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Postby appletree » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 5:05 pm

tanjhj wrote:
Angeluv101 wrote:
appletree wrote:Hi Angeluv101,

Im going to do L implant with him in order to have a higher bridge & "kyt" too .. kkeeke

Just wondering u are not smoking while e wound is healing, do u suffer from running nose now??

Yeah, i've waited like near 1 week plus before Dr.chuang replied me..
keke

What procedures u be doing with him?


I think Dr Chuang must be really busy these days.. still waitin for his reply so I can start planning for the trip..
I plan to re-do my double eyelid & kyt & nosejob.. probably considering dimple too hehez..

Nope, I dont have any running nose probs so far... like wat Shazza mentioned, it may hinder in the healing process esp if u doing rhino..


thinking of doing dimple too... eyes nose dimple.. it will be a painful 1 week for me.. but of coz cant compared to what cupdiz went thru. thinking of it can make me sweat everytime..



Hi tanjhj,

Just wondering how they do an implant for dimples?
There was once i went clubbing & a stranger came up to me & asked if my dimples are real... was so shocked by his remarks ... :o heh..pengs

U be doing kyt or kyw?? Which one is more define arh?? keke


Yea, i intend to quit smoking for 2 weeks before hand... :cool: may i suceed in quiting for e 2 weeks man... but afraid that i might end up with running nose by then... duhz
Im afraid the running nose might hinder e nose surgery wor... :(
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Postby Shazza » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 7:45 pm

thanks all! well i have afriend who did an open rhino and she caught a flu after the surgery..the nose turned out great but she was complaining that the swell worsen and she was in a lot of discomfort..so try to quit first?

i want to quit first....think its a good chance to force yourself to quit...ha ha

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Postby imjase » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:26 pm

Well I finally decided on Dr Chuang in Taiwan for my surgery. I would recommend him to anyone who is wanting to do surgery but you have to be specific and make sure you explain to him what you want in terms of outcome and results and he will acommodate.

I am a male. My needs might be slightly different since I work in TV/Music hence I explained to him that my objectives was to have the best facial ratio in pictures and film and he understand the look I was trying to achieve after we went through several photos. I did virtual photoshop on my face and we talked over my concerns.

It has been 5 days now since I had surgery and my swelling has gone down about 50%.

Procedures I did.

1) Open rhino (L Shape Silicon Implant) Base Alar reduction, osteotomy to make the bridge narrower and the implant was a sharp narrow one to raise the height of my nose. I have a high bridge anyways but I wanted to raise the profile more.

2) Chin Implant Medpor

3) Facial contouring - Cheekbone shaving to make the face more defined and sharper from the front angle.

4) Cheek Liposuction to reduce the face from front angle.

5) Botox on jawline to slim the face.

Main reasons were:

a) He really listened to what I wanted in terms of outcome of surgery and we went through alot of emails and spent 5-6 hours face to face consultation. I did it twice day before op because he had alot of ops to do.
b) He cleared the whole day for my surgery.
c) I explained to him that the most important thing for me was 1) We achieve good and the desired expected results. 2) There was no complications in surgery. He achieved both objectives for me.

I did stay at dejavu hotel but I moved to a better hotel because I couldnt deal with the air in that particular hotel. For me if the air isnt right in the room its very hard for me to sleep and I start coughing.

I post a bit later my post-op experience but so far there hasnt been anything negative from the op only parts was I wasnt mentally prepared for that many surgical ops and there are certain things you also have to understand about your own body which you might not be aware of before op.

My swelling and bruising has gone done very quick compared to when I came out of surgery my face was like 3 times the size but dramatically reduced in size in 48 hours. I couldnt open my eyes properly for 2 days. After 1 day I could open them slightly for like 5 seconds a time.

I didnt take sinnech and I have to be on liquid diet for 2 months.
(This is because if you do any facial contouring jaw shaving or cheek shaving you need 2 months before you can fully eat solid food again.)

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Postby takuda » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:29 pm

imjase wrote:Well I finally decided on Dr Chuang in Taiwan for my surgery. I would recommend him to anyone who is wanting to do surgery but you have to be specific and make sure you explain to him what you want in terms of outcome and results and he will acommodate.

I am a male. My needs might be slightly different since I work in TV/Music hence I explained to him that my objectives was to have the best facial ratio in pictures and film and he understand the look I was trying to achieve after we went through several photos. I did virtual photoshop on my face and we talked over my concerns.

It has been 5 days now since I had surgery and my swelling has gone down about 50%.

Procedures I did.

1) Open rhino (L Shape Silicon Implant) Base Alar reduction, osteotomy to make the bridge narrower and the implant was a sharp narrow one to raise the height of my nose. I have a high bridge anyways but I wanted to raise the profile more.

2) Chin Implant Medpor

3) Facial contouring - Cheekbone shaving to make the face more defined and sharper from the front angle.

4) Cheek Liposuction to reduce the face from front angle.

5) Botox on jawline to slim the face.

Main reasons were:

a) He really listened to what I wanted in terms of outcome of surgery and we went through alot of emails and spent 5-6 hours face to face consultation. I did it twice day before op because he had alot of ops to do.
b) He cleared the whole day for my surgery.
c) I explained to him that the most important thing for me was 1) We achieve good and the desired expected results. 2) There was no complications in surgery. He achieved both objectives for me.

I did stay at dejavu hotel but I moved to a better hotel because I couldnt deal with the air in that particular hotel. For me if the air isnt right in the room its very hard for me to sleep and I start coughing.

I post a bit later my post-op experience but so far there hasnt been anything negative from the op only parts was I wasnt mentally prepared for that many surgical ops and there are certain things you also have to understand about your own body which you might not be aware of before op.

My swelling and bruising has gone done very quick compared to when I came out of surgery my face was like 3 times the size but dramatically reduced in size in 48 hours. I couldnt open my eyes properly for 2 days. After 1 day I could open them slightly for like 5 seconds a time.

I didnt take sinnech and I have to be on liquid diet for 2 months.
(This is because if you do any facial contouring jaw shaving or cheek shaving you need 2 months before you can fully eat solid food again.)


how much did you spend? for each procedure? and i thought dr chuang uses goretex? :lol:
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Postby who » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:11 pm

Dr. Chuang uses goretex but he prefer silicone for aftercare reasons

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Postby imjase » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:17 pm

takuda wrote:
imjase wrote:Well I finally decided on Dr Chuang in Taiwan for my surgery. I would recommend him to anyone who is wanting to do surgery but you have to be specific and make sure you explain to him what you want in terms of outcome and results and he will acommodate.

I am a male. My needs might be slightly different since I work in TV/Music hence I explained to him that my objectives was to have the best facial ratio in pictures and film and he understand the look I was trying to achieve after we went through several photos. I did virtual photoshop on my face and we talked over my concerns.

It has been 5 days now since I had surgery and my swelling has gone down about 50%.

Procedures I did.

1) Open rhino (L Shape Silicon Implant) Base Alar reduction, osteotomy to make the bridge narrower and the implant was a sharp narrow one to raise the height of my nose. I have a high bridge anyways but I wanted to raise the profile more.

2) Chin Implant Medpor

3) Facial contouring - Cheekbone shaving to make the face more defined and sharper from the front angle.

4) Cheek Liposuction to reduce the face from front angle.

5) Botox on jawline to slim the face.

Main reasons were:

a) He really listened to what I wanted in terms of outcome of surgery and we went through alot of emails and spent 5-6 hours face to face consultation. I did it twice day before op because he had alot of ops to do.
b) He cleared the whole day for my surgery.
c) I explained to him that the most important thing for me was 1) We achieve good and the desired expected results. 2) There was no complications in surgery. He achieved both objectives for me.

I did stay at dejavu hotel but I moved to a better hotel because I couldnt deal with the air in that particular hotel. For me if the air isnt right in the room its very hard for me to sleep and I start coughing.

I post a bit later my post-op experience but so far there hasnt been anything negative from the op only parts was I wasnt mentally prepared for that many surgical ops and there are certain things you also have to understand about your own body which you might not be aware of before op.

My swelling and bruising has gone done very quick compared to when I came out of surgery my face was like 3 times the size but dramatically reduced in size in 48 hours. I couldnt open my eyes properly for 2 days. After 1 day I could open them slightly for like 5 seconds a time.

I didnt take sinnech and I have to be on liquid diet for 2 months.
(This is because if you do any facial contouring jaw shaving or cheek shaving you need 2 months before you can fully eat solid food again.)


how much did you spend? for each procedure? and i thought dr chuang uses goretex? :lol:


open rhino - 60,000 NTD
facial contouring - 150,000 NTD
chin aug with medpor - 60,000 NTD
liposuction of cheek - 50,000 NTD
botox was roughly 400 USD each cheek.

You can use gortex but problems will arise if you want to correct it in future. Since my 2nd highest priority was no complications - We discussed the pros and cons of using hard gortex and for me there was more risk with gortex than silicon to get results I want and there isnt really any problem with me getting corrections in the future and we discussed risk of retraction and extrusion also. Also money was no objective for me so we could have used gortex if required but as I highlight below this is the reasons I choose silicon.

a) Since I have thick skin the rise of entrusion and retraction was minimal if performed with open rhino and by a skilled surgeon.
b) Entrusion and retraction is common in closed rhino.
c) Silicon can be easily removed via closed procedure in future and complications can be spotted by the first month.
d) Gortex if you get infection etc bears more risk of complications the longer the gortex is left in since it grows on you.
e) I would get better results.
f) He said he will try all different kind of implants anyway for me during the op but I told him my first choice was silicon L implant.
g) I can always get the implant removed in the future with minimal complications if I wished.

Oh and I do think Dr Chuang is honest and not money hungry because I asked him to give my gf a face to face consultation and recommend procedures that she needed. He evaluated her and said she didnt need any procedures if she really wanted to just a filler for the top part of her nose bridge but other than that it was all fine.

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Postby appletree » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:26 am

who wrote:Dr. Chuang uses goretex but he prefer silicone for aftercare reasons




Hmmm... but usually he use silicone for L shape implants right?

Usually if there's complications or infections, wil be seen within the 2 months hor? After the 2 months if there's no side effects means its we are safe....? keke Correct me if im wrong. :P

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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 1:10 am

appletree wrote:
who wrote:Dr. Chuang uses goretex but he prefer silicone for aftercare reasons



for me, i super kiasu pne i would say be very safe and take good care of the PS for 3 mths post ops..


Hmmm... but usually he use silicone for L shape implants right?

Usually if there's complications or infections, wil be seen within the 2 months hor? After the 2 months if there's no side effects means its we are safe....? keke Correct me if im wrong. :P


for me, i super kiasu one i would say be very safe and take good care of the PS for 3 mths post ops..

as for dimples, i read abt it but dun really understand but i know there is various methods in doing dimples thus i am not sure which method dr c. uses. however dimples surgery is simple procedure and the most impt key is to know where to create the depression for best result..
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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 1:14 am

imjase,

take care and good luck! so fast u did ur PS liao. u just joined in feb! power leh.

not fair leh ur Rhino is 60k, mine is 80k!

muz complain :lol:
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2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face

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Postby appletree » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 1:54 am

Hi everyone,

Does anybody knows what's e diff between acute sinusitis due to infection, or allergic rhinoritis or sinusitis??
Acute sinusitis means very serious flu everyday?


Hi tanjhj,

If theres any acute or subacute infection that will show up during 2 months after operation, does that means that e doc will have to remove e implant off e nose?
:shock:

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Postby imjase » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 4:57 am

tanjhj wrote:imjase,

take care and good luck! so fast u did ur PS liao. u just joined in feb! power leh.

not fair leh ur Rhino is 60k, mine is 80k!

muz complain :lol:


Hi tanjhj,

yeah its because i start filming in the summer so I had to do it quick and my schedule is very tight! I spent a long time researching lots of surgeons and I went with the one which made me feel the most comfortable. Dr Chuang is crazy busy after post-op I visit him at 9.00am and he does as many post check ups I think before 10.00-10.30 then he is in operation room till 9.30pm each day... Maybe he squeezes in a few consultations but thats what I saw of the schedule. Also I picked after chinese new year which is the least busy month which made sure I got the attention I needed and I did moan alot after the op but that was due to me being worried about certain things.

Well yeah this massive debate over gortex and silicon. For me if I want to change my nose again its alot easier to do with silicon after six months since thats the time they usually ask you to wait before seeing 90-95% of final result.

I try keep you guys updated and let you know my progress.

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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 6:47 am

who wrote:sorry about the Bali hotel post... I really don't know (like I said) since I have never been there. I'm glad that other people know though.

yea... smoking is a no no... It will increase your chances of scarring by a lot... not only just slow down healing time.
For the person who gets sick, eat vitamin c or fruit juices because this increases your collagen production and builds up your immune system.

It's beginning to worry me that Tanjh is recommending Wishclinic so much. He's almost like a walking advertisement. I hope this is really not the case for the sake of everyone else.


i have thought abt this but i am just telling frankly what i feel and know abt dr chuang, i spend lots of my own time to find and compared and research on PS. local and aboard. there is a reason why i chosen Wishclinic as my 1 of the 2 final choice clinic. thus it will be irony and hypocritical to go against what i feel and write. before i write alot abt dr Chuang, last year, i used to write alot abt dr Jung too.

lastly, if what i recommended abt wishclinic is wrong, than there would not have been ppl coming back with good reviews abt the result and abt dr chuang svc.

personally, i am not from a rich family thus i dun have the luxury to redo and redo my PS nor do my ps locally or aboard with the famous doc. All the PS fees is i earned and saved by my hand. Thus i wanna share with those who has the same situation as me and i can understand how it feels to have low confident of ones look and yet doesnt really have the cash to fixed it. And Dr chuang happen to fit what i look for, not as expensive as local and korea docs but with good skill and attitude.

However thou i dun have much $, i dun mind paying more for safety, reputation and skills. thus i didnt do at any clinic which cost lower than even TW. most important is u must have confident with the Doc to entrust him with ur hands. currently i can only say i only have high confident in DR Jung, Dr Chuang, Dr Su and maybe Dr Sukit, thus i can and will only highly recommend these four docs here. the other doc i seldom write nor recommend is becoz i dun feel moret than 70% confident of them. lastly, i cant recommend or mentioned abt doc that i dunnoe much abt..

However i does know that what i am looking for in a doc and what i like abt a doc can be diff from the other persons thus i posted before that
u must have confidence in the doc u choose and let that doc do your PS.
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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 7:00 am

appletree wrote:Hi everyone,

Does anybody knows what's e diff between acute sinusitis due to infection, or allergic rhinoritis or sinusitis??
Acute sinusitis means very serious flu everyday?


Hi tanjhj,

If theres any acute or subacute infection that will show up during 2 months after operation, does that means that e doc will have to remove e implant off e nose?
:shock:


appletree,

Sori cant help you on ur question..

others,

regarding goretex and silicone, i have posted alot abt them before in my earlier posting. however i more or less have lost all the links and am pretty tired to find them all over again. if possible, u can look thru the past postings for more info.

i have reach a stage where i think that knowing PS procedures and materials is useful but eventually the best and most impt is still to find and know alot abt the doc who work on your nose and entrust him to use the best material he thinks is most suitable for you. thus choosing the best doc is the one of the most impt key in PS. next impt key is know what features you want and next is know ur budget and finally, accept that there is limit to what PS can do.

I hope ppl can understand what i m trying to say here. for me, i have chosen the doc and i will let him decide the best material within my budget.
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2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face

3)Work on your confidence 1st

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Re: smoking

Postby Velvet_CK » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:47 am

Shazza wrote:he mentioned a week before and a week after surgery. if you really need to smoke he says better to blow through mouth and not nose and throw the ciggie away after a few puffs...

i am hoping to quit before the surgery...think esp if i am doing a open rhino...might hinder the healing process


I'm a walking chimney myself. :cool: :cool:

Last year before & after my eyelid surgery, I continue smoking nonstop. Aiyah, personally I don't care, but then again, my case is not rhinoplasty. Maybe you can reduce your daily dosage of tar&nicotine to around less than 5 sticks per day. (I smoke around 20sticks per day).

So far my eyelids have no complications, but slight irritation whenever my eyes encounter smoke. (Who don't?)

Maybe you try sucking in lesser. Or buy those Ultra lights cigarettes. (Those 1mg-5mg tar ciggees)

Non-smokers won't understand the feelings of us when we aren't able to breathe in our "fresh air". :cool: :cool:

Maybe our Head of PS, Ocean can tell you more. Dajie.. got smoke after procedures anot? :lol:

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Postby leenaaaa » Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:49 pm

Velvet,

Hehe.. Nice to find other smokers.. For awhile I thought I was the only one! Let me know how you surgery goes, ok? Does your doctor speak English? If he does, do you mind giving me his email add? I am planning to go back to Korea for revision rhinoplasty to correct my crooked implant and perhaps define my nose a little more because they are more familiar with goretex. My first choice is Jung, but cost is also a consideration. Also, I am also a little scared to mess around with my nose again... going through the initial recovery period was a nightmare, and worried that I may not like my new nose!




Jovinliu

Keep us informed about your revision double eyelid surgery ok? Although my eyes are ok, I am thinking of getting a revision to get a higher parallel crease. If Dr Chuang does a good job with you, maybe I'll go to him!

Also, one question... I am planning to have revision lipo. From your research on Taiwanese forums, do you know if he is any good in this area? I am still deciding whether to go to Dr Chuang, or to go to Sappo. I visited Sappho last time I was in Taiwan and I really liked the service. However, I am a little apprehensive because apparently noone really talks about them in the forums and that they have allegedly photoshopped their results? What do you think?


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