Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[Hannah Lee]

Hi all,

Sorry been awhile since my last update. Seems like quite a number of us going to Dr Chuang lately no wonder he is so super bz lahz!

I posted earlier that I just did my eyes & nose with Dr Chuang.
Now 2wks post op and swelling has gone down quite abit.

For those interested, I have updated some pics to share with u all http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/Jerlis101/

Eyes still look very much swollen but I've received positive comments on them. I'm told my eyes look eurasian now I'm not sure why cuz I didnt do any forehead augmentation, but I did one more procedure which I duno wat is it called but according to Dr C, it is to 'lift' up the eyelid so the eyelashes curl upwards n opens up the eyes making them bigger. I suppose this is the reason for my sunken eye look now? Or it maybe due to the swelling still
As for nose, tip is still swollen n appear round n fleshy still. But from the side can see the tip abit sharp.. but I still prefer a sharper tip lah especially from the front view haha I know for nose the swelling still have a long way to go n final results may be in 2-3mths? So hopefully the shape turns out nice enough Pray hardz hehz..
I'm quite satisfied with the results I see so far and this has changed abt 60% of my overall looks from before especially the eyes. Feedbk frm frens r that I look like eurasian now due to the eyes which is wat I like cuz my old face is too flat So anyway those who wana do eyes n nose together, do be prepared this is going to change ur overall looks quite abit so if you're not comfortable do consider properly first

Your nose looks awesome for only 2 weeks post op! Your before nose looks like my old nose, flat and short. But what a difference! Did Dr. Chuang lengthen it and do alar reduction? Your nose tip will keep getting sharper as the weeks go by , so don't worry. I'm sure the end result will be very pretty.

[Angeluv101]

hey Angeluv101! which surgery did u had first? eyelid or nose?

I did both together on the same day. Eyes first den nose.

Thks Hannah, Yes, I did alar n tip lengthening as well. I think my nose swelling reduces quite fast but final results still long way to go right? Hope the tip can turn out nice n sharp haha

Did u do ur nose too?

[Hannah Lee]

Yup, I did my nose with Dr. Jung a year ago. I also did alar reduction, implant and lengthening like you. It made a big diff to my flat and short nose.....

[foubelle]

Hi all,

Sorry been awhile since my last update. Seems like quite a number of us going to Dr Chuang lately no wonder he is so super bz lahz!

I posted earlier that I just did my eyes & nose with Dr Chuang.
Now 2wks post op and swelling has gone down quite abit.

For those interested, I have updated some pics to share with u all http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/Jerlis101/

Eyes still look very much swollen but I've received positive comments on them. I'm told my eyes look eurasian now I'm not sure why cuz I didnt do any forehead augmentation, but I did one more procedure which I duno wat is it called but according to Dr C, it is to 'lift' up the eyelid so the eyelashes curl upwards n opens up the eyes making them bigger. I suppose this is the reason for my sunken eye look now? Or it maybe due to the swelling still
As for nose, tip is still swollen n appear round n fleshy still. But from the side can see the tip abit sharp.. but I still prefer a sharper tip lah especially from the front view haha I know for nose the swelling still have a long way to go n final results may be in 2-3mths? So hopefully the shape turns out nice enough Pray hardz hehz..
I'm quite satisfied with the results I see so far and this has changed abt 60% of my overall looks from before especially the eyes. Feedbk frm frens r that I look like eurasian now due to the eyes which is wat I like cuz my old face is too flat So anyway those who wana do eyes n nose together, do be prepared this is going to change ur overall looks quite abit so if you're not comfortable do consider properly first

the picture is how long one? for the eyes, i think by the time it fully heals, it might be only 1/2 to 1/3 of this length. will definitely drop one. the noseis gorgeous honey! you had an above average nose to begin with but after you did it. it looks great now. very natural too i might say. are you happy?

thks.. pictures r 2wks post op. I'm quite happy with wat I see so far except for the nose I will prefer it to be higher n sharoer. gosh r u sure .. my original nose was more of below average it's so short n flat! must be the pic not so accurate hahaz! Everyone says itt looks natural now but I want ia more dreastic change instead of natural. But then it has made a positive change in my looks so I will see how it goes after it fully heals Oh I hope the eyes doesnt drop too low cuz I quite like it now.. hmm.. Did u do ur eyes too?

nope. i saw it on some website. dr menrok or something.

[Sea]

Hi everyone,

Im new here. And im realli happy to find this site. By reading thro some of the threads, all of you have being very helpful and encouraging.


Me interested to have double eyelid. Dr C seem to be vy popular.

Hi Yen,

Can i check w you where is this KALO. I prefer to do k method jus like you...Can you let know how much and where it is?

Hi all,

I just did my double eyelid & Epicantoplasty at KALO yesterday.


Dr Song did the KOREAN method for me, so recovery will be alot faster.


Abit swell now but think will look good after swell subsides..


Will update my photos 2 weeks later


yen

[harajukugirl]

hi kalyn! thanks for the price breakdown girl.. it's very helpful! btw, are the prices u mentioned just for doing each procedure individually, or are they after a discount?

the eyebrow sulcus pad surgery is something i first heard about from cupid^n^starz, it gives the effect of a brow lift and makes your brow project further over your eyes to give it a more deepset, eurasian look

the eye levator muscle one is operating on the muscle itself so the eye can open bigger, and thus look bigger too.

i hope your swelling goes down soon, take care girl!

No prob dear, just sharing something I know. The prices that I mentioned is individual, the package price will only be slightly discounted. At least that's it for my case. Dr. Chuang didn't give me much discount. But I think it's on individual basis.

OHH, so the eyebrow succus pad surgery is that! I always thought to get the deepset, eurasian look eyes (something like what dawn's did), forehead argumentation is required. Or maybe it's both surgeries?

Eye levator muscle to make the eyes bigger? Are you talking bout epicantoplasty? Cus I've only heard of epicantoplasty surgery that will widen your eyes.

Thanks for well wishes

hmm did u mention tanjhj dear? i think it was mentioned before that if u quote him dr chuang might give u a further discount.. not that sure about it though

maybe it's like what u said, both surgeries will give better effect? i always thought forehead augmentation was only to make the forehead look rounder & thus more eurasian instead of the typical asian 'sloping' shape (as seen from side view).. does forehead augmentation enhance the projection of the brow too?

nope epicanthoplasty and the eye levator muscle are different, the epicanthoplasty opens up the inner corner of the eyes, so that it forms sorta a more lateral (horizontal) 'V' shape in the inner corner and u can see more white of the eyes..

the eye levator muscle is the muscle that opens the eyelids, so when u operate on it, the muscle can open the eyes bigger thus making ur eyes look bigger too that's what i read so far, hope it helps!

[harajukugirl]

Hi all,

Sorry been awhile since my last update. Seems like quite a number of us going to Dr Chuang lately no wonder he is so super bz lahz!

I posted earlier that I just did my eyes & nose with Dr Chuang.
Now 2wks post op and swelling has gone down quite abit.

For those interested, I have updated some pics to share with u all http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/Jerlis101/

Eyes still look very much swollen but I've received positive comments on them. I'm told my eyes look eurasian now I'm not sure why cuz I didnt do any forehead augmentation, but I did one more procedure which I duno wat is it called but according to Dr C, it is to 'lift' up the eyelid so the eyelashes curl upwards n opens up the eyes making them bigger. I suppose this is the reason for my sunken eye look now? Or it maybe due to the swelling still
As for nose, tip is still swollen n appear round n fleshy still. But from the side can see the tip abit sharp.. but I still prefer a sharper tip lah especially from the front view haha I know for nose the swelling still have a long way to go n final results may be in 2-3mths? So hopefully the shape turns out nice enough Pray hardz hehz..
I'm quite satisfied with the results I see so far and this has changed abt 60% of my overall looks from before especially the eyes. Feedbk frm frens r that I look like eurasian now due to the eyes which is wat I like cuz my old face is too flat So anyway those who wana do eyes n nose together, do be prepared this is going to change ur overall looks quite abit so if you're not comfortable do consider properly first

hi angeluv, ur results are so pretty! i'm sure ur eyes and nose will look even more amazing when all the swelling goes down congrats dear!

can i know what procedures u did with dr chuang? did u ask for silicon or goretex for ur nose, and how many mm did u ask for? for the procedure to 'lift up' ur eyelid, is it called the eye levator muscle surgery? sorry for the many questions babe, but ur results are really beautiful i'm also interested in more drastic rather than natural change, so hope to find out more.. hehe thanks so much!

[harajukugirl]

Hey guys!!
It's been 2 days now that I had rhinoplasty with dr Chuang,and my face is swelling (specially around my eyes and cheeks, but my nose,not that much)

I think that dr C. is friendly and patient,his nurses are just correct,not friendly as himself,maybe because I can't speak mandarin
The receptionist acts like a bimbo

I discussed with dr C during 5 min,which nose I want,to get it smaller,but don't want to have a caucasian nose.He said that he'll use silicon implant 'cause it will be easier to remove it,in case of another surgery in the future.
Then he took pictures of my nose and go to the surgery room.
I didn't have General Anaesthesia,so I was conscious during the operation and began to feel pain and headhache at the end.I didn't fall asleep after that,just got some rest in a room for half an hour and return to my guesthouse by train.

The operation began at 15h30 pm and I leaved the clinic at 20h00 pm.
Today,I will remove my stitches,and I'm happy that I don't have bruises or bleeding.I just can't breathe with my nose and it's uncomfortable,but that's all.Except that,I feel fine and dr C. told me that I can eat everything,except no spicy food,cigarettes,alcohol.
The first thing I ate after my surgery was donuts Donuts rules !!!

For your reccord,I don't take sinecch,and dr Chuang doesn't recommend me to take it,because sinecch is not authorized in this country, and you can't buy sinecch in Taiwan.
Lapomme.

hello lapomme! i'm glad that u're happy with ur nose and ur healing so far.. stay happy n i'm sure u'll heal even faster! i like donuts too.. haha how long will u stay in TW for?

btw, does dr chuang speak good english? i can speak mandarin but i think some procedures i have to say in english because i don't know their chinese names..

[harajukugirl]

hi imjase!

i've been reading ur blog, thanks very much for sharing your whole experience, i've learned alot from ur blog.. i hope u grow to like ur nose even more as the days go by!

u mentioned u did malaplasty and facial lipo.. is malaplasty = cheekbone shaving? did the cheek lipo make any diffference to ur face, ie make ur face narrower?

thanks

Yeah I did cheekbone shaving - that was the major difference I found because my face looked to me really long after I had this done with the chin implant. Cheek lipo I checked in the mirror and I do think it made a difference it makes my face more v shaped if that make sense from the front and oblique views.

Glad you enjoyed my blog I did it to help others understand what I went through. I do think malaplasty (cheek or jaw shaving) is a major surgery and you should prepare yourself if you ever try it.

Yeah I think give it another 3 months to a year it will finally settle and I can see the final result until them I just hope it stays the shape I want.

Also if you do facial lipo your face will puff up and swell for at least a couple of weeks so you wont really see any noticeable difference until 1 month+

thanks imjase

do u still feel any pain or numbness in ur cheek or jaw area? i think most likely i'll do the shaving and lipo because i really want a smaller face, though the cheekbone shaving does seem scary because it involves bone. lipo making ur face more 'V' shaped totally makes sense to me, i imagine it being sharper, more anime-face shaped, haha..

[imjase]

Hey Kalyn,

I think even 3 months on I'm still a bit nervous in seeing people in case they say something but just normal friends dont even seem to notice. The first 1-2 months I didnt really want to see anyone and it was hard for me to face anyone I didnt trust.

botox on the jaw was my first time yes.

Yeah you going to get most of the swelling in the fat-lipo in your lower cheeks it should graudally go down slowly in terms of swelling. I wore the headband on the loosest setting but it still felt painful and I would only be able to sleep for 3-4 hours before I had to take it off for awhile. You could do what I did which was when I'm watching tv or doing nothing I would put my hands on my face to push my face into the v-shape. Also having warm towel on the face is good but not too hot.

Yeah your bridge will keep going down my bridge looked alien also looking back at the photos in the first couple of weeks.

Hope you heal quickly and just make sure you do some walking each day, get fresh air etc... since it helps with the healing.

Jase

Wow, you're sure one brave man! I'm already feeling like living hell with four procedures done, and coincidentally, we had 3 similar procedures I heard that Malaplasty(cheekbone shaving) is really painful, may I know how long did it took for you to look normal(as in to be able to face the public and meet friends)?

For botox on jaw, is this your first time? If it is, I heard we gotta wait for a few months, and even that, the results will be subtle. The difference will only be significant after a few jabs.

I'm now very concerned about my face lipo-ed. The fats/swell on my face seems to be at my lower cheeks. Is this normal for you too? I'm afraid the fats will "xia-chui", if you know what I mean. Can I ask did you wear the headband very tight or just nice? Cus when I wear it very tight, my jaw hurts after a long while, but when I wear it just nice, it doesn't seem to help to push the fats up. *faints*

Yes yes, my bridge looked really high and wide, I feel like an alien!! Dr. Chuang told me it's still swelling and it will decrease in height and size. Sigh, hopefully. I just can't wait to see the final results. Living in fear to go public now everyday...

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only problem i have now is the sides still look fat, cos the chin only managed to improve the look from the front, so thinking of jaw implant. but after seeing imjase, i'm thinking shld i do bone shaving also? cos i dun want too square, want a sharp face like wang lee hom
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If you do bone shaving it will give you a sharper face from the front and side profiles. It will make your face longer if thats the type of result you want.


To harajukugirl:

Yes I still do have numbness pain in my chin and nose still now after 3 months.

[Angeluv101]

Hi all,

Sorry been awhile since my last update. Seems like quite a number of us going to Dr Chuang lately no wonder he is so super bz lahz!

I posted earlier that I just did my eyes & nose with Dr Chuang.
Now 2wks post op and swelling has gone down quite abit.

For those interested, I have updated some pics to share with u all http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/Jerlis101/

Eyes still look very much swollen but I've received positive comments on them. I'm told my eyes look eurasian now I'm not sure why cuz I didnt do any forehead augmentation, but I did one more procedure which I duno wat is it called but according to Dr C, it is to 'lift' up the eyelid so the eyelashes curl upwards n opens up the eyes making them bigger. I suppose this is the reason for my sunken eye look now? Or it maybe due to the swelling still
As for nose, tip is still swollen n appear round n fleshy still. But from the side can see the tip abit sharp.. but I still prefer a sharper tip lah especially from the front view haha I know for nose the swelling still have a long way to go n final results may be in 2-3mths? So hopefully the shape turns out nice enough Pray hardz hehz..
I'm quite satisfied with the results I see so far and this has changed abt 60% of my overall looks from before especially the eyes. Feedbk frm frens r that I look like eurasian now due to the eyes which is wat I like cuz my old face is too flat So anyway those who wana do eyes n nose together, do be prepared this is going to change ur overall looks quite abit so if you're not comfortable do consider properly first

hi angeluv, ur results are so pretty! i'm sure ur eyes and nose will look even more amazing when all the swelling goes down congrats dear!

can i know what procedures u did with dr chuang? did u ask for silicon or goretex for ur nose, and how many mm did u ask for? for the procedure to 'lift up' ur eyelid, is it called the eye levator muscle surgery? sorry for the many questions babe, but ur results are really beautiful i'm also interested in more drastic rather than natural change, so hope to find out more.. hehe thanks so much!

thks dear... hope the swelling goes down fast cuz I look abit weird now with the swollen eyes

I did:
1) eyes - double eyelid, epi, 'eye lift' procedure
2) nose - silicone implant, alar reduction, tip lengthening wif septal cartilage (nose cartilage) height of bridge raised I not sure cuz he din mentioned n I forgot to ask He so bz I always got things forgot to ask.. somemore bz til forgot to take my before photo lah! lucky i got take down myself.. hee sorry out of topic

Erm I'm not sure wat is dat eye procedure called.. but it does sound like the eye levator muscle surgery u were talking abt.. Wat I can remember is that he stitch up some muscle inside so it lifts up the eyelid cuz i got droopy eyelids, making the eyelashes curl upwards. This opens up the eyes showing more pupils making them appear bigger (wide-eye look?) and a deeper crease is also formed. Anyway will check with Dr C again then let u know k

[Angeluv101]

Just curious.. those dat did nose before..

Did u have a prob with the size of ur nostrils? Mine appears to be one big one small n diff shaped somemore.. not reali obvious onli can see from closed up Dr says everyone got slightly inbalanced nostrils in size n shape especially ladies nose.. just dat we dun noticed before but after nose job tend to look at our nose more haha

[ocean11]

DMN,
my nose huh? hmm.. beta.. the bridge very obvious now, hope it wouldnt go down anymore.. as for the tip, hope it can be more sharper.. now still look abit bulbous.. overall not that bad.. but only barely 3 weeks, so still long way to go.. now wat i am concern is the scar!! i guess cos my age, the scar heal quite slow, and i am worried it wouldnt heal.. *finger crossed* althou not obvious, but i want it flawless!!

u brave gal.. autologous not an easy op.. which part are u going to harvest from, if it not from ur rib?

jia you!!

Thanks, Ocean 11!

How is yr new nose doing?

I think mine will turn out well cos I'll be in very good hands of Dr. Jung. Rate of failure is 5-8% and this is no materially diff from Silicon n Goretexl. Also, I know Dr. Jung will make sure the appearance and after-care is well taken care of and his guarantee of revision shld we feel not satified is very reassuring. But feeling jittery is normal right?

Been researching more and think he is almost on par with Dr. Toriumi the doc hailed as best Rhinoplasty doc in USA cos they r both ENT specilalist. They even hv written a book together. As ENT specilist, they r able to 'dig' more inner nose cartilage to supplment supply for ear cartilage n do the op without harm to ENT structure.

I m not into high bridge (3mm) cos I prefer to lengthen my short nose, give top of bridge a good profile and give nose tip an elegance shape to suit my face. Praying the cartilage to be harvested from ear n inner nose will be enuf. I do not intend to harvest from my rib cos I need to travel so often.

cheers,
dmn

P.S. Rachel - Sineech, is so nice, she actually delivered it to my door!

[ocean11]

Angeluv101,

NIce nose job done!! 2 weeks after op!? good healing! u must be quite young.. hehehe..

ya lor. same as me.. now the tip still bulbous.. hope it be get sharper as days goes..
i think my bridge height is about the same as urs, or slightly taller.. cos i heard from Ah Jung, he used about 5mm or slightly more den 5mm for me. but aiya, 1mm diff.. not much diff la..

my nostrils sometime look balance, sometime not! hehehe.. i oso don know why.. but yeah, not obvious.. aiya, it ok la.. don think ppls will look at ur nostrils when talk to u rite?

one thing about goretex, the bridge really looks thicker den the silicone.. but den again is more natural, cos i see most of my frens that nvr do nose job before, the bridge are thicker den those using L shape or I
shape implant.. so when we fully heal, nobody will guess u had a nose job b4.. i meant those new friends.. hehehe..

Just curious.. those dat did nose before..

Did u have a prob with the size of ur nostrils? Mine appears to be one big one small n diff shaped somemore.. not reali obvious onli can see from closed up Dr says everyone got slightly inbalanced nostrils in size n shape especially ladies nose.. just dat we dun noticed before but after nose job tend to look at our nose more haha

[katiyalooca]

just wondering if anybody who could not speak korean language and who went to korea for ps or consultation. how was the experience for you in terms of getting around and interacting with ppl who can't speak the same language as you. Do most ppl, example the taxi drivers, speak english? Is the price of food and hotel expensive in Seoul? I plan to get my nose and eyes done. Would it be possible to have consultations at several ps clinics without appointments, or would i need to call them beforehand, like months before, in order for them to see me. i would like to see at least 10 surgeons before i decide. for now, i suppose Dr. Kim, and next Dr. Jung would be the top two. any other famous surgeons you guys would recommend?

i guess i just find it sort of intimidating to go by myself to a country i have no idea how to speak their native language...but i trust in korean ps the most!!! i believe that they would MOST give me the drastic change as compared to the western surgeons who seem to opt more for the natural alterations..as seen by the 'extreme makeover' tv shows. the nose often seem quite similar albeit the hump removal. what i need is a much much slimmer nose and rounder eyes. oh by the way, i tried the simulation online on dr. kim's website, and his double eyelid, lateral canthotomy, and epicanthopy (?) simulation did not reveal a larger eye, just double eyelid on top of my eyes..i want ROUNDER eyes..you guys knwo waht i should request?

Thanks guys, waiting for your replies!
p.s. hey shoegirl, how are you doing, so are you still going in december?
p.p.s. anyone wanna go to korea with me next june/july 2008?