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Re: safe?

Postby jovinliu » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 1:22 pm

Wah lao whole day stay in room where got fun... unless i pain until i cannot tahan or my swollen look will scare the shit out of someone, i will just cover-up and go out!

Wa lao do eyes/nose/chin only, no need so kua zhang hide in room bahhhh... unless do jaw reduction and your head wrap until like a bah zhang, then of course it's wise to stay in-door to avoid scaring someone... if not people thought they see a ghost who's head wrap until like wanton.



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jovinliu wrote:Simple! Wear specs with tinted lenses!



/Jovin

rainbow5 wrote:Hi who,

I travelled to Taipei alone for a couple of days before my friends joined me later on.

Personally, I think its quite safe in Taipei as long as you dun stay out late alone. One thing in Taiwan is that their 6+pm in the evening looks like our 9-10pm so their night comes much faster than ours. Try to stay inbound when the night falls & it shd be ok.

Taipei is super convenient as everywhere is mrt, even a road blind like me wun get lost there. But one thing if u are having surgery there is how u gonna take care of urself & ur daily 3 meals if u are alone & with ur super duper swollen eyes, its gonna be rather difficult. This is one of my major concerns which stopped me from going to Taiwan for surgery.

Anyone have advice how to overcome this?? Wld be very much appreciated.

who wrote:Is it safe for a girl to travel to Taiwan alone?


Heh, another alternative is wear a cap and bring it low to ur eye brow. That's what i did during the 1st week.


another one is Order Room Service ! u don have to step out of the room..but when u back.. u gonna put on few kg on weight.. hehehe.. :P
Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?

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Postby appletree » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 2:49 pm

Hi tanjhj,
Would like to have some advises from you. Dr. Chuang suggest i do epicanthoplasty without any other eyelid surgery instead. But he told me that this epicanthoplasty wil makes my eye have more spirits... ermm... but im thinking to make it looks more bigger leh, keke
I've done some research on epicanthoplasty but i still dont quite understand how this epicanthoplasty can do to enchance my eyes to look more define & benefits to me.. duhz
Do u have any msn messenger? if do, pls pm me... thanks

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PS clinic in taiwan

Postby hello84 » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 3:46 pm

actually beside wishclinic there is still sone clinic are not bad do korean style for nose job maybe you all can check the website... but i am not sure wat the doctor name cosz i not veri good in chinese..:)

www.alx.com.tw
www.beautycare.com.tw

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Postby kaka » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 6:02 pm

jovinliu wrote:Yah i also conclude that she don't do revision. Paiseh i am going to Dr Chuang not Chiang... haiyah all these taiwanese the surname almost the same one... Hsu lah Su lah Chuang lah Chiang lah....

What name should i quote when i go visit Dr Chuang (Chuang right? from wish clinic) next month? I made an appointment with him. You mentioned that quote your name got more discount mahhhh...



/Jovin


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jovinliu wrote:To confirm, the Dr Su from Taipei who does very good job in double eyelid surgery is 蘇惠珍醫師, her clinic is 電眼美人診所 right? Better make sure i get the right Dr Su... hee.



/Jovin



Yupz jovin, the doc is DR su of 電眼美人診所. however i think she dun really do revision as someone called her before and she asked him to go back to his 1st doctor. FYI if u thinking of revision.

anyway, i read u are going to dr Chiang. is he the one from magic clinic or something there. sori i kinda lost lots of URL of PS docs since i cleared my cache..


hihi jovin, what u gonna do with dr chuang??

to reconfirm, dr su don't do revision yep! wasted ar
who does gd revision for eyes???

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Postby takuda » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 6:12 pm

tanjhj wrote:
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tanjhj wrote:just to share something,

just came back from nite entertainment. it is a long time since i went for one. realise that the new generation are better looking and more taste in dressing. however i also realise there is alot more PS faces. I feel i am getting old with ppl doing their PS so young and i havent do mine..

all i can say i realise abt PS only at sept 2006 abit too late but than i not giving up on PS. i asked if i can be become like 80% close to this jap idolsImage

and dr chuang said yes and gave me his precise procedures steps and price. all i can say after listening to alot of "sori", "cant" and "but" from other doctors. his words is like water to my spirit and from than onwards i am converted. and he is the only one who write in confidence and in details every step what he is going to do to help me achieved my desired looks.

book my date on july 2007 and price straight away with him. negotiated with him if i can get more ppl to him can have more discount (old habit as i was from purchasing dept), he agrees and said all those recommended bought by me will recv'd extra discount.

due to Jovin recommendation, i agree it is better to do it at year end when the weather in either TW or KR is colloer, better and suitable for healing.. furthermore i intend to go sightseeing after the 5th day then to stay in my room... my 3 days jan suppose PS trip with dr Sukit to Thailand areadi almost killed me, cooling days are way better as i wont sweat and risk infection.

looking forward to year end.. if i can stay firm till year end bonus comes, i can even go to Kr... tempting and confusing at the same time..


hey there, glad that you are feeling happy. do u mind sharing with us what are the ''exact procedures'' to achieve the jap idols face according to ur consultation? i think another pic to show Ps surgeons will be won bin's. very natural.


Hi tan,

Yes I saw the pics you attached to me. It is possible for you to "look like" that Jap idol because you all have a longer face. For this purpose I will suggest the following procedures:
1. Open rhinoplasty with corrective osteotomy: You have a slight deviated nose(C-shape) and a little wide base over nasal bone and alar base. The nasal tip is okay. We should correct the bony part with osteotomy to make your nose more "narrowing" and straight, then increase the dorsal height with implant or Goretex. The total cost including osteotomy procedure should be NT80000 but I will give you the best price.
Now you should understand the whole contents of rhinoplasty that I will suggest you are:
Dorsal augmentation with Goretex/silicone implant
Corrective osteotomy of nasal bone
Tiplasty with septal cartilage graft
Tip centralization with dome sutures and cartilage reposition
Alar reduction and nostril narrowing
However please understand that all saloon pics have been modified already. We can creat a nose which is similar to idol but not the same.
2. Double eyelid surgery with lateral canthoplasty: Please see the idol's lower eyelash. He has a more loosening or curvatural shape than you. That's no doubt that you can have a very natural double eyelid through Korean upper belpharoplasty. However if you want the bigger eyes like him I would shggest you to receive lateral canthoplasty additionally. The cost of upper blepharoplasty combined with lateral canthoplasty is NT34000 totally. Of course that's not a package price.
So the eyes job will be:
Korean upper blepharoplasty
Lateral canthoplasty
3. Mole excision: That's a simple procedure. You can take it out anytime you want. The scar will go away after half an year.
4. Brow lifting: I don't think its a good idea for you at this moment because this procedure will cause an unatural appearance for a man with quite heavy eyebrow. I would suggest you to have eyebrow hair removal or reshaping just like many girls do.
5. Forehead depression: The best procedure to correct your forehead dimpling is perment filler injection. There are several good materials to get. I will recommand Aquamid(Denmark) or Bio-Alkamid(Italia) for choice. THese two materials will make the result perfect.

How do you think about my suggestions? Please keep in touch with me anytime.

Chuang


wow, scary. cannot deny he looks nice la, but i THINK la in my opinion if really do all the mentioned procedures hoh..will be like him and this is perfection liao ma..not trying to ENHANCE..i think for ordinary ppl, the rhino and eyes should be sufficient..btw, dr chuang is frm TW rite? :)
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Postby takuda » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 6:15 pm

and can someone give me the email add? :D
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Postby takuda » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 6:34 pm

jovinliu wrote:Mesotherapy is something that might work, or might not work. It's not proven to work actually.

Smartlipo can only help if you want to do contouring i.e. not removing too much fats.



/Jovin

takuda wrote:i heard smartlipo can remove double chin. heard mesotherapy can too. anyone had them?



contouring = remove double chin? actually its not fats its just like how do i say..like saggy skin..can pull and ABIT of fats but loose loose de not the hard hard fats kind..
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Postby Alan_luv_liyun » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 6:38 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Alan_luv_liyun,

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are also entitled to air your views here with no problem. HOWEVER, when you start to slag others repeatedly like a bitter little troll, I find that it is a bit over the top. You made your opinion known in your first post. You have now made 10 posts all slagging another forumer. Not only that you use very low class posting ettiquette like using all caps or all bold face type. I have deliberately diminished your posts because from what I see, you are apparently advertising you personal problem in your signature line. That is why you are apparently "talking cock".

Now, I would suggest that you do two things. The first one is back off the attacking others like a troll and two, change your signature so that your don't continue to look like one of the s****boy's regulars. If you cannot refrain from slagging other posters you will leave me no choice but to block your account.

You have had your ONLY warning.

As far as "tanjhj" is concerned, most regulars on this forum already know that he is not a doc but a person who has done a lot of reading on the subject. In any case, who would do something on the advice of a written word from someone they don't know. This is only a forum for sharing knowledge, be it the book learned type or experienced type. It's all worth something. Also, Caveat Emptor ..........

Everybody should do their own research just like we do when dealing with other's trying to flog off miracle tonics via MLM's.

moderator.


dear moderator,

wld u like to hear a story?

Few months back, my fren told me she read this forum, and learnt a lot abt PS from this guy. so, she used ALL her hard-earned $ and went overseas for her PS. she was very optimistic abt it. and as a fren, i did not think much, but gave her all my blessing.

However, what she got from the PS conflicts with what was promised by the surgeon earlier...*and all the drama mama occured*... she returned back to singapore, disappointed.

now, she was no longer the jovial fren i used to know. she was in sheer despair, and had a depression due to her PS.

so tell me, moderator, do u know hw it feels like to see yr fren in devastation?
have u sped in the middle of the night, just to arrive at her place to see her collapsing on the floor, in despair, crying?
have u wiped those hot tears from her face?
words of comfort like,"dun cry...it'll be all right..." have ALL-ALL become desensitised, like spoken to deaf ears. she was so defenceless, and helpless, AND YET, as a fren, i cld do- nothing. NOTHING AT ALL.

I watched her crying to sleep that night, what did u see, moderator?

some say, opinons come with a price and responsibility. I do not noe what "HE" has paid for his "not-happy-dun-read-post". but my fren, she has paid a far too heavy price n painful trauma for it. tell me, moderator, is it fair? (DUN tell me abt the all risk abt PS..no gurantee results or whatsoever, i hv done my nose, i noe. BUT the fact is, someone HERE has been victimized by another's fantasy of being a "dr", and listen to him).

I do not noe if u understand the severity of this. but it was a toll on her. physically, emotionally, and financially... and tell me, who inflicited such pain on her? she is a kind gal, yes, vain... But she is completely-harmless, and used-to-be-very-chatty...that's about it!

undeniably, i admit, she's a lil too NAIVE... but does she deserve this? (y dun u tell me, moderator? what if this happen to yr loved ones..tell me what u'll do) i dun wish to dwell into this anymore. its all up to u ppl to listen or not. my objective here is to warn. that's it.

my profound apologies if u find my post very "low class", i can only say, m no SAINT. and i cant treat this person with much civility anymore... if u were me, will u?

moderator, if THIS to u, is 'apparently "talking cock"', den, i do not noe what talking sense is anymore...
If only u cld see those broken smiles she tried to conceal her deepest sorrow, you wldn't say that anymore...

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Re: safe?

Postby jeanny » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:20 pm

Hi Jovin,

I've to thank you for your earlier reply msgs to get Sinnech. It really helps to reduce the swelling.

For others who are doing surgery, I'll also recommend to get a a Arnica Montana cream (sold in Guardian pharmacies ~ $15) to be used after completion of Sinnech. I wasn't given any cream to apply after surgery on the bruise areas. I'm glad that I've Sinnech and this cream ready.

Talking about kau zhang about the earlier post from rainbow5...For me, I stayed in hotel for 4 full days before stepping out to wander around cos I felt groggy during the first few days after the op. I think it depends on individual..

Thanks again.

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Re: safe?

Postby yen2006 » Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:28 pm

jeanny wrote:Hi Jovin,

I've to thank you for your earlier reply msgs to get Sinnech. It really helps to reduce the swelling.

For others who are doing surgery, I'll also recommend to get a a Arnica Montana cream (sold in Guardian pharmacies ~ $15) to be used after completion of Sinnech. I wasn't given any cream to apply after surgery on the bruise areas. I'm glad that I've Sinnech and this cream ready.

Talking about kau zhang about the earlier post from rainbow5...For me, I stayed in hotel for 4 full days before stepping out to wander around cos I felt groggy during the first few days after the op. I think it depends on individual..

Thanks again.


Hi,

can I know if Arnica Montana cream can be apply to the wound/stitches area?

Coz will be doing my alarplasty this sun, wonder can this cream be apply on the wound?

thanks
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Postby appletree » Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:04 am

Alan_luv_liyun wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Alan_luv_liyun,

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are also entitled to air your views here with no problem. HOWEVER, when you start to slag others repeatedly like a bitter little troll, I find that it is a bit over the top. You made your opinion known in your first post. You have now made 10 posts all slagging another forumer. Not only that you use very low class posting ettiquette like using all caps or all bold face type. I have deliberately diminished your posts because from what I see, you are apparently advertising you personal problem in your signature line. That is why you are apparently "talking cock".

Now, I would suggest that you do two things. The first one is back off the attacking others like a troll and two, change your signature so that your don't continue to look like one of the s****boy's regulars. If you cannot refrain from slagging other posters you will leave me no choice but to block your account.

You have had your ONLY warning.

As far as "tanjhj" is concerned, most regulars on this forum already know that he is not a doc but a person who has done a lot of reading on the subject. In any case, who would do something on the advice of a written word from someone they don't know. This is only a forum for sharing knowledge, be it the book learned type or experienced type. It's all worth something. Also, Caveat Emptor ..........

Everybody should do their own research just like we do when dealing with other's trying to flog off miracle tonics via MLM's.

moderator.


dear moderator,

wld u like to hear a story?

Few months back, my fren told me she read this forum, and learnt a lot abt PS from this guy. so, she used ALL her hard-earned $ and went overseas for her PS. she was very optimistic abt it. and as a fren, i did not think much, but gave her all my blessing.

However, what she got from the PS conflicts with what was promised by the surgeon earlier...*and all the drama mama occured*... she returned back to singapore, disappointed.

now, she was no longer the jovial fren i used to know. she was in sheer despair, and had a depression due to her PS.

so tell me, moderator, do u know hw it feels like to see yr fren in devastation?
have u sped in the middle of the night, just to arrive at her place to see her collapsing on the floor, in despair, crying?
have u wiped those hot tears from her face?
words of comfort like,"dun cry...it'll be all right..." have ALL-ALL become desensitised, like spoken to deaf ears. she was so defenceless, and helpless, AND YET, as a fren, i cld do- nothing. NOTHING AT ALL.

I watched her crying to sleep that night, what did u see, moderator?

some say, opinons come with a price and responsibility. I do not noe what "HE" has paid for his "not-happy-dun-read-post". but my fren, she has paid a far too heavy price n painful trauma for it. tell me, moderator, is it fair? (DUN tell me abt the all risk abt PS..no gurantee results or whatsoever, i hv done my nose, i noe. BUT the fact is, someone HERE has been victimized by another's fantasy of being a "dr", and listen to him).

I do not noe if u understand the severity of this. but it was a toll on her. physically, emotionally, and financially... and tell me, who inflicited such pain on her? she is a kind gal, yes, vain... But she is completely-harmless, and used-to-be-very-chatty...that's about it!

undeniably, i admit, she's a lil too NAIVE... but does she deserve this? (y dun u tell me, moderator? what if this happen to yr loved ones..tell me what u'll do) i dun wish to dwell into this anymore. its all up to u ppl to listen or not. my objective here is to warn. that's it.

my profound apologies if u find my post very "low class", i can only say, m no SAINT. and i cant treat this person with much civility anymore... if u were me, will u?

moderator, if THIS to u, is 'apparently "talking cock"', den, i do not noe what talking sense is anymore...



Hello alan,

apparently. i think u really have over reacted. What have happened to your frend, i believe everyone will feel sorry for her. But u cant blame it on tanjhj. Wether a person wants to do it or not, its up to the person's decision herself & the doctor's advise when he or she visit e doc for consultation before they went in to the surgery room. I believe nobody will be that naive enough to walk straight in to e surgery room to have their face done without consultations by e doc rite?
And i believe tanjhj didnt use a gun to point at ur fren's head to force her to go & do ps rite?

Please no hard feelings but thats not e way to vest ur anger on this tanjhj.
We are all adults pls, & if any ps goes wrong , u should be going back to e doc who operated on u & not that person who gave the advise lor.
Whose e one trying to make things big here, i believe everyone can see.
This forum is a place for us to share views n advises .. n not for insulting or scolding people in here.

MAybe u guys may think that im beri kapo in here but sorry, i really cant help it to see the way one person can use vulgurism & pin pointing someone in here out of nothing.

ADVISES are just for you to have alternative ways for you to decide on something. U want to take up e advise or not is up to u, u cant blame others.
But , how sucessful is e Ps, stilldepends on e skill of the DOCTOR, not tanjhj. Anyway, tanjhj is not the one who operated on ur frend's face, correct me if im wrong.

So lets clear the air n move on, what has already happened has happened.... i believe ur frend still can find ways to redo her ps.

And pls hor, im not trying to side on tanjh, as i hardly know u guys too, Im just stating facts on a passerby's point of view.

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Postby taurus19 » Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:33 am

cupid^n^starz wrote:Hey all. I'm at the more than 2 months mark,already settled for the eyes. so I thought i'd post a pic, In case anyone forgot, I had 6 Procedures together from Dr. C in December,28 2006. Its from front side, and profile side, and 3/4 side. but its pictures all just of my eyes. Im sory Im not able to post my full pictures on forum cos of privacy. Just to give pictures at least you already know and help u all to decided.
If any interested too se my full pictures, can msn me coz, I just display it in my msn. ok.
I've try to make photo of my eyes as close as possible with clear view. so can compare it.
My eyes cases is =
- Sligtly Ptosis ( loss of fat)
- Multiple creases Lid
- Tired looking
- Droppy of eyes skin (hanging skin) made eyelash drop down as eyes cant open optimally.

Procedures of eyes
- double eye lid with korean technique ( medium paralel lid ) + Lateral-cantho + epi-cantho.

And as being a male, my ps made it shape just like mens eyes, which is more heavy and and not too big of the eyeball show as opposed femaled needed.
..................... CLick it :

http://img222.imageshack.us/slideshow/p ... 55xiz.smil


hey hey very nice.. can tel you are very handsome. wer did you do? mind share share..
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Postby who » Tue, 20 Mar 2007 2:13 am

Alan,

What happened to your friend? Is she ok now? Where did she go?

Hope the best.

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Alarplasty

Postby jeanny » Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:51 am

To Blackcreamer,

I'd my alarplasty done together with rhino earlier this month. The stitching is done inside and the only thing you'll see is 2 slight cuts at the base of the alar wings which are also stitched up. The stitches are taken after a week and so far no infections or pus or whatsoever, just dried blood clots and pinkish wounds.

I kept my nose as dry as possible for around 10 days by washing with facial foam and cleaning with wet towel till all the cleanser is gone (thanks to jovin for this tip). Your nose will also itch sometimes as those wounds heals, just ignore the itch. Also no nose picking or rubbing, i only dare to clean the insides of the nose with cotton buds after 2 weeks, gently and carefully.

I should say that my upper lip felt a little stiff and laughing hard can hurt. So try to relax and don't laugh too much.. but this will go away with time. It's been 3 weeks since i did my ps. so far so good. most important, the recovary varies with each individual on how they take care of it and how it heals.

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Postby perfume » Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:15 pm

Did anyone's face swell after doing eyes & nose? It's been 4 days since I did mine and I notice my face is swelling. -_- :shock:


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