selling fruits is on left of main road. I brought tonic and cooked my own food from day 3 onwarrds.

i kept drinking green tea, organic honey and gallions of water - it helps cos my scars are really not visible today (8th day)!

i cld tap into wirless internet while there. did my work and kept my sanity. :P

their cleaner only speaks korean n she can be quite 'lazy'...tried using sign language to make her clean the toilets, and other areas.

IF you really cannot take minimal accommodation, try http://www.coatel.co.kr/english/home/home.html dr. Jung's office can book it at cheaper rate of KRW 90,000/nite (before taxes) for studio room. i cld see coatel's building from the apartment thus is shld be abt 10-15 min walk.

dr Jung's secretary arranged for aiport pickup which they pre-paid. i paid KRW60,000 for my cab on return to Incheon airport.

yeah, bring Sinnech, dr. Jung allows it with his medications.

good luck :-)



Hi DMN,

I've called Dr Jung office to try to set up a consultantion appt and get more info but can't get anyone on phone who spoke english well. Do you have direct contact info? Or what I need to do to get started? I'm hoping to have surgery in Dec.

Thanks


Hi,

First of all, it is really fuss free - so chill out ! Skip the staff, they can`t help themselves most times, friendly people but rather chaotic and most wont be of any help to you spoken wise. Ginny is probably the best there but she is a surgical stuff there and knows me quite well.

Easy starters:

Email them your proposed date of arrival (so can arrange pick-up) and possibly reserve one of two rooms on 6th floor.

Know exactly what you want corrected and be PRECISE ! Dr Jung sees patients daily and you really dont want a "standard" nose job !!

Chill out and let the staff do their thing with you. Before I knew it, I was out of the operating room, totally dazed and still trying to fight the GA by walking around only to get up in the doctors room with nurses AND patients helping me back into my room!! OMG ! So pai sey now


Hi,

Thanks for the tip. Is is the email you hav for them: rhinojdh@hotmail.com.

BTW, how much time should I take off for work, 2 wks?

Cheers

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Postby kwelll » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 8:51 pm

bnov wrote:
kwelll wrote:
bnov wrote:
DMN wrote:
usernameblah wrote:how much did you charge on your card for surgery?


USD7750. let dr. Jung know you r from this forum. on nose, his prices r fixed, but on others procedures, u'll get good discounts.

If u r staying at his apartment, pls bring yr own towels. the room can be quite hot cos air-con is not strong. but for me, my 1st priority is to be near the clinic.

dun forget stuff like dry shampoo cos it is tough to wash yr hair 1st 3 days without wetting the wounds. the recep of his clinic can order food for you if u cannot get out of the building during the 1st 3 days.

other toiletries (such as cotton bud for cleaning) u can buy just right across the road beside FedEx and Burger King. There are supermkts. A nice bakery (yummy cheese cakes and sandwiches), nail palour, and Starbucks is juz downstairs of the building. Hawkers selling fruits is on left of main road. I brought tonic and cooked my own food from day 3 onwarrds.

i kept drinking green tea, organic honey and gallions of water - it helps cos my scars are really not visible today (8th day)!

i cld tap into wirless internet while there. did my work and kept my sanity. :P

their cleaner only speaks korean n she can be quite 'lazy'...tried using sign language to make her clean the toilets, and other areas.

IF you really cannot take minimal accommodation, try http://www.coatel.co.kr/english/home/home.html dr. Jung's office can book it at cheaper rate of KRW 90,000/nite (before taxes) for studio room. i cld see coatel's building from the apartment thus is shld be abt 10-15 min walk.

dr Jung's secretary arranged for aiport pickup which they pre-paid. i paid KRW60,000 for my cab on return to Incheon airport.

yeah, bring Sinnech, dr. Jung allows it with his medications.

good luck :-)



Hi DMN,

I've called Dr Jung office to try to set up a consultantion appt and get more info but can't get anyone on phone who spoke english well. Do you have direct contact info? Or what I need to do to get started? I'm hoping to have surgery in Dec.

Thanks


Hi,

First of all, it is really fuss free - so chill out ! Skip the staff, they can`t help themselves most times, friendly people but rather chaotic and most wont be of any help to you spoken wise. Ginny is probably the best there but she is a surgical stuff there and knows me quite well.

Easy starters:

Email them your proposed date of arrival (so can arrange pick-up) and possibly reserve one of two rooms on 6th floor.

Know exactly what you want corrected and be PRECISE ! Dr Jung sees patients daily and you really dont want a "standard" nose job !!

Chill out and let the staff do their thing with you. Before I knew it, I was out of the operating room, totally dazed and still trying to fight the GA by walking around only to get up in the doctors room with nurses AND patients helping me back into my room!! OMG ! So pai sey now


Hi,

Thanks for the tip. Is is the email you hav for them: rhinojdh@hotmail.com.

BTW, how much time should I take off for work, 2 wks?

Cheers


Well ... you`ll get a response from Dr Jung himself IF you`re lucky cos he is always on the move (in & out of operations) & lecturing etc. But he is in the office most times (gosh this man works 24/7- a trade off for his bank account who minds, do you??).

GIST:

He writes simple short sentences only - no time for long extended sentences anyway. Best is to talk with him face to face. His basic tool for communication is sharing (Or exchanging) of 'before & after' photos and YOU have a duty to TELL him what EXACTLY you like, and more importantly, NOT like! I know PS surgeons do get quite standardized after awhile!!! Cookie cutter nose, anyone ??

TIME OFF WORK:

You would require at least 10 days to look presentable enough (still varies from person to person depending on level of swelling and bruising etc) BUT your nose tip will look BULBOUS and the sides uneven for a good 2 weeks or so. It should be quite alright to come home after the 10th day (6-7th remove stitches) and the rest is just TIME for the nose to settle down !!! (I hate this ) My korean friends' noses look very presentable with minimal swelling after the 6th day!!! (wow) - mine still looks too rounded from the front (how can anyone live with a rounded nose?? goes to show the nose is central to a person's facial appearance) so time is my only remedy for now (fingers crossed). It doesnt help when you`re more experienced as things can get quite predictable, which may spoil the "fun" for some. Guess one has to go through this stage....:)

FOOD:

Bring your own the best! Kimchi, eggs and instant noodles with fresh tomatoes have been my daily affair for the last 7-10 days!!! Korean food looks and tastes the same unfortunately!!! Prefer JAP anytime !! Glad I met a local guy with his lovely mum on the 1st day of Op and we just clicked right away - they brought me to some celebrated local eating outlet where I had the most mouth watering steamed belly pork (most popular there) with Kimchi, barley, pumkin soup (great for deswelling I understand), Korean pan cake etc! Not bad for a night out LoL

IF you are going to be with a partner; there is a lovely residence apartment (hotel type style) which I used, absolutely pleasant and self contained so you can prepare your meals as you please. I`ll be going there again end of this month.

Any questions, just ask !

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Postby who » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:38 pm

sorry to hear all the problems that people have had with postop...

oh... a cast is worn for a nose job when goretex is used.... a heavy duty cast is used when the nose needs to be broken in some way. So, Caucasian people (France, US) will usually have to wear a cast because they are shaving a hump down.

oh... about the scar cream... I've read on a surgery website, that the doctor will give one moisturizing/ antibiotic cream... but mederma, etc should not be used... I don't think it would hurt if you use it... but please check with your doctor when you can!

ok... I hope everyone heals well...

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Postby i's » Fri, 13 Jul 2007 3:45 am

Good luck with healing everyone,
You should take sinnech before, anything eariler is better, it gets your body prepared.


Hi leenaaaa, thank you very much for letting me know. I hope everything works out for you. I don't know when or if I will be going to korea, it's either korea or japan for me. But if I go, and you still need, I will let you know.

I am concerned, though cuz I am considering Dr. Kim from Bk, and I read that he did your original eyelid surgery? I don't mind low creases, I just worry about the symmetry and natural ness. Do you think your original surgery accomplished that, the symmetry and naturalness? And how were the creases from Dr. Kim, were they clean and smooth, or noticeable scarring and raised and not smooth? (I know for medi epi this migh be different , when you said scarring from old bleph you were referring to he med epi right?)

Thank you so much for considering these questions, I really appreciate your help. I Just don't know who else to go to in asia for eyelids, all of I've heard of good results are from Dr. Park, Dr. Kim and Migo clinic.....

Take care and please keep us posted on your healing progress. It takes time, but right now it's just a waiting game.

Hi candall, thank you so much for your help, That would be great if you find the site...I don't read mandarin, eventhough technically I should be able to after like 4 yrs of mandarin and being chinese...ughhh, I am such a slacker. Anyways, My mom could read for me, so could my dad, so yes i would be wonderful if you could find the site. Thank you!

Take care everyone

i's :)

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Postby astar » Fri, 13 Jul 2007 5:04 am

shiyun, i read about your story about legal issues and someone breaking into your house etc.. erm.. no offense but if i'm not mistaken, i rem you once joined this exact forum and commented a lot in this thread using the name ireana or something liddat.. i recognised you from the pictures you posted. in your posts under ireana's name, u made a lot of unfavourable comments about dr m huang and in the end, u had to take away all your posts and issue an apology note to dr martin huang for defaming him or something.. also, i rem a forummer who just went to dr m huang for surgery during that period and despite her posts on how afraid she was during her recovery period because of all the comments u made, you were relentless in your pursue for "justice".. scaring her further n irritating a lot of forummers during that period of time.

and i refer to your post in may27 whereby you again apologise to dr martin huang for making a mistake and you further recommend him to other forumers in your post in 8 june. but in july, you mentioned again the sob story about your failed surgery with dr martin huang??

pls try to get your story straight.. did dr m huang make a mistake or not? i dun tink ppl who are genuinely interested in going for surgery will appreciate posts like these... i dunno abt others but in my humble opinion, you are jus a person who's desperate for attention. really desperate. if you have issues regarding your self esteem, i'd suggest u visit a counsellor. what ppl are looking for in this forum are true opinions on a doctor's skills to help them make informed decisions.

i'd suggest you stop playing around with ppl's feelings and get a life. the doc you are slandering happens to be a v famous doctor. now i know famous docs may not be all that great but he may be a doctor with fantastic skills too! and your comments may result in forummers who are interested in getting PS in singapore turn to other docs in singapore who may not be as competent as dr huang. pls do not harm others jus because of your thirst for attention

i had my suspicions about you the moment i read e post on that big sob story of yours. if you really have not done any surgeries before, pls do not try to act as though you have and dish out advices based on your own "experiences" and mislead ppl. i don't fully understand your reasons for such childish behaviour but i hope you can grow up and out of it and stop this nonsense. perhaps your aim here is to make frens? i dunno.. but frenships are based on hoensty and trust. so if your aim is really to make frens, you have already taken the wrong first step.

of course, IF however, i've accused you wrongly and dr m huang did do you grave injustice, i'd like to say that i'm most sorry in advance. pls accept my sincere apologies for my rash behavious and my poor judgement. but i mean IF. because i simply cannot understand why you'd defame dr huang a year ago and issue an apology and return using another nickname and do the SAME thing all over again.

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Postby kwelll » Fri, 13 Jul 2007 8:51 am

astar wrote:shiyun, i read about your story about legal issues and someone breaking into your house etc.. erm.. no offense but if i'm not mistaken, i rem you once joined this exact forum and commented a lot in this thread using the name ireana or something liddat.. i recognised you from the pictures you posted. in your posts under ireana's name, u made a lot of unfavourable comments about dr m huang and in the end, u had to take away all your posts and issue an apology note to dr martin huang for defaming him or something.. also, i rem a forummer who just went to dr m huang for surgery during that period and despite her posts on how afraid she was during her recovery period because of all the comments u made, you were relentless in your pursue for "justice".. scaring her further n irritating a lot of forummers during that period of time.

and i refer to your post in may27 whereby you again apologise to dr martin huang for making a mistake and you further recommend him to other forumers in your post in 8 june. but in july, you mentioned again the sob story about your failed surgery with dr martin huang??

pls try to get your story straight.. did dr m huang make a mistake or not? i dun tink ppl who are genuinely interested in going for surgery will appreciate posts like these... i dunno abt others but in my humble opinion, you are jus a person who's desperate for attention. really desperate. if you have issues regarding your self esteem, i'd suggest u visit a counsellor. what ppl are looking for in this forum are true opinions on a doctor's skills to help them make informed decisions.

i'd suggest you stop playing around with ppl's feelings and get a life. the doc you are slandering happens to be a v famous doctor. now i know famous docs may not be all that great but he may be a doctor with fantastic skills too! and your comments may result in forummers who are interested in getting PS in singapore turn to other docs in singapore who may not be as competent as dr huang. pls do not harm others jus because of your thirst for attention

i had my suspicions about you the moment i read e post on that big sob story of yours. if you really have not done any surgeries before, pls do not try to act as though you have and dish out advices based on your own "experiences" and mislead ppl. i don't fully understand your reasons for such childish behaviour but i hope you can grow up and out of it and stop this nonsense. perhaps your aim here is to make frens? i dunno.. but frenships are based on hoensty and trust. so if your aim is really to make frens, you have already taken the wrong first step.

of course, IF however, i've accused you wrongly and dr m huang did do you grave injustice, i'd like to say that i'm most sorry in advance. pls accept my sincere apologies for my rash behavious and my poor judgement. but i mean IF. because i simply cannot understand why you'd defame dr huang a year ago and issue an apology and return using another nickname and do the SAME thing all over again.


I thought so, too! Agreed!

Could Shiyun please clarify this? Silence is not always golden, remember! Other forum users or people interested in PS
deserve our sincere efforts to work with them so that they might also enjoy
the pleasures of the same, avoiding pit falls and the rest of it. I for one dislike making sweeping conclusions on any topic of interest as there are always exceptions (most), and one has to look at the issue in question in different perspectives in order to make a rational and informed decision based on YOUR own judgment and deal with it.

However, I too understand (but do not agree) "most" humans must find it painful to think as they
are slow to learn, or indeed incapable of diverging from "the crowd"
opinion.


The moral of the story, perhaps, then is when "most people" seem to believe
something - that's the time to question it most vigorously and make it meet
the requirements of logic and fact before accepting it as your own. Ha, I
wish! Cosmetic enhancements are what we do for ourselves; another channel to make ourselves feel and act better in reality, if it does the things one set out to do, I don`t see how or why it should hurt anyone. Its my money and I spend it my way the way I see it without ill feelings towards others - this is how I see it anyway.

Any takers?


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