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Postby cupid^n^starz » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 6:58 pm

tanjhj wrote:Others,

Do not just simply listen to what ppl post here. the best is still u check out everything urself. email or call the doc for confirmation yourself. u muz personally like, comfy with and trust the doc skill's else it will not be advisable to do overseas... so yah try to have company to go if possible.
lastly, u need to know if the doctor will do what u want. some doc like seah and sukit dun offer drastic changes so u may want to consider korea or dr chuang if u wanna drastic result..


Yes, You're right Tanjhj. Im totally agreed with this.
I ever told to a forumer not remember thenickname, bout this too, to avoid any bad things.

want to share a little story, I Have a cauasian Friend who's already done surgeries with one The best Facial Implant surgeon in the world. The , Let me say ; Master Of Facial Implant. He's the leading whos published Famouos book in plastic surgery "The art of Facial Implant" , He already spended USD$20K done 3 procedures facial Implant ( Jaw, Chin, Cheek) but end up with 2 times revision surgery and The cheek implant (shifted) and chin implant (dissplacement) which is need to be taken out.USD$20000 going to trash as flush out in toilet, and he had to cash out another USD$25k for the revision. Infact My friend is already dead broke and still get PS. taking out loans.

The BOTTOM LINE is I just want to let forumer here know that even with the Best of the best surgeons... sometimes things don't go 100% as planned. Just remember... no surgeon is 100%, alll... the time. That's WHY we still Definitely do our own research and know exactly what we'd like to achieve with intraoperative details of any procedures.
It is just simply our duty as a patient AND simply to avoid blaming each other if get dissatisfied, cause we're should know as we're all here just try to share our personal experiences each other, what they know, what they ever heard bout top Ps. . But still,The ball is in our hand. Its your surgery,your own research, your own money you ,Have your doc show you on your face, Knowing that surgery is NOT exact and there are variables that can throw things off sometimes, Then you gotta decided.

PS isn't a Guarantee for happiness; It's a Hope for happiness.

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Postby cupid^n^starz » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 7:20 pm

takuda wrote:
tanjhj wrote:appletree,

silicone is till safest implant currently however it still have risk of infection thus it is advisable to build ur ur immune system before going for ur op.

as for dr sukit. yupz he is a good doc who give u a natural looking nose. however if u are asking for drastic change in ur nose, i would still suggest dr chuang


silicon really safest?? :???: i heard of many complications for silicon..but at the same time it is the most popular and commonly used one...

but haven't heard of complications for goretex..thats what made me think goretex is better.. :lol: ahhh, so confusing..


Yes. As long term in case need removal silicone is more easy,. thats why silicone more safley than goretex. cause in long term - soft tissuse let ingrowth to its goretex , in the end it makes goretex not easy to removed and risk damaging nose tissue, as opposed silicone not.

back then its all depend or the surgeon skill and ability, If the surgeon is conversant using Gore-tex, then revision case should not be a problem for him/her.
And yes, gore-tex is more expensive but not just because of it, the end result or aesthetically is better than silicone. Its not at all . Then, back again to ps skill and ability. :D
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Postby appletree » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 7:23 pm

cupid^n^starz wrote:
takuda wrote:
tanjhj wrote:appletree,

silicone is till safest implant currently however it still have risk of infection thus it is advisable to build ur ur immune system before going for ur op.

as for dr sukit. yupz he is a good doc who give u a natural looking nose. however if u are asking for drastic change in ur nose, i would still suggest dr chuang


silicon really safest?? :???: i heard of many complications for silicon..but at the same time it is the most popular and commonly used one...

but haven't heard of complications for goretex..thats what made me think goretex is better.. :lol: ahhh, so confusing..


Yes. As long term in case need removal silicone is more easy,. thats why silicone more safley than goretex. cause in long term - soft tissuse let ingrowth to its goretex , in the end it makes goretex not easy to removed and risk damaging nose tissue, as opposed silicone not.

back then its all depend or the surgeon skill and ability, If the surgeon is conversant using Gore-tex, then revision case should not be a problem for him/her.



Oh, issit both either silicone & goretex, if theres a possible side effects, it will happens even many years later ?? :shock:

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Postby jovinliu » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 7:38 pm

Yup mine is L implant, yes it enhance both tip and bridge. What you mean by separate procedure? No it's just 1 procedure to insert the L implant in. Dr Hsu did not increase his price, still NTD$28000. If you only want to do rhinoplasty, S$4k is more than enough.

vickyabc wrote:Hi Jovin.. wow so many raves on how pretty you r! Im new here.. Desperate to do rhino!! my bridge and the tip! considering ur surgeon.. understood u did ur nose job in 2005. And insert a L thingy right? does it enhance the tip and bridge together? or it has to be done on separated procedure? has the price increased now? if i prepare a total of S$4k enough? can u e mail a pic of ur before and after nose job for me..
sorry for soo many request..

Vicky_abc@hotmail.com

Actually wanted to go Yanhee but read that they doing I implant only right? my main concern is my darn tip!!

Any other recommendation guys???
Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?

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Postby cupid^n^starz » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 7:43 pm

appletree wrote:
Oh, issit both either silicone & goretex, if theres a possible side effects, it will happens even many years later ?? :shock:


Eih.. appletree. dont be sshocked to death lah... hehe. im sory dont mean to.
terms of Gore-tex, Its ok for goretex as if the revision is done in short term right after first surgery .Not taken out more than 1 month at least.
Ofcourse its not a problem at all in long term as you're already happy and like your nose once and for all , right? :wink:

Just in case if you need somekind of revision in the years later caused by accident maybe?( knocking wood! ) thats would be the problem as with gore-tex,and you need to think carefully bout it too. maybe it could be avoided with discussion properly with ps to get the shape and size just like what you desired of ur new nose.
Also, it could avoid for second revision in short term which is not good at all for your nose tissue whether use gore-tex or silicone.

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Postby takuda » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 9:01 pm

cupid^n^starz wrote:
takuda wrote:
tanjhj wrote:appletree,

silicone is till safest implant currently however it still have risk of infection thus it is advisable to build ur ur immune system before going for ur op.

as for dr sukit. yupz he is a good doc who give u a natural looking nose. however if u are asking for drastic change in ur nose, i would still suggest dr chuang


silicon really safest?? :???: i heard of many complications for silicon..but at the same time it is the most popular and commonly used one...

but haven't heard of complications for goretex..thats what made me think goretex is better.. :lol: ahhh, so confusing..


Yes. As long term in case need removal silicone is more easy,. thats why silicone more safley than goretex. cause in long term - soft tissuse let ingrowth to its goretex , in the end it makes goretex not easy to removed and risk damaging nose tissue, as opposed silicone not.

back then its all depend or the surgeon skill and ability, If the surgeon is conversant using Gore-tex, then revision case should not be a problem for him/her.
And yes, gore-tex is more expensive but not just because of it, the end result or aesthetically is better than silicone. Its not at all . Then, back again to ps skill and ability. :D


but goretex is much stronger and can last forever..i guess if nothing goes wrong, you don't have to change the implant every few years..which is a gd thing..but 1 thing i agree is it all goes back to the PS' skills and abilities.. :)
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Postby takuda » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 9:10 pm

jovinliu wrote:Yup mine is L implant, yes it enhance both tip and bridge. What you mean by separate procedure? No it's just 1 procedure to insert the L implant in. Dr Hsu did not increase his price, still NTD$28000. If you only want to do rhinoplasty, S$4k is more than enough.

vickyabc wrote:Hi Jovin.. wow so many raves on how pretty you r! Im new here.. Desperate to do rhino!! my bridge and the tip! considering ur surgeon.. understood u did ur nose job in 2005. And insert a L thingy right? does it enhance the tip and bridge together? or it has to be done on separated procedure? has the price increased now? if i prepare a total of S$4k enough? can u e mail a pic of ur before and after nose job for me..
sorry for soo many request..

Vicky_abc@hotmail.com

Actually wanted to go Yanhee but read that they doing I implant only right? my main concern is my darn tip!!

Any other recommendation guys???


hey jovin..ask you smth..if i have a rather fleshy nose..but have a bridge..quite low..will L implant help to define my tip even with a fleshy and thick nose?? or like what tanjhj suggest i need more procedures like tipoplasty(dun really know whats that though) and alarplasty..etc..
Cry when you get ripped.

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Postby cupid^n^starz » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 9:19 pm

takuda wrote:
cupid^n^starz wrote:
takuda wrote:
tanjhj wrote:appletree,

silicone is till safest implant currently however it still have risk of infection thus it is advisable to build ur ur immune system before going for ur op.

as for dr sukit. yupz he is a good doc who give u a natural looking nose. however if u are asking for drastic change in ur nose, i would still suggest dr chuang


silicon really safest?? :???: i heard of many complications for silicon..but at the same time it is the most popular and commonly used one...

but haven't heard of complications for goretex..thats what made me think goretex is better.. :lol: ahhh, so confusing..


Yes. As long term in case need removal silicone is more easy,. thats why silicone more safley than goretex. cause in long term - soft tissuse let ingrowth to its goretex , in the end it makes goretex not easy to removed and risk damaging nose tissue, as opposed silicone not.

back then its all depend or the surgeon skill and ability, If the surgeon is conversant using Gore-tex, then revision case should not be a problem for him/her.
And yes, gore-tex is more expensive but not just because of it, the end result or aesthetically is better than silicone. Its not at all . Then, back again to ps skill and ability. :D


but goretex is much stronger and can last forever..i guess if nothing goes wrong, you don't have to change the implant every few years..which is a gd thing..but 1 thing i agree is it all goes back to the PS' skills and abilities.. :)


Yes, also more resistent of Infection for 2 weeks post-op. yea like I said, just in case of any accident thing :roll: . Knock9x!!!!!!!
I think every material has same proportion of + and - . U gotta decide it then! 8-)

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Postby cupid^n^starz » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 9:32 pm

Talking bout accident. I dont know.. if it can be called accident , but for me definetely yes.
I already really2 taken really care of my new 2 months nose,but.... This afternoon when I played wwith my Dog and I called her ,Suddenly she jumped on my face,and guees what! She hits my Face , her nose meet with my artificial nose! Oh mY God.. . Ouch .. ouch.. ouch.... AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa it hurts till make my eyes droping some tears
immediately I looked at mirror,.. and praying hope everything is ok.. [-o< ....
So angry With her, but shes just licking my fingers - starring at me, with her iinnoncent looking and without feeling guilty... grrrrrrrr...

:oops!: Tanjhj... Got failed keep on my nose... knock3x...........................................................................................

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Postby appletree » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:09 pm

Hi cupid^n^starz, i think sometimes minor accident is unavoidable one bah cos sometimes i also keep knocking into my bf's nose when we kiss.. as he's got sharp nose. .ouch! keke
Accident refers to those hard impact bah i think.

As for now currently im with e semi- perm fillers, which i think not much help to achieve with what i want, cant even see the diff at all lor, i dont like the result.... :(

Am still abit confuse regarding the infections... :???:
So which means infections is likely to occurs if no taken care properly during the recovery period? And after e recovery period if theres no infection, does that means that down e road i will be free from infection? keke... sorry to ask such a silly question... pengs

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Postby cacao » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:28 pm

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cacao wrote:
tanjhj wrote:
cacao wrote:Hi all,

Wow...I've finally finished reading all 317 pgs on this topic!

Thanks so much for all who have shared so unselfishly. And special thanks to tanjhj for recommending Dr Su in Taiwan.

I've decided to go to Dr Su for my eyelid surgery. However, she is not able to perform the surgery immediately after consultation. For surgery, need to book another day- Mon, Wed or Fri. Her consultation days are only Tue and Thur. I'm planning to see her on Thurs and hopefully get the surgery done on Friday. However, the clinic assistant could not confirm a slot for me because she said not everybody is suitable to undergo double eyelid surgery. They will only confirm booking when Dr Su gives the go ahead.

May I know if anybody has consulted Dr Su and then able to get surgery done the next day?

Also, the clinic says if I opt for the cutting method, stitches will be removed in 5-7 days. How do they decide whether my stitches could be removed on day 5 or 7? Base on recovery? Can I opt for it to be removed at 5 days instead of 6 or7?

Tanjhj, I think you mentioned you have a few colleagues who did their eyes with Dr Su. How is the result now? Do they like it? Healing nicely? Any visible scars?

I have emailed Dr Su with above questions but she has not replied. So I'm hoping anybody who had gone to her can give me some advice. I hope to book my tickets and hotel soon

It seems that nobody has posted any experience with Dr Su. I will put up a post when I get mine done.

Thanks so much!


hmm there is no forumer here who did their eyelid with dr su but many feedbacks has been given abt the excellent job done by dr su at taiwan forumers. the reason she is good becoz she does natural looking eyelid job and she is rather conservative who refuse to do revision and certain ppl eyelid, whom she think may have post op problems.

nevertheless, u can call her clinic in the morning with IDD, her nurse will help u with arranging the surgery after consultation. they dun entertain emails.. however plz note that TW chinese is of higher level than ours thus u may feel uncomfortable with it. do not lose heart just communicate with simple chinese will do.. good luck to ur operation. i am sure u will like what u get from dr su. also do get more discount from her if u going to do KYT and KYW. 10%- 20% should not be a problem.. TW also ask for disc like us.. cheerss


Thanks, Tanjhj. Sigh...I didn't know they don't don't entertain emails. I sent 2, one in English and I thought they didn't understand. Sent the 2nd one in Chinese n I thought its because of my lousy Chinese.

I already called to make appointment to see Dr Su on 15 Mar. But now, I can't get the air tickets. I have to reschedule again, I'm so so disappointed :cry:

Actually, I find it very difficult to schedule surgery with Dr Su. They can't do surgery after consultation and they cannot schedule surgery on next day. It makes planning very difficult. If we have to wait a few days or even weeks for the surgery, we'll be wasting many days in Taiwan.

Coupled with this, my family has not been very supportive. So I can only come here for some moral and emotional support. I hope that I still have the courage to go through this later.


dun wori if dr su is unable to make surgery for u, u can go to dr chuang who is one mrt stop away. he is more flexible and u may even do ur surgery right away.. Cheers. so i propose u go to TW making appt with two doc on ur 1st day. than u can go to dr chuang if dr su is not able to op on u the next day...


Thanks Tanjhj! It seemed like a very good idea! I've not considered Dr Chuang previously because he seemed to be more popular for nose and other areas. Also, Dr Chuang does the korean mini incision method? My lids are rather puffy, I wonder if I'm a suitable candidate. Will Dr Chuang be able to advise if I send him a photo? Does he write/speak English?

Another area of concern is sagging. Is it true that the double eyelids surgery will cause saggin of eyelids 20-30 years later?

Thanks so much for your advice, really appreciate it! :)

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Postby jass82 » Mon, 05 Mar 2007 1:43 am

hi tanjhj thanks so much for your reply. Do you have dr wong's website so i take a look?

i thought dr fok has pretty good reviews as well.. does he specialise in doing surgery for guys? :)

sorry really new to this.. ;)


tanjhj wrote:
jass82 wrote:Hi all, i'm going to dr harry fok to get my double eyelid done.. but my parents are extremely against the idea and they kept saying horrible things like i will end up with one eye bigger then the other.... -___- | | |

Its scaring me a little bit.. haha.. anyway wanted to ask if anyone is going to dr fok too, just thought maybe can go together.. i've never get ps before feeling really scared...


my suggestion for u is to use dr wong if u are a gal. if u are a guy dr harry fok may be better.

dr wong have good reviews for eyelids job both here and other forums thus u are more safe if done by him..

cheers

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Postby vivadiva » Mon, 05 Mar 2007 1:55 am

Hi,

May i know the costs for botox jaw? how many units did you use?
any clinic to recommend?

thanks!

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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 05 Mar 2007 2:48 am

cacao,

dr chuang can spk english so u can email him in english.
eyelid regardless of double or single, Surgery or natural will sag. it is the natural way for gravity working. so go ahead and have it done. with puffy eyelid. i am pretty certain u will need to do incision for better and longer lasting results..

jass,

sori i dun have dr wong website..
harry fok is not said to be specialise in guys but dr wong cutting style is more femine thus no really suitable for guy. harry fok, never hear much abt him. however for dr wong, he got good review in many forums abt his eyelid surgery for girls thus should be safer to go to him...[/quote]
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2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face
3)Work on your confidence 1st

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Postby tanjhj » Mon, 05 Mar 2007 2:54 am

cupid^n^starz wrote:Talking bout accident. I dont know.. if it can be called accident , but for me definetely yes.
I already really2 taken really care of my new 2 months nose,but.... This afternoon when I played wwith my Dog and I called her ,Suddenly she jumped on my face,and guees what! She hits my Face , her nose meet with my artificial nose! Oh mY God.. . Ouch .. ouch.. ouch.... AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa it hurts till make my eyes droping some tears
immediately I looked at mirror,.. and praying hope everything is ok.. [-o< ....
So angry With her, but shes just licking my fingers - starring at me, with her iinnoncent looking and without feeling guilty... grrrrrrrr...

:oops!: Tanjhj... Got failed keep on my nose... knock3x...........................................................................................


Cupidz.. I can feel ur pain by imagine it myself.. OUCH!

well i guess at 2 months the imlant should be well fixed and dun think will be much problem.. just apply cold pack and later hot pack if u worried abt it..

Cheers
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1)If it aint broken, dun fix it / dun fix what u dun need

2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face

3)Work on your confidence 1st


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