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Re: Hi

Postby ocean11 » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:51 am

Kwell,

Who did shared her before and after nose photo on this forum a few weeks ago and yes, it done by Dr Chuang.. don ask me which page, i cannot rem.. hehe..

kwelll wrote:
who wrote:kalyn,

If your nose has a silicone implant, the nose splint serves no purpose.
The silicone will not need to stabilize in shape (silicone stays in the same shape regar... although patients need to sleep on their backs for two weeks so it stabilizes at the correct position.

babyk,

yea... I got an L... and I can only see flesh up my nose... are you sure it is silicone? If so, yea... go get it repositioned!

oh, and I wanted to clarify the characteristics of silicone. It should not change the color of your nose. There are different grades of silicone. It should never be obvious after a few years. If this happens, it is due to low quality silicone, wrong size selectment of silicone, or bad placement.
Dr. Chuang told me that if your original bridge is narrow, generally, you can only add 3 mm with silicone. If it is wider than 5, and even wider 7. If you want a whole lot of increase but nose bridge is too narrow, MUST use goretex, according to Dr. Chuang. Or else down the road, after some years, implant will be obvious under some lights.
Also L implant should be placed under the cartilage, this reduces chance of mobility down the road. Mobility and extrusion (with asians) is almost always due to the skill of the surgeon.
L implant also does not make sharp sharp nose. I've seen before and after pics of L from Dr. Chuang. It does not necessarily mean sharp sharp nose. Besides, sharp sharp nose actually ages a face.

After 3 months, you can move nose tip side to side, but piggy nose with L silicone will cause a slight painful sensation.

Basically, silicone should last forever without looking obvious or change color overtime if the silicone size, grade and placement is correct.


So much on Dr Chuang, I have received only a standard reply from him regarding rhinoplasty. Has anyone actually had any surgery by him and would be too happy to share your success story with us? Pity his website is in mandarine without any photos of his work (due to privacy reasons?). I still believe a picture speaks a thousand words.

Any takers?

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Postby clutzyshell » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 4:08 am

I will be doing a nose surgery later on (after I graduate from college in 5 years)

However, I want to get my eyelids done during the winter vacation which is a month for United states students.

Does anyone know of any EXCELLENT and EXPERIENCED new york plastic surgeon in the city?
- I know its important to go to the best and money shouldn't be an option, but if I went to korea for like a week and get the surgery done, it would cost me 4000-5000. I will splurge for my nose surgery, but I have heard that there are good asian, plastic surgeons in nyc that do the eyelid surgeries very well.

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Hi

Postby kwelll » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 7:20 am

who wrote:kwell,

ugh... there are pics posted here from Dr. Chuang. Angeluv posted hers.... Imjase also... and if you go further back in the forum, there are even more.

mine are at:
www.winkiss.blogspot.com

Mine according to a lot of people isn't too much change cuz I just did the tip and got implant. But, I think it's quite a change.. but whatever.

ocean11:
yea... tip is deswelling slowly. blah!

I'm sorry to hear your bad experience with silicone. May I ask if you did open or closed rhino with the silicone?


Hi there!

Thanks for your link. I think your original nose is not bad at all, it is fleshy at the tip without being bulbous, nostrils not overly exposed, and all you needed was heightened the bridge which was lacking. Your nose is still feminine and suits your face (from what I can gather albeit plastered). Good for you !

PS

Anyone used Gortex instead?

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Postby chixie » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:56 am

Went to see an asethetic doctor today.Wanted to found out if there is any other way to get a bettter looking nose without rhino. :P

Doctor suggested aquamid filler.It is permanant and have very slight side effects.He did mention that i have a bulbous nose, so with the filler i will be able to look much better(more 3-D lah).The filler will give me a higher bridge(i dun any!!!)thus resulting my face lookin much better than before.it cost abt $1900 for 2ml.(isit ??)

Jux askin for some opinion:

1.will it be feasible if i went for a simple alar reduction procedure then went for a filler jab to get the bridge?? According to him, it is harder to injure or get the nose bridge being pushed due to the fact that it is not an implant but a liquid form in ur nose.

2.wat the difference bet aquamid and hydro-something which is another filer.

thanks everyone! :wink:

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Postby zov » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:02 am

freesia,
I only did simple implant with him and actually wanted to re-do for a sharper looking nose but he advise me not too as I will look too fake which I do agree..I'm not so sure if he can do what you ask for.Do go and consult him :D

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Postby ocean11 » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:03 am

mine was close method, some of them are open method.. one of my friend got scar!! :o i very scar mine will have.. siao liao..
i think ur one will heal faster then me.. cos u nvr put ear cartilage on ur tip, now my tip still numb and hard.. :roll:

but WHo, i like dr chuang said about place the silicone under the cartilage, i think that should be the way and will have less prob.. but still who can guarantee.


who wrote:kwell,

ugh... there are pics posted here from Dr. Chuang. Angeluv posted hers.... Imjase also... and if you go further back in the forum, there are even more.

mine are at:
www.winkiss.blogspot.com

Mine according to a lot of people isn't too much change cuz I just did the tip and got implant. But, I think it's quite a change.. but whatever.

ocean11:
yea... tip is deswelling slowly. blah!

I'm sorry to hear your bad experience with silicone. May I ask if you did open or closed rhino with the silicone?

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Postby kwelll » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:56 am

freesia wrote:Hi Kwell & Zov

Thank you for your reply, i did plastic surgery 2 times in sin, eyelid surgery w/ dr harry fok n alar reduction w/ dr chan chi chin ( dr chan don't want to give sedation, scary :shock: , i'm awake during the op), the result is quite good but i want to make my nose slimmer n sharper.
Zov, can i know what kind of nose surgey you have done w/ dr seah? is dr seah good in alar reduction n cartilage graft to make the tip sharper?
I'm staying in jakarta, singapore is near, don't feel to go to taiwan or korea, too far. i'll fly to sin to consult w/ the dr seah n fong :lol:


Yes, feesia !

It makes sense for an Indonesian to have surgery in SG. As mentioned, alar base trimming is very simple and stitches come off in a matter of 4-5 days- there is very little (if any) bruising.

Dr Seah is a lovely person, rather charming and polite so it helps. But I know he is a conservative surgeon meaning he would NOT agree with whatever you want corrected unless he thinks it's OK (or its within his skills I reckon). I consulted him 5 years ago about brightening my eyelids but he said I had lovely lids, brow too close to eye socket so hard to achieve what I envisaged & the rest of it (polite rejection). Nice man but I left feeling quite cold.

3 months later, I went to another doctor in one major bangkok hospital who specialises in eye beautifying (haha) and WHALAU .... stunningly well sculpted eyes that was exactly what I wanted and still is. I look a million dollars within 2 weeks!!! Girls were all over me that I had trouble sleeping ! (lol) - so do NOT simply take a doctor's word, go for 2nd or 3rd opinion- its artistic-medicine we`re taking about!!

Dr Fong is another pleasant person (no, I do not work for him) and he is a faithful Buddhist so no hanky panky work. He spends good time with each patient and more importantly LISTENS to them and share his thoughts with you, never over bearing know it all sort. His fees are reasonable but since he moved to TTS hospital, owning to increase expenses etc, it has sky rocketed unfortunately. But at least he is doing alright - so I heard.

No one doctor does everything exceptionally well, but one thing is for sure, the doctor must be ARTISTIC with good eye for beauty and harmony, NOT just another surgeon doing nips and tucks ! Cosmetic surgery they call it, my dear .

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Postby kwelll » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:05 pm

chixie wrote:Went to see an asethetic doctor today.Wanted to found out if there is any other way to get a bettter looking nose without rhino. :P

Doctor suggested aquamid filler.It is permanant and have very slight side effects.He did mention that i have a bulbous nose, so with the filler i will be able to look much better(more 3-D lah).The filler will give me a higher bridge(i dun any!!!)thus resulting my face lookin much better than before.it cost abt $1900 for 2ml.(isit ??)

Jux askin for some opinion:

1.will it be feasible if i went for a simple alar reduction procedure then went for a filler jab to get the bridge?? According to him, it is harder to injure or get the nose bridge being pushed due to the fact that it is not an implant but a liquid form in ur nose.

2.wat the difference bet aquamid and hydro-something which is another filer.

thanks everyone! :wink:


Right, interesting topic. Fillers do augment nose bridges and cheeks etc to an extent but it is not always uniform meaning the result is not as smooth as say an implant (liquid changes) You dont want those bumps and lumps which can happen (if doctor is honest will tell u so) when injected - very skill requiring and do not last long enough in my view. Have had it injected on my chin but did not crave over it - it disappeared (reabsorbed) within 4 weeks as opposed to 4-6 months !!! Touch-ups cost me but the results were not fulfilling enough - so no good. Great for grooves and lip augmentation (small areas) but certainly not for large augmentation work.

For $1,900 you are better off getting an implant that lasts a lifetime (hope so).

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Postby kalyn » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 1:39 pm

who wrote:kalyn,

If your nose has a silicone implant, the nose splint serves no purpose.
The silicone will not need to stabilize in shape (silicone stays in the same shape regar... although patients need to sleep on their backs for two weeks so it stabilizes at the correct position.



I see, oh no! I've been sleeping on the sides just three days after the surgery. And I don't know how to see if it is crooked or even if there's a changing of color. I even tried to check if my silicone is in place but I don't know where is it placed. :lol: All I know is that my nose is so big and swollen. :shock:

On regards of silicone changing its color in certain lightings, I'd discussed with Dr. Chuang before too in consideration of silicone or goretex use. He told me that my skin texture is pretty thick >.> and that I should not worry about silicone showing itself or changing the color. So I believe it really has to depend on individual's skin texture.

Also, if your skin texture is thicker than others, it also take longer for your swell to subside (for my case) so no choice. gotta be patient! :-|

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Postby kalyn » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 1:55 pm

kwelll wrote:Right, interesting topic. Fillers do augment nose bridges and cheeks etc to an extent but it is not always uniform meaning the result is not as smooth as say an implant (liquid changes) You dont want those bumps and lumps which can happen (if doctor is honest will tell u so) when injected - very skill requiring and do not last long enough in my view. Have had it injected on my chin but did not crave over it - it disappeared (reabsorbed) within 4 weeks as opposed to 4-6 months !!! Touch-ups cost me but the results were not fulfilling enough - so no good. Great for grooves and lip augmentation (small areas) but certainly not for large augmentation work.

For $1,900 you are better off getting an implant that lasts a lifetime (hope so).


I agree with Kwell. I'm currently injecting fillers on lower lids, which helps in my dark circles. I do not personally recommend it, at least for my case. It does not really help in my dark circles imo and that after injecting, there is a foreign substance which I can easily feel. It feels like a protruding vein which of course is not obvious to people. Also, as what Kwell have mentioned, you need a surgeon with the skills.

I'd choose an implant rather than fillers. However, I've friends who doesn't like or are afraid to have implants in their face. In that case, fillers will come in handy, but it's not going to be cheap. :lol:
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Postby kalyn » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 1:59 pm

ocean11 wrote:mine was close method, some of them are open method.. one of my friend got scar!! :o i very scar mine will have.. siao liao..
i think ur one will heal faster then me.. cos u nvr put ear cartilage on ur tip, now my tip still numb and hard.. :roll:

but WHo, i like dr chuang said about place the silicone under the cartilage, i think that should be the way and will have less prob.. but still who can guarantee.




Ocean, are you talking about open/closed rhinoplasty? I've had open method and stitches have been removed 10 days ago, there are still slight redness around the area. Am I still recovering or are they scars? But even so, the scar wldn't be very obvious ya?

Anyway, you had ear cartilage on tip, I had septal cartilage. Wonder which is better, do you know what is the difference? My tip feels numb and hard too, all the way down to the septal.

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Postby ocean11 » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 2:15 pm

no no.. last time one.. the silicone one i got was close.. now is open for goretex. that is why i scare of scar,.. i think mine oso.. abit redness and one scar quite obvious for me.. but it much beta now.. so i hope it will go away after awhile..
me also quite thick skin lay.. but also happened to me, but i think becos mine was close, that is why nvr place properly..

whereas for my friends.. they thick skin or not i don know.. but they always praise they ownself pretty, so ya.. they are really 'thick skin'!! hehehe..

i don know which is better lay for cartilage.. but don need to cut open another place.. i think urs better?!! cos i got to cut my ear lay!! pain pain lor.. til now still abit sore!! other then that, i really don know wat is the diff..
anyone can answer?? i also wish to know.

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ocean11 wrote:mine was close method, some of them are open method.. one of my friend got scar!! :o i very scar mine will have.. siao liao..
i think ur one will heal faster then me.. cos u nvr put ear cartilage on ur tip, now my tip still numb and hard.. :roll:

but WHo, i like dr chuang said about place the silicone under the cartilage, i think that should be the way and will have less prob.. but still who can guarantee.




Ocean, are you talking about open/closed rhinoplasty? I've had open method and stitches have been removed 10 days ago, there are still slight redness around the area. Am I still recovering or are they scars? But even so, the scar wldn't be very obvious ya?

Anyway, you had ear cartilage on tip, I had septal cartilage. Wonder which is better, do you know what is the difference? My tip feels numb and hard too, all the way down to the septal.

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Postby DMN » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 2:49 pm

hello!

i removed stitches liao! not sooo pain only almost cried at only one point...otherwise, the nurse was very gentle and steady. :-)

my alar got to revise cos not covering nostrils enuf but got to wait for tip to be fully lengthen and for fats to be settled so coming back to Seoul in Sep/Oct. anybobdy coming then? can go together!

cheers,
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Postby Hannah Lee » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 5:43 pm

ocean11 wrote:no no.. last time one.. the silicone one i got was close.. now is open for goretex. that is why i scare of scar,.. i think mine oso.. abit redness and one scar quite obvious for me.. but it much beta now.. so i hope it will go away after awhile..
me also quite thick skin lay.. but also happened to me, but i think becos mine was close, that is why nvr place properly..

whereas for my friends.. they thick skin or not i don know.. but they always praise they ownself pretty, so ya.. they are really 'thick skin'!! hehehe..

i don know which is better lay for cartilage.. but don need to cut open another place.. i think urs better?!! cos i got to cut my ear lay!! pain pain lor.. til now still abit sore!! other then that, i really don know wat is the diff..
anyone can answer?? i also wish to know.

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ocean11 wrote:mine was close method, some of them are open method.. one of my friend got scar!! :o i very scar mine will have.. siao liao..
i think ur one will heal faster then me.. cos u nvr put ear cartilage on ur tip, now my tip still numb and hard.. :roll:

but WHo, i like dr chuang said about place the silicone under the cartilage, i think that should be the way and will have less prob.. but still who can guarantee.




Ocean, are you talking about open/closed rhinoplasty? I've had open method and stitches have been removed 10 days ago, there are still slight redness around the area. Am I still recovering or are they scars? But even so, the scar wldn't be very obvious ya?

Anyway, you had ear cartilage on tip, I had septal cartilage. Wonder which is better, do you know what is the difference? My tip feels numb and hard too, all the way down to the septal.


The open rhino scar will fade and become almost invisible with time. Mine was also red and obvious for a few months but now even when u look at it frm below u can't tell where my scars are. And in case u think I healed well because I am "young" well I'm err.....not that young. So dun worry!

Actually my tip is still slightly numb even one year post op. Maybe it will never feel normal again but I dun really care as long as it looks ok. My ear where they took the cartilage frm hurt alot for a while but now is perfectly normal again.

I think most ppl dun have enough septal cartilage so they use the ear where there is more to harvest from. But if u have enough septal then maybe the surgeon will prefer to use that. Not sure what the difference in result is though......

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Postby aadvark » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 5:57 pm

hownowhownow wrote:Hi aadvark,

I've seen on ya signature tt ya are going for buccal fat removal at Yanhee.
May I know how much approx they are charging? I can't seem to find tt on their site..Thanks! :D


it's not written on the website, i emailed them for the cost, USD700
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