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Postby who » Wed, 23 May 2007 8:20 pm

Dr. Chuang doesn't do eyelash implants. You need to go to Dr. Jong for this.

plastickorea... I may be going during beginning of Jan... or end end of Dec... since I wanna do my double eyelids as they are really small... Plus, I think Fuschiacotton is going at the end of the year too... I've contacted her also...

Just a forewarning, I may go to China for double eyelid cuz it's a minor procedure, and I have family there... I'm still very undecided on my schedule.

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Postby fushiacotton » Wed, 23 May 2007 8:44 pm

Hey DMN,

I absolutely agree with you. Facial features should not be overly done. But mainly done to complement the other features of the face as well as enhance, not to overtake.

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Postby PlasticKorea » Wed, 23 May 2007 8:59 pm

here are some pics of the buccal fat for cheeks...
sorry i couldnt find any asian ones~ lol or movie star ones... but you can see a big difference in these peoples cheeks!

http://www.doctortaylor.com/Tlr_list.asp?type=Proc&data=Buccal_Fat

http://www.beverlyhillsbody.com/beforeafter/buccal01.html

http://www.drbrent.com/buccalfatexcision.php

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Postby candall » Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04 pm

thanks for details on facial contours DMN :D

i know of an aquaintance fren who did the bone shaving in china she is very satisfied bt only it is unbalance
she did a revision think 6mths later bt i dont know wats the outcome
the numbness is common and it is possible to experience for lifetime
but many doctors think there is no known problems xcept no feelings!!!they explain its like remove the nerve in bad tooth or maybe once in a while you can feel numb for whole life!! bt its ok!?

i guess tis hidden price patient gotta 'pay'

i so scared of the unwanted results at ltr stage tats why i haven done anything except laser and IPL haha

bt this forum gives me tons of courage and confidence
really quite happy to have found this place :D

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Re: lao liao....

Postby tanjhj » Wed, 23 May 2007 11:32 pm

DMN wrote:
tanjhj wrote:
http://www.miniface.com/contentbypermal ... bcd785540f

abv is the link for those wif protruding cheek bone thinking of going for bone shaving n etc. surgery.. this is the new method which dun really need much shaving thus less complications as mentioned as abv...

another way is to do multiple doses botox.. thou result maybe limited.

hope it helps



Thanks, tanjhj! :-)

Unfort, I hv been researching very thoroughly on the internet for reviews from various docs for some months. There r complaints in Taiwan and HK forums on this docs the best doc in Taiwan on bone shaving and oso on Dr. BK Lim. Just google xiao gu and read thru with patience. You'll find quite a few case with nerves and tissue sensitivity problems after surgery from so-so docs and these famous/very experience docs too. Again, I m referring to cases post 6-mths op.

This proves that bone shaving for jaws and cheekbones is still the highest risks amongst PS surgery. It is a VERY delicate op which even the best docs can make minor mistakes (cutting of bones hurt nerves and tissues in the process by mili-centimeters) or judgement errors (on how much to shave). The whole point of elective op is to hv bone structure with gentle contours to enhance other facial features.

There are 2 ladies in their late twenties - one did hers 2 yrs ago and other did hers 4 yrs ago - who r looking at full face lifting to stop the sagging.

Shiyun/Candall, yes, bone shavings are only recommended for those who dun hv much fats for lipo. A good measure is to pinch the problem area and you should be able to pinch min. 0.5 inch or even 1 inch. Beyond one inch, lipo is appropriate. Below 0.5 inch and the area is still protruding then bone shaving is the only way to change the look. One alternative is of course what Shiyun tried - fats transplant. The decision should be discussed with your doc.

Also, one consideration which no one discussed, is Chinese face reading considerations. Mian Xiang is a proven metaphysics. The current fashion of very pointed nose, over extended eyes showing excessive white and giving the eyes what is terms ??? or ???, and/or, razor-blade like high/sharp cheekbones r actually not recommended at all. I see a lot of entertainers, and girls on the street in many cities I visit having these looks after PS. You dun see well-balanced ladies in decent jobs or or reasonable social status having such looks.

It is a fact, how one's face looks attract the matching type of pple around him/her. Everyday, when we meet ppl we constantly pass judgement on their looks - whether we like to admit it or not / if such so-called shallow thinking is justifiable or not. We do not only make judgement on the person's asthestics/attractiveness, we pass judgement based what the features sum up to us - BEFORE they open their word to mutter any words.

Aside fom attractiveness, terms such such sexy, slutty, ah-lian, boring, interesting, well-educated, low-class, sad, happy, bitchy etc etc come to our brain from the visuals of a face. A lady's face may look good (e.g. Fxxx Xxx) but she can look slutty/low-class at the same time. (Well, her scattered-brain is sthng one cannot missed when u speak to her :D ) Or, have u ever seen really ugly KTV girls? Dun a gd % of them look pretty and some even drop-dead georgeous? But it is easy to pick them out on the street for the foxy tramp look.

Pls consider very carefully HOW do you like ppl to perceive you cos unfort in this instant gratification world - 1st impression counts much more than ever. :-|

BTW, Dawn Yxx looks obsolutely fake in person, even a little scary. I mean I like Jap comics but to have a real person looking like that is definitely scary. A top hair stylist and stylist openly bitched her in a premier. They rightly said tt for all the pain and money she took to hv this seasonal fame - which serious director on earth will ast a carton-looking real person in their show? Many local and overseas artistes do PS. In the popular China PS forum Hua Xia she is hailed as a PS monster an example of what not to do to oneself when selecting PS op. There goes her chance of making it in Chinese medium market as a teeny idol....

FYI, for scars, maybe can try Cool touch treatment or fat transplant - depending on size and thickness of skin. I tried Cool touch on a 5-cent coin size scar on brow bone and it faded out alot and is no longer noticeable. Pls consult a good doc.

For PS, we need to apply risk management and realism.

cheers & good luck to all!
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very well written info. kudos to ur hardwork. thanks for your warning else i will kana big time if the bad news hapen on me. i am thinking hard on bone shaving too this few months and glad that forumers here mentioned other alternatives.

i dun mind the pain and temp side effects of bone shaving like Nerve problem and no feeling at specific locations of the face for a few months. in fact i am ok with lost of feelings on the operated area as long as it does not really affect my life. but was scared of perm bad after effects which will affect my life seriously.

the reason i am at 1st ok with bone shaving is becoz i met a forumer whom did her jaw and chin shaving before and she has no bad after effects and the result look good on her.

nevertheless, discuss with dr chuang and he is pretty confident of his korean bone shaving techniques which he learned from korea, of coz he did mentioned there maybe side effects which really depends on individual.

anyway now i think i put it on the hold for few years 1st. i just contd with my other PS. i am not hurry to do all my PS once at one time.

As for Dawn yeo, not much to comment accept she overdid her features by altering it rather than refinement of her features. thats y she has that PSed look. But i like her eyes! lol

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Last edited by tanjhj on Thu, 24 May 2007 2:44 am, edited 4 times in total.
Golden Rules of PS:
1)If it aint broken, dun fix it / dun fix what u dun need
2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face
3)Work on your confidence 1st

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Postby tanjhj » Wed, 23 May 2007 11:35 pm

who wrote:Dr. Chuang doesn't do eyelash implants. You need to go to Dr. Jong for this.

plastickorea... I may be going during beginning of Jan... or end end of Dec... since I wanna do my double eyelids as they are really small... Plus, I think Fuschiacotton is going at the end of the year too... I've contacted her also...

Just a forewarning, I may go to China for double eyelid cuz it's a minor procedure, and I have family there... I'm still very undecided on my schedule.


TCS actress Phyllis Quek admit she did her double eyelid at China. Kudos to her. but than her eye job was well done.. but then i see similiar splendid result from Dr Wong of Gleneagles. maybe like u say it is a minor operation.
Golden Rules of PS:

1)If it aint broken, dun fix it / dun fix what u dun need

2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face

3)Work on your confidence 1st

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Postby appletree » Thu, 24 May 2007 3:35 am

LOL... interesting to learn about this sia. keke. So its important for one to actually learn to appreciate ownself look given by parents, too much ps is not healthy, will end up to be called a ps queen or plastic face when people saw u on the street... pengs Inner beauty is still e most impt.





tanjhj wrote:
Bathtub wrote:
tanjhj wrote:
suemei wrote:OMG

my fren is one of the ex bf of fiona xie during her schooldays. and my fren is an indian. he kinda dump her coz he cant stand her lack of inner substances, one very good example is her trying to fake a american accent even thou she dun stay in usa. she kinda despise local chinese. my fren was kinda piss she look down even at her own race n ppl.. haiz


next is her now frequent fling with various actors n rich men, kinda like a socialite whore.

anyway, my fren show me their pics thus i kinda know what she have done to her face. she did some PS before and after she join Mediacorp. Anyway, i am amazed why is she gals' idol and the guy's pin up gal? is it becoz of her siliconeD assets? :???: :???: as for her looks, i dun kinda like her "swan" look, is she really that pretty? Fake look ok lah to me but need to fake personality, fake accent, fake cute.. i personally dun think she is pretty or gorgeous or cute. she is pretty norm looking or maybe i am wrong in my taste. hehe

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Postby PlasticKorea » Thu, 24 May 2007 4:12 am

Yes I can see how people get carried away with ps... everyday i learn of ways to fix basically every part of my body and face!

But I am sticking with nose and breast... and eyelashes(but i dont count this a ps)

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nose bridge

Postby fushiacotton » Thu, 24 May 2007 4:38 am

will wearing glasses actually bring your nose bridge down?

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Postby kalyn » Thu, 24 May 2007 12:36 pm

PlasticKorea wrote:here are some pics of the buccal fat for cheeks...
sorry i couldnt find any asian ones~ lol or movie star ones... but you can see a big difference in these peoples cheeks!

http://www.doctortaylor.com/Tlr_list.asp?type=Proc&data=Buccal_Fat

http://www.beverlyhillsbody.com/beforeafter/buccal01.html

http://www.drbrent.com/buccalfatexcision.php



Wow, thanks for the links!! The buccal fat removal indeed make a difference in the overall face shape.

When I emailed Dr. Chuang, i told him I want a slimmer face and told him I'm considering facial lipo, he told me it's possible for me to achieve a slimmer face by cheeks lipo. But he didn't say anything about buccal fats removal.

Can someone please advise me what is the difference with buccal fat removal and cheek liposuction? Which is better at achieving the slim face? Which is more risky? Does anyone know? :???: Appreciate if someone who knows can kindly share... Thanks!

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Postby Bathtub » Thu, 24 May 2007 5:17 pm

Tomorrow im gonna go under knife & burn my pocket.. :cry:

Just hope everything turn out well...at least better than current.

Stupid scar...shooshoo

Tanjhj, thanks for ur encouragement

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Postby candall » Thu, 24 May 2007 7:36 pm

Bathtub all the best to you :D

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Postby candall » Thu, 24 May 2007 7:43 pm

thanks for the link plastickorea :D
they really look very different and not to mention so much better!
in this forum someone mention it is best accompanied with some lifting after buccal cheek removal.
i have had came across similar reviews from other articles on this...
tats why i have put off this surgery cos the scare factor of the lifting procedures outweigh everything :?

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Postby aadvark » Thu, 24 May 2007 7:57 pm

candall wrote:thanks for the link plastickorea :D
they really look very different and not to mention so much better!
in this forum someone mention it is best accompanied with some lifting after buccal cheek removal.
i have had came across similar reviews from other articles on this...
tats why i have put off this surgery cos the scare factor of the lifting procedures outweigh everything :?


i definitely want to do buccal fat removals. genetics are so unfair, some ppl age gracefully with everything still firm and taut, but my cheeks beome more and more saggy, like premature ageing...

doing jaw, alar and buccal in dec, hopefully year end bonus can cover it!

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Postby aadvark » Thu, 24 May 2007 8:06 pm

appletree wrote:LOL... interesting to learn about this sia. keke. So its important for one to actually learn to appreciate ownself look given by parents, too much ps is not healthy, will end up to be called a ps queen or plastic face when people saw u on the street... pengs Inner beauty is still e most impt.





tanjhj wrote:
Bathtub wrote:
tanjhj wrote:
suemei wrote:OMG

my fren is one of the ex bf of fiona xie during her schooldays. and my fren is an indian. he kinda dump her coz he cant stand her lack of inner substances, one very good example is her trying to fake a american accent even thou she dun stay in usa. she kinda despise local chinese. my fren was kinda piss she look down even at her own race n ppl.. haiz


next is her now frequent fling with various actors n rich men, kinda like a socialite whore.

anyway, my fren show me their pics thus i kinda know what she have done to her face. she did some PS before and after she join Mediacorp. Anyway, i am amazed why is she gals' idol and the guy's pin up gal? is it becoz of her siliconeD assets? :???: :???: as for her looks, i dun kinda like her "swan" look, is she really that pretty? Fake look ok lah to me but need to fake personality, fake accent, fake cute.. i personally dun think she is pretty or gorgeous or cute. she is pretty norm looking or maybe i am wrong in my taste. hehe


haiz, i also agree inner beauty impt, but too bad eyes can only see outside... and while we dun want ppl to judge us by our covers, can we truthfully say we dun judge others by theirs?

anyway, mentioned before that many surveys have shown that beautiful people become more successful in life in general. Just think of PS as a career investment!


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