Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[sweets]

hello everyone... another newcomer to the forum. i'm 19 and thinking of doing rhinoplasty either with dr chung(1st choice) or dr jung. i'm thinking of going to korea n taiwan this july/august for consultation first. any one going? msn: effulgents k y@hotmail.com (no spaces). any tips on what to ask them/make sure? i'm quite scared leh. i only saw yen's pictures and i think her nose is really natural! i think i might also check out kalo. is there a website for kalo? i just want a nose job la; no need for cheek or chin augmentation. would really love to see any pictures from any forummers. i'm also thinking of lipo, but uh, rhino first la.

what is the difference between I and L implant? i was looking at what cupidz said, and i don't really understand it... what triangle and dawn yang thing. can anyone help explain? and yes, goretex instead of silicone please. thanks in advance yupp

oh btw, any of the doctors (dr chung, dr jung or @ kalo(what's the doctor's name anyw?)) do digital imaging?

actually if usd4k-5k is not an issue to u for rhino, i suggest u go to dr jung straight as he is rather fatherly figure and spk english.

i recommend dr chuang is becoz for more budget minded ppl of this forum.

Im still a student oso and budget is definately not much. Can I know how much does Dr Chuang usually charge for rhinoplasty? And also if I want a longer more oval shape face, what are the PS procedures that I can do to make my face shape slimmer and longer? Someone or Tanjhj pls advice me. Tia.

[yen2006]

world will nvr be peace.. so does any forum..

don argue la.. all friend friend.. this place is to share the experience and information, so peace ok..

but, erm.. Tanjhj.. no offend.. i really think u should stop asking ppls to email u their photos and suggest to em wat to do, (which i told u long time ago, but u claim that u only wan to help one of the forumer to stand on her feet and u PM me to delete my post and i did! cos i tot u doing good deed, but u seem to get addicted by doing so..)

u might read alot about PS website or book, but doesnt mean u are train to do so.. furthermore, u have not been thru the ps at all except botox
i am sure there're alot of forumer here went thru so much more PS procedure then u, they just share their experience/info but not suggest others wat they should change on their face..

it really kind of u to share the info, but by 'acting' like a doc.. seriously can be quite annoying.. (some of ur info are wrong too, i know cos i email/called doc and ofcos i will trust the real doc rite? don ask me which one cos u posted too much, difficult to track.. hehe)

really.. info will do all the forumer well, let the real doc do their job.

But ofcos, if those forumer don mind to send u their photos (which i think it weird) pls by all means.. hehe

peace hor.. no offence.. u not happy can don read.. kidding kidding.. haha

Hi Ocean/Alan,

I agree with you, your posts speaks wat's on my mind too

Neverthless, I pray for peace in this forum

yen

[Angeluv101]

Hi all, I've been following this thread for awhile and understand that some of u mentioned this drug called sinEech can reduce swelling & bruising effectively. I'm currently recovering from my liposuction surgery 2nd week now and still experiencing much swelling. Was wondering if sineech can help to reduce my swelling at this stage?

[flymetothemoon]

world will nvr be peace.. so does any forum..

don argue la.. all friend friend.. this place is to share the experience and information, so peace ok..

but, erm.. Tanjhj.. no offend.. i really think u should stop asking ppls to email u their photos and suggest to em wat to do, (which i told u long time ago, but u claim that u only wan to help one of the forumer to stand on her feet and u PM me to delete my post and i did! cos i tot u doing good deed, but u seem to get addicted by doing so..)

u might read alot about PS website or book, but doesnt mean u are train to do so.. furthermore, u have not been thru the ps at all except botox
i am sure there're alot of forumer here went thru so much more PS procedure then u, they just share their experience/info but not suggest others wat they should change on their face..

it really kind of u to share the info, but by 'acting' like a doc.. seriously can be quite annoying.. (some of ur info are wrong too, i know cos i email/called doc and ofcos i will trust the real doc rite? don ask me which one cos u posted too much, difficult to track.. hehe)

really.. info will do all the forumer well, let the real doc do their job.

But ofcos, if those forumer don mind to send u their photos (which i think it weird) pls by all means.. hehe

peace hor.. no offence.. u not happy can don read.. kidding kidding.. haha

Hi Ocean/Alan,

I agree with you, your posts speaks wat's on my mind too

Neverthless, I pray for peace in this forum

yen

wah lau... talk feng liang wah... i believe in karma..what goes ard\ comes ard...i hope that person who say 'over-reacted" get the same thing..then see if its "over-reacted" to ur face or not...well?
poor thing..cannot sue the overseas dr or the "advisor"...

yen/ocean/icebell/alan, i support wat u ppl say too...

b4 u say, over-reacted...pls put urself in the gal's shoe.

wanna ask...we see tan b4...hv u? i believe i noe him the most here...
yen, wont u agree?

[jovinliu]

Sineech is supposed to be taken before and for the first 2 days after any surgery, i'm afraid it may seems too late now to take sineech.

Hi all, I've been following this thread for awhile and
understand that some of u mentioned this drug called sinEech can reduce swelling & bruising effectively. I'm currently recovering from my liposuction surgery 2nd week now and still experiencing much swelling. Was wondering if sineech can help to reduce my swelling at this stage?

[hello84]

anyone heard before Dr Xu frm clinic ALX??? heard tat he is famous in nose job and removing eyebag.. he is also Dr Jung student.. i was thinking of going there den wishclinic cosz heard tat Dr chuang skill is so so only although he is also one of Dr jung student... anyppl can advise mi..

[Angeluv101]

Sineech is supposed to be taken before and for the first 2 days after any surgery, i'm afraid it may seems too late now to take sineech.

Hi all, I've been following this thread for awhile and
understand that some of u mentioned this drug called sinEech can reduce swelling & bruising effectively. I'm currently recovering from my liposuction surgery 2nd week now and still experiencing much swelling. Was wondering if sineech can help to reduce my swelling at this stage?

thks jovin for the fast reply.. in dat case i wonder if there's any way to help the swelling go down faster as I did lipo on my legs and it is affecting me from walking normally now..sigh.. walkin like an ah ma now

btw, this is really a great & informative thread for ps.. thks to all those dat shared their knowledge & experiences.. Personally, I've done double eyelid in sg few yrs ago but i feel it wasn't properly done.. have actually went for revision already by the same surgeon. After comin across this thread, i came to know abt Dr Chuang and emailed him for advice. I'm quite comfortable with his suggestions actually and thinking of goin to him for my eyes & nose. Wonder if anyone here is planning to go to him sometime this year? Anyone else had done ps with him care to share more? thks!

[tanjhj]

world will nvr be peace.. so does any forum..

don argue la.. all friend friend.. this place is to share the experience and information, so peace ok..

but, erm.. Tanjhj.. no offend.. i really think u should stop asking ppls to email u their photos and suggest to em wat to do, (which i told u long time ago, but u claim that u only wan to help one of the forumer to stand on her feet and u PM me to delete my post and i did! cos i tot u doing good deed, but u seem to get addicted by doing so..)

u might read alot about PS website or book, but doesnt mean u are train to do so.. furthermore, u have not been thru the ps at all except botox
i am sure there're alot of forumer here went thru so much more PS procedure then u, they just share their experience/info but not suggest others wat they should change on their face..

it really kind of u to share the info, but by 'acting' like a doc.. seriously can be quite annoying.. (some of ur info are wrong too, i know cos i email/called doc and ofcos i will trust the real doc rite? don ask me which one cos u posted too much, difficult to track.. hehe)

really.. info will do all the forumer well, let the real doc do their job.

But ofcos, if those forumer don mind to send u their photos (which i think it weird) pls by all means.. hehe

peace hor.. no offence.. u not happy can don read.. kidding kidding.. haha

Hi Ocean/Alan,

I agree with you, your posts speaks wat's on my mind too

Neverthless, I pray for peace in this forum

yen

wah lau... talk feng liang wah... i believe in karma..what goes ard\ comes ard...i hope that person who say 'over-reacted" get the same thing..then see if its "over-reacted" to ur face or not...well?
poor thing..cannot sue the overseas dr or the "advisor"...

yen/ocean/icebell/alan, i support wat u ppl say too...

b4 u say, over-reacted...pls put urself in the gal's shoe.

wanna ask...we see tan b4...hv u? i believe i noe him the most here...
yen, wont u agree?

yes, she, flymetothemoon, noes me the most here.

next is yen and ecoli, i understand what ocean 11 said, i agree and i apologise for it.

nevetheless, all i can say is that i feel it is ok then to advise even thou i am not certified or something as there are consultants in PS saloon oversea giving advise and doing sales w/o any cert or so. and i am very vexed becoz ppl choose to listen to this sales ppl recommendation instead, but then it is the customer's freedom.

nevertheless i did wrong somewhere and yes, like what some said, maybe karma bah. so i will stake my own PS to karma, if what i did for flymetothemoon, yen and other ppl of this forums or ppl who emailed or msn me is wrong then let my own year end PS failed misearbly. if what i did is not wrong, just let me heal well and enjoy my PS. i hope this can appease ppl who disagree with me.
other than this, there is nothing much i can do.

[tanjhj]

just to share something,

just came back from nite entertainment. it is a long time since i went for one. realise that the new generation are better looking and more taste in dressing. however i also realise there is alot more PS faces. I feel i am getting old with ppl doing their PS so young and i havent do mine..

all i can say i realise abt PS only at sept 2006 abit too late but than i not giving up on PS. i asked if i can be become like 80% close to this jap idols

and dr chuang said yes and gave me his precise procedures steps and price. all i can say after listening to alot of "sori", "cant" and "but" from other doctors. his words is like water to my spirit and from than onwards i am converted. and he is the only one who write in confidence and in details every step what he is going to do to help me achieved my desired looks.

book my date on july 2007 and price straight away with him. negotiated with him if i can get more ppl to him can have more discount (old habit as i was from purchasing dept), he agrees and said all those recommended bought by me will recv'd extra discount.

due to Jovin recommendation, i agree it is better to do it at year end when the weather in either TW or KR is colloer, better and suitable for healing.. furthermore i intend to go sightseeing after the 5th day then to stay in my room... my 3 days jan suppose PS trip with dr Sukit to Thailand areadi almost killed me, cooling days are way better as i wont sweat and risk infection.

looking forward to year end.. if i can stay firm till year end bonus comes, i can even go to Kr... tempting and confusing at the same time..

hey there, glad that you are feeling happy. do u mind sharing with us what are the ''exact procedures'' to achieve the jap idols face according to ur consultation? i think another pic to show Ps surgeons will be won bin's. very natural.

Hi tan,

Yes I saw the pics you attached to me. It is possible for you to "look like" that Jap idol because you all have a longer face. For this purpose I will suggest the following procedures:
1. Open rhinoplasty with corrective osteotomy: You have a slight deviated nose(C-shape) and a little wide base over nasal bone and alar base. The nasal tip is okay. We should correct the bony part with osteotomy to make your nose more "narrowing" and straight, then increase the dorsal height with implant or Goretex. The total cost including osteotomy procedure should be NT80000 but I will give you the best price.
Now you should understand the whole contents of rhinoplasty that I will suggest you are:
Dorsal augmentation with Goretex/silicone implant
Corrective osteotomy of nasal bone
Tiplasty with septal cartilage graft
Tip centralization with dome sutures and cartilage reposition
Alar reduction and nostril narrowing
However please understand that all saloon pics have been modified already. We can creat a nose which is similar to idol but not the same.
2. Double eyelid surgery with lateral canthoplasty: Please see the idol's lower eyelash. He has a more loosening or curvatural shape than you. That's no doubt that you can have a very natural double eyelid through Korean upper belpharoplasty. However if you want the bigger eyes like him I would shggest you to receive lateral canthoplasty additionally. The cost of upper blepharoplasty combined with lateral canthoplasty is NT34000 totally. Of course that's not a package price.
So the eyes job will be:
Korean upper blepharoplasty
Lateral canthoplasty
3. Mole excision: That's a simple procedure. You can take it out anytime you want. The scar will go away after half an year.
4. Brow lifting: I don't think its a good idea for you at this moment because this procedure will cause an unatural appearance for a man with quite heavy eyebrow. I would suggest you to have eyebrow hair removal or reshaping just like many girls do.
5. Forehead depression: The best procedure to correct your forehead dimpling is perment filler injection. There are several good materials to get. I will recommand Aquamid(Denmark) or Bio-Alkamid(Italia) for choice. THese two materials will make the result perfect.

How do you think about my suggestions? Please keep in touch with me anytime.

Chuang

wow, scary. cannot deny he looks nice la, but i THINK la in my opinion if really do all the mentioned procedures hoh..will be like him and this is perfection liao ma..not trying to ENHANCE..i think for ordinary ppl, the rhino and eyes should be sufficient..btw, dr chuang is frm TW rite?

takuda,

not looking for perfection lah. the procedure he quoted is pretty normal and simple surgery except the nose surgery which there is two steps i needed to rectify my slightly deviated nose, else the implant will slant to one side after operation.

POINT 1 is just
open incision korean style nose. Corrective osteotomy of nasal bone,
Tip centralization with dome sutures and cartilage reposition. this two is usually not required for normal ppl going for Korean nose thats why my nose surgery is so ex.
Point 2 is double eyelid with KYW.

Point 3 and 4 is just simple mole removal and filler injection, which i did at thailand, u can do it at some facial saloon too.

[tanjhj]

Yah i also conclude that she don't do revision. Paiseh i am going to Dr Chuang not Chiang... haiyah all these taiwanese the surname almost the same one... Hsu lah Su lah Chuang lah Chiang lah....

What name should i quote when i go visit Dr Chuang (Chuang right? from wish clinic) next month? I made an appointment with him. You mentioned that quote your name got more discount mahhhh...



/Jovin

To confirm, the Dr Su from Taipei who does very good job in double eyelid surgery is 蘇惠珍醫師, her clinic is 電眼美人診所 right? Better make sure i get the right Dr Su... hee.



/Jovin

Yupz jovin, the doc is DR su of 電眼美人診所. however i think she dun really do revision as someone called her before and she asked him to go back to his 1st doctor. FYI if u thinking of revision.

anyway, i read u are going to dr Chiang. is he the one from magic clinic or something there. sori i kinda lost lots of URL of PS docs since i cleared my cache..

Jovin,

actually dr su does revision but hardly, coz i got call the clinic onced to ask for a forumer behalf. the nurse said she will always ask u 1st to go back to the 1st doc as the doc who operate on you coz only he knew what he did to ur eyes. she is very safe doctor who cherish her reputation alot and she dun need to take complex surgery and risk unhappiness as her 1st time patient is areadi more than enough

[tanjhj]

actually beside wishclinic there is still sone clinic are not bad do korean style for nose job maybe you all can check the website... but i am not sure wat the doctor name cosz i not veri good in chinese..

www.alx.com.tw
www.beautycare.com.tw

the 2nd clinic i got recommended this clinic as a male PS clinic before

http://www.beautycare.com.tw/male/nose.html

but i didnt follow up much on this doctor coz of his price. if u register with his website, u can see his price.

[tanjhj]

Hey all. I'm at the more than 2 months mark,already settled for the eyes. so I thought i'd post a pic, In case anyone forgot, I had 6 Procedures together from Dr. C in December,28 2006. Its from front side, and profile side, and 3/4 side. but its pictures all just of my eyes. Im sory Im not able to post my full pictures on forum cos of privacy. Just to give pictures at least you already know and help u all to decided.
If any interested too se my full pictures, can msn me coz, I just display it in my msn. ok.
I've try to make photo of my eyes as close as possible with clear view. so can compare it.
My eyes cases is =
- Sligtly Ptosis ( loss of fat)
- Multiple creases Lid
- Tired looking
- Droppy of eyes skin (hanging skin) made eyelash drop down as eyes cant open optimally.

Procedures of eyes
- double eye lid with korean technique ( medium paralel lid ) + Lateral-cantho + epi-cantho.

And as being a male, my ps made it shape just like mens eyes, which is more heavy and and not too big of the eyeball show as opposed femaled needed.
..................... CLick it :

http://img222.imageshack.us/slideshow/p ... 55xiz.smil

hey hey very nice.. can tel you are very handsome. wer did you do? mind share share..

ironically, Dr Chuang is his doctor who did the PS.

[tanjhj]

Hi tanjhj,
Would like to have some advises from you. Dr. Chuang suggest i do epicanthoplasty without any other eyelid surgery instead. But he told me that this epicanthoplasty wil makes my eye have more spirits... ermm... but im thinking to make it looks more bigger leh, keke
I've done some research on epicanthoplasty but i still dont quite understand how this epicanthoplasty can do to enchance my eyes to look more define & benefits to me.. duhz
Do u have any msn messenger? if do, pls pm me... thanks

Yes, 1stly Dr chuang, why i recommend him alot is that he dun recommend procedures which he he think u dun need. thus he is not really a sales-oriented doc.

as for him to recommend epicanthoplasty only, he must have think ur eyelid is big and nice enough so he may just wanna remove the excess flab from the inner corner of your eyes to make it bigger/wider and also to make ur eyes look closer together and not so wide apart thus resulting in more harmonious looking eyes.
also after doing epicanthoplasty, u inner corner of ur eye will look sharper and at the edge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthal_fold

i have PM u my msn.

[tanjhj]

Sineech is supposed to be taken before and for the first 2 days after any surgery, i'm afraid it may seems too late now to take sineech.

Hi all, I've been following this thread for awhile and
understand that some of u mentioned this drug called sinEech can reduce swelling & bruising effectively. I'm currently recovering from my liposuction surgery 2nd week now and still experiencing much swelling. Was wondering if sineech can help to reduce my swelling at this stage?

thks jovin for the fast reply.. in dat case i wonder if there's any way to help the swelling go down faster as I did lipo on my legs and it is affecting me from walking normally now..sigh.. walkin like an ah ma now

btw, this is really a great & informative thread for ps.. thks to all those dat shared their knowledge & experiences.. Personally, I've done double eyelid in sg few yrs ago but i feel it wasn't properly done.. have actually went for revision already by the same surgeon. After comin across this thread, i came to know abt Dr Chuang and emailed him for advice. I'm quite comfortable with his suggestions actually and thinking of goin to him for my eyes & nose. Wonder if anyone here is planning to go to him sometime this year? Anyone else had done ps with him care to share more? thks!

i will be going there for my operation this year end. however, if bonus is good this year and i save enough. may fly directly to korea for dr Jung instead.

thou i have book my opeartion and fix my price with dr chuang areadi, i told him abt dr jung and he is ok that i may choose dr jung as my final doctor.

[tanjhj]

Did anyone's face swell after doing eyes & nose? It's been 4 days since I did mine and I notice my face is swelling. -_-

different ppl react differently, most ppl have some form of swelling after the Nose job, dun worry too much, give ur doc a call or let him take a look.

take some vitamins c, it may help in ur healing