Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[michiko00]

dark eye ring.. if not taken care of.. the pigmentation will be very hard to remove..

try biotherm eye serum, i use that.. and it helps reduce puffiness and dark eye ring.. (light blue bottle) sorry i cant rem the name .. but the green one is for wrinkle and anti aging.. so get the light blue one..

just sharing that when i came back from taiwan, i had dark eye ring cos i cant sleep at night in taiwan for consecutively 10 nights.. worried abt results, worried not enough cold press initially then warm press after.. so wake up time to time to do it..

well all i can say is.. my dark eye ring's completely gone now..
u need to use yr 4th finger or what u call the ring finger to apply the serum to the bottom and tap it lightly..
then u apply to the top of the eye to tap away the puffiness as well..

it is good for draining fluids .. so if u had eyelid surgery, puffy right, can use also..

immediate sulution.. is ipl or ppx .. go to a dermatologist..
or i can refer u for discounts.. i dun have the rates now.. if seriously intersted then i ask my fren

Hi Devilsmaycry,

I'm quite interested to know about IPL and PPX. I heard a bit about it, will the procedure remove my dark circles permanently or only temporary (included i take care of my eyes after operation).
Or do they only remove eyebags? (I don't have much eyebags, only dark circles.)

And lastly, how much do they cost? I just need a rough range to budget... Price of beauty is sad... I'm intending to go for IPL or PPX rather immediately... and is the doctor you recommend good??

Thank so much!

[244522]

sure Velvet_CK

i am also doing end of this year. wish me luck and wish you luck too. will be consulting doctor soon, if got any information will post us here.

actually i think jaw surgery quite exp, is more of a major surgery compared to eyes, so the tw doctor charge high should be oki.

saving up now for my yr end surgery.

[244522]

For those who interested in eye bags, maybe you can visit david loh website, there is one technique, he just inject something to absorb the oil. so might not even need to for under a operation.

And for eye puffiness, it might be muscle if you are young. because we dont develop much fats until we grew older. if is muscle, operation cant help, might be better to opt for botox injection. i saw this from david loh website too.

[flymetothemoon]

thanks a lot.

[tanjhj]

Good finding. good job kaka

he also do nose and eyes too and for those who can read chinese, his website is very good for explaining abt korean style PS. especially his explanation of Korean style Nose..

www.miniface.com

famous dr in TW for bone shaving
but doesnt seem very cheap also
many raves from local TW girls

both sides cheekbones 160k
include 1 day clinic stay
not sure abt jaw or chin yet
will ask and let u guys know

[jovinliu]

Errrr, must clarify hor. Botox is Botox, mesobotox is mesobotox. Botox is to relax/paralyse muscles while mesobotox is for face rejuvenation:

Microinjections of very small doses of botox with generous doses of vitamins and hyaluronic acid are distributed superficially all over the face to diminish fine wrinkles without muscle paralysis and to improve sheen of the skin. Patients report that their pores are visibly smaller, their skin less oily and more translucent after the treatment! Patients also feel that their face looks "lifted" & firmer and their skin texture more refined after a session of this innovative treatment. This treatment is excellent for rejuvenating the rest of face after botox treatment for the major frown lines and wrinkles.

You make a mistake of what most people does: self-determine what you have and what you need. Please do not conclude anything before a visit to a surgeon and discuss the recommended procedure. You mentioned that if you do botox, there will only be slight difference because that is for those really square muscle people. You have a combination of bone, loose skin and muscle. Have you seen my before-botox photo? That was what i thought i had too. But, i did benefit alot from botox. Why not you visit Nu.Reflections, consult Dr Ivan and see if Botox will help to contour your face shape?

You are right that you need to ask around, do your homework and consider carefully before you make up your mind on something that is going to change your current look forever. It's something like a tattoo; you decide on it, change it, some procedure may be reversal but some is not. I believe in this forum, most "satisfied customers" who came back from overseas went to that particular surgeon because of good review from others. We cannot afford to make so many trips overseas to shop around, see if we like the face of that surgeon or not, then finally make up our mind. We do all our homework in Singapore, decide, then go for it. That is why feedbacks are so important.

Do you know what you want? Honestly i can't make out what you want. You asked about jaw surgery, said botox won't help you, praised Martin Huang for a good eye job, didn't want to go overseas and don't trust other doctors. So in the end, why don't you go back to Martin Huang, since you are satisfied with his skills, professionaliam and after-service?



/Jovin

Hi devilsmaycry

I've read through almost 60% of this thread, and i realised there are very few cases of jaw reshaping cases. I only read about wenhwa whom have bad case from nuh and a agent recommending to do jaw reshaping under cosmetic dental. Then the rest like jovin went for either botox or mesobotox.

i am more interested in jaw shaping because i have rather big and chinless looking face, and a bit square. if i do botox, there will only be slight difference, because that is for those really square muscle people. i have a combination of bone, loose skin and muscle.

i didnt thought of going overseas yet because i believe there are some good singapore doctors around. i did eye lid stitching under dr martin huang and am very satidfied with it, he's a really great doctor in term of skills, patients and explaining the procedure. his service is great because he gave a lot of medications for swelling, painkillers and more. plus he also taught me eye exercise, which i cant think any other doctor service would be so great.

And I think do operations thingy, got to ask carefully and think carefully. If go overseas will be too rush for me, because normally means you select that doctor and go for it already, not like in singapore, you can ask many and then compare their answers and attitudes and choose the one you feel comfortable with. Different people feel comfortable at different routes, so i think is important to choose one route that you feel most comfortable at.

Just that no matter what doctor, i dont really trust. i had bad experience with some other doctors before. I have to protect myself first.

[jovinliu]

Hi,

Sorry i've not been following this thread closely, and i can't locate KALO website on the internet. Can you give me their address and/or contact number?



/Jovin

Hi,

Let me know the progress of the vitamin C injection. Fairer?



/Jovin

Hi all,

I went KALO JB to inject vitamin C today, was told will see effect as days goes by..
more & more pretty, fairer skin,smoother, more radiant ..hehe just wait & keep my fingers cross

Attached is my nose before PS (first 2 photos)

Last photo is my nose after PS 3 weeks done at KALO JB.

Did a korea implant rm4288 (uprm4888), Vitamin C rm500.

Wow, mei mei this cny liao

http://img258.imageshack.us/slideshow/p ... 62en0.smil

yen

Hi all,

today is the 2nd day after my Vitamin C injection.

I noticed that my panda eyes/dark eye circle is alot lighter by 30%, dont know will my dark eye circle vanish after a few more days? hehe

My skin is also fairer today compared to yesterday, overall I find Vit C injection is good & cheap lor. A worthy investment

5 session rm1800


rgds
yen

[244522]

Errrr, must clarify hor. Botox is Botox, mesobotox is mesobotox. Botox is to relax/paralyse muscles while mesobotox is for face rejuvenation:

Microinjections of very small doses of botox with generous doses of vitamins and hyaluronic acid are distributed superficially all over the face to diminish fine wrinkles without muscle paralysis and to improve sheen of the skin. Patients report that their pores are visibly smaller, their skin less oily and more translucent after the treatment! Patients also feel that their face looks "lifted" & firmer and their skin texture more refined after a session of this innovative treatment. This treatment is excellent for rejuvenating the rest of face after botox treatment for the major frown lines and wrinkles.

You make a mistake of what most people does: self-determine what you have and what you need. Please do not conclude anything before a visit to a surgeon and discuss the recommended procedure. You mentioned that if you do botox, there will only be slight difference because that is for those really square muscle people. You have a combination of bone, loose skin and muscle. Have you seen my before-botox photo? That was what i thought i had too. But, i did benefit alot from botox. Why not you visit Nu.Reflections, consult Dr Ivan and see if Botox will help to contour your face shape?

You are right that you need to ask around, do your homework and consider carefully before you make up your mind on something that is going to change your current look forever. It's something like a tattoo; you decide on it, change it, some procedure may be reversal but some is not. I believe in this forum, most "satisfied customers" who came back from overseas went to that particular surgeon because of good review from others. We cannot afford to make so many trips overseas to shop around, see if we like the face of that surgeon or not, then finally make up our mind. We do all our homework in Singapore, decide, then go for it. That is why feedbacks are so important.

Do you know what you want? Honestly i can't make out what you want. You asked about jaw surgery, said botox won't help you, praised Martin Huang for a good eye job, didn't want to go overseas and don't trust other doctors. So in the end, why don't you go back to Martin Huang, since you are satisfied with his skills, professionaliam and after-service?



/Jovin

Hi devilsmaycry

I've read through almost 60% of this thread, and i realised there are very few cases of jaw reshaping cases. I only read about wenhwa whom have bad case from nuh and a agent recommending to do jaw reshaping under cosmetic dental. Then the rest like jovin went for either botox or mesobotox.

i am more interested in jaw shaping because i have rather big and chinless looking face, and a bit square. if i do botox, there will only be slight difference, because that is for those really square muscle people. i have a combination of bone, loose skin and muscle.

i didnt thought of going overseas yet because i believe there are some good singapore doctors around. i did eye lid stitching under dr martin huang and am very satidfied with it, he's a really great doctor in term of skills, patients and explaining the procedure. his service is great because he gave a lot of medications for swelling, painkillers and more. plus he also taught me eye exercise, which i cant think any other doctor service would be so great.

And I think do operations thingy, got to ask carefully and think carefully. If go overseas will be too rush for me, because normally means you select that doctor and go for it already, not like in singapore, you can ask many and then compare their answers and attitudes and choose the one you feel comfortable with. Different people feel comfortable at different routes, so i think is important to choose one route that you feel most comfortable at.

Just that no matter what doctor, i dont really trust. i had bad experience with some other doctors before. I have to protect myself first.

I've actually visted one plastic surgeon and one dermalogist. They did recommend me botox and mestobotox, but they say might not make any great difference. i think it depend on one's individual. i do know the difference between botox and mestobox. and if you want to cure loose skin, you can go for face lift by thread lift or radio frequency. they did advice me on these few routes.

But then since young, my face shape is not very nice. is a bit squarish, not very. i got musle but the doctors say a bit only. that's why i opt for jaw surgery, which will make a greater difference on me.

I belive this kind of things, i do agree we should visit doctor because you cant really tell what is the root of your problem just by visting here. Hope is make sense.

[244522]

Forget to reply the second part, I think dr martin huang is more experience in nose, eyes and chin. They are more common surgery. So i was hoping to look for someone whom is more specialised in jaw surgery. But this one I cant confirm yet, that why will be visiting him about it soon, cause I am still under the booking queues.

Ya i do agree. Most people here visit overseas doctors. I thought maybe some past experience people like wenwha will comment some experience or some silent viewers might comment some, so i asked for some jaw information, so i might have more chance of knowing more, afterall i am still really inexperience, and am really keen to chat up with some who have been through the process.

[244522]

And I mean i dont trust doctor because I feel different doctors will have different expertise, materials and machine. So if let say they have this and this, they would say this and this is good, and what they dont have or dont provide or are not good at is not good.

I have experienced this before. Cause before my stitching, i was deciding in between the cutting method or stitching method. There was this one doctor whom mentioned that he strongly recommend cutting, because he believe that stitching as time go by, your stitch will become lower and lower, and your eyes might be even smaller sometime if the stitch hinder with some internal part of your eye. And there was the other doctor whom strongly recommend stitching becaue he say he can fix the height and he has patient whom come back to him to restitch only after 8 years later. There was this doctor whom prefered only laser and told me laser is good.

I personally feel its better to be cautious in plastic surgoen doctors, better to ask around a few before doing one. And secondly, better to understand what your doctor expertise in, he might be good at one but not so good as another as compared to another doctor. And what might be good for one, might not be good for another. So if can, i would still want to visit the different good doctors in this forumn and then go home and rethink which one best suit me, who can best meet my expectations. That is why i prefer to do locally than going overseas. I am quite a long and deep thinker. Lol.

These are just my personal views and experiences. Someone else might experience differently or view these differently.

[flowerling]

HI, I hope u will be reading this post...

my radish legs has been with me for years... and i really hope to get rid of them using surgery... Have u done a calf surgery? If so, could u kindly advise me on the procedures? thx!!

Sad Girl

[flowerling]

Hi,

I really hope to go korea to perform a calf surgery.. but i'm afraid to go alone because of the language barrier and it being the first time in korea... i dun even noe which korea airport is the nearest to the hospital... can someone kindly advise me how u managed to go korea for your surgery? thx!!

Sad girl

[Velvet_CK]

Hi,

I really hope to go korea to perform a calf surgery.. but i'm afraid to go alone because of the language barrier and it being the first time in korea... i dun even noe which korea airport is the nearest to the hospital... can someone kindly advise me how u managed to go korea for your surgery? thx!!

Sad girl

Ok. Most PS clinics are at Apkujeong and Gangnam area (Seoul), flights usually land at Incheon Airport. Situated at Incheon of coz.

Before exiting the airport, Look for a counter which sells bus ticket which brings you to Seoul. cost 8000Won. 1.5hr bus journey to Seoul. Tell the counter lady that you are going to <The>.

Best is get a hotel near Gangnam, or if your operation doesn't really affect you. You may want to get a hotel near Dongdaemum area so you can shop ur mind away.

Alternatively you can try to experience their traditional tea houses hostel, which's a 20mins train station far from the PS zone.

Their Subway stations link everywhere, take the trains. They are usually faster than Taxis. Taxi drivers usually don't understand english.

If you are lost, ask young koreans for directions, some speak great english.



OZ clinic comes with great review. Google it for his homepage and contact.
Dr Park from OZ clinic speaks great English, no worries.

Feel free to drop more questions. Will try to assist.

Cheers.

[blossommonte]

For those who interested in eye bags, maybe you can visit david loh website, there is one technique, he just inject something to absorb the oil. so might not even need to for under a operation.

can you share the site? i am not sure where he is located ... thanks

[244522]

For those who interested in eye bags, maybe you can visit david loh website, there is one technique, he just inject something to absorb the oil. so might not even need to for under a operation.

can you share the site? i am not sure where he is located ... thanks

http://davidloh.sg/