Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[iamdanny]

char: u spent how much on facial things? cant be as much as a nose job fee ba... hmmm how's ur face condition nw?

[dolphin]

Dolphin,

Dr. Jung will send a driver to pick u up at the airport. And when I left the service apt for the airport the owners called a cab to come pick me up, think its about 50 000 won?

And yes, the one at nakseongdae where I stayed is only 5 stops to Dr. Jung's clinic and very convenient.

Thx Hannah for your reply

50 000 won is like 80++ SGD? How long is the cab ride? ;D You know the Naksongdae people told me it's a good 2 hours from airport...I didn't ask if the 2 hours was by cab or by train....

And wow Dr Jung really will send a driver to pick me up luggage and all? My flight will be arriving at Seoul around 0800H ( going by Korean Air ...costs about close to 900SGD after fuel surcharges , taxes and etc etc WOAAHH ) ..... was thinking whether I should go clinic first or apartment first ahahah....Guess will write to Dr Jung and make arrangements then Perhaps I can go clinic and wait for him to appear ;D

I chose Naksongdae cos it looks pretty close in terms of number of stops... But how long does the 5 stops really take? I'm sure it isn't like travelling from Novena to Dhoby Ghaut right? About 30 min? ( I'm being hopeful here HAHA )

Lugging along my laptops and all....maybe some games and books for my period of hibernation ( 8 days enough? )

[Hannah Lee]

Dolphin,

that's the same flt I took on Korean air, arrived in the morning. The driver took me straight to Dr. Jung's clinic with my luggage and everything. Then the nurse moved my stuff into the recovery room. Dr. Jung saw me quite quickly as it wasn't a super busy morning. I went on a Thursday.

Umm, I don't think it takes 2 hrs frm nakseongdae to the airport. Maybe I'm wrong but I think it was just over an hour? And the subway to Dr. Jung's clinic is very fast don't worry. Its not like 30 mins and its a direct subway so there's no need to change etc.

8 days should be long enough, and yes, I wish I had brought my laptop with me cuz I was bored to death watching TV plus the apt has free internet. Don't forget to bring some canned food with u in case u don't feel like going out. Though there is a convenience store at the foot of the hill that sells food and stuff.

[dolphin]

Dear Hannah Lee,

Thank you so much for your replies

I'm still deciding whether or not to choose costal rib cartilage as implant material.... Well, the biggest pro is much lower infection risk.... But the risky bit is the tendency for the costal rib cartilage to warp over time!! ( that's scary !! Can you imagine your nose suddenly changing shape 1 or 2 years down the road cos your rib cartilage has suddenly decided to curl..? )

Am gonna take 14 days leave off work.... was planning to come out of hiding on day 8 and go sight see a little ( am I being way too optimistic here? ahahah ) .... Hope that in 14 days, my nose would have stabilized enough for me to go back to work....

How long did it take you to be able to breathe through your nose again?

Did you get some shopping done during your stay there?

Am gonna get lots of facial wipes since prolly can't wash face for first few days right?

Canned/boxed food too!

And a lonely planet guide to Seoul!

Wanted to bring masks... But not sure if the strap would hurt my ear where the cartilage was harvested?

Anything else I should remember to bring or I'll end up kicking myself over there?

Thanks so much

[Char]

char: u spent how much on facial things? cant be as much as a nose job fee ba... hmmm how's ur face condition nw?

Hiya Danny,

Hehe... Of course not as much as the nose job fee. But then, after buying den i realised that in really not worth buying as i'm low down on dough already. Den the brand is like never hear before all that la. But nvm, today i'll be attending the class i've signed up after buying the products. This is to be able to utilize the products the correct way.

Will tell everybody the results and recommend you over.
*i pray it will not destroy my face*

[Hannah Lee]

Dolphin,

by 14 days when u go back to work should be fine. I was still quite swollen but it wasn't hideously ugly or anything. And actually once the cast comes off I think u will probably feel well enough to go walk around and shop. Dr. Jung takes it off at 5 days post op.

Actually I didn't even wipe or clean my face the entire time my cast was on. I know, gross huh? But cleansing wipes would help alot.

Umm...I think by the time the cast came off I could breathe again. The first 2 nights were the worst cuz I had to wake up several times to wipe the blood off. But it stopped bleeding by day 3.

Have u checked out the lonelyplanet website? That has alot of info on Seoul too.

Don't worry about masks, Dr. Jung's will supply all that. I wore my mask out until my cast came off, and no it didn't hurt my ear.

You might want to bring a baseball cap to hide under for those ugly swollen days. I think I didn't take my hat off the whole week....hehe.

I actually would prefer my own rib cartilage over goretex, but I was worried about the scar on my ribs plus u have to go under general anesthesia. It just seemed more major. I saw a couple of warping pics on Dr. Jung's site and it also scared me, its like the cartilage graft migrated to the guy's forehead and it looked deformed.

I didn't take sinechh cuz Dr. Jung doesn't give it but maybe u might wanna try that since everyone says it helps the swelling alot?

When are you planning to go? Wish you the best of luck and hope u love ur new nose!

[vitamins]

hi anyone has dr danny oh's email?

[mitsukai]

Hi.. anyone goin to bkk next mth? I thinking of goin.. tot mayb can get some company..

[roxygerrr]

Hmmmm..okay. I emailed Dr sukit yesterday with my pictures and have just received his reply, and like what all of you said, he's only willing to do a subtle one.

This is an extraction of his reply to me by email:

"1. the bridge is really low and not difficult to make it higher by the implant
2.the tip is so broad because of the skin and some fat inside and you have to learn that this is the most difficult in asian patient to make it smaller and I think you have to accept that it may not be done
3. the alar base is not so wide but if you place the implant inside the nose the nostril may be smaller because the push by the implant above the nostril
4. alar reduction can be done in limited amount unless it will be too small and not fit to the broad tip and look ugly when you look at the nose as overall"

I THINK i get what he means, but then again i'm not a 100% sure. Is it not possible to sharpen my tip and make it less broad, or is it that he isn't willing to help me with it (well, judging from the comments the rest have given about dr sukit and his reluctant to do anything more than subtle). I want a smaller nose width and sharper nose tip, with also a higher bridge (the nose bridge btwn my eyes seems to not exist ), but i dont think dr sukit is the right surgeon i need. I'm looking for something which isn't MJ-plastic, but i want something more than just a little change for my nose.

The problem is seriously annoying me. Sigh.

Jovin dear, think your taipei surgeon can help me with this problem?

Hi perfectionista, i'd also emailed dr sukit but i have yet to send him pics of my nose as i'm still considering if i should do my nose or dark eye rings first.

Like you, im also considering dr sukit or the taiwan doc jovin did awhile back. I think i have a wide nose with flat bridge. i want to heighten my bridge as well as reduce the size of my nose tip, and overall.

Im afraid my case will be same as yours. and dr sukit might not be the best for me. for now, i dont think i wanna take the risk of travelling all the way to taipei to look for dr hsu. i'm confused. wanna xchange pictures of our nose to compare n share more?

[dolphin]

Dolphin,

by 14 days when u go back to work should be fine. I was still quite swollen but it wasn't hideously ugly or anything. And actually once the cast comes off I think u will probably feel well enough to go walk around and shop. Dr. Jung takes it off at 5 days post op.

Actually I didn't even wipe or clean my face the entire time my cast was on. I know, gross huh? But cleansing wipes would help alot.

Umm...I think by the time the cast came off I could breathe again. The first 2 nights were the worst cuz I had to wake up several times to wipe the blood off. But it stopped bleeding by day 3.

Have u checked out the lonelyplanet website? That has alot of info on Seoul too.

Don't worry about masks, Dr. Jung's will supply all that. I wore my mask out until my cast came off, and no it didn't hurt my ear.

You might want to bring a baseball cap to hide under for those ugly swollen days. I think I didn't take my hat off the whole week....hehe.

I actually would prefer my own rib cartilage over goretex, but I was worried about the scar on my ribs plus u have to go under general anesthesia. It just seemed more major. I saw a couple of warping pics on Dr. Jung's site and it also scared me, its like the cartilage graft migrated to the guy's forehead and it looked deformed.

I didn't take sinechh cuz Dr. Jung doesn't give it but maybe u might wanna try that since everyone says it helps the swelling alot?

When are you planning to go? Wish you the best of luck and hope u love ur new nose!

yes, I guess as of now, there isn't really an ideal implant yet? Hey I found out why silicone leads to all those scary contractions already....

It's cos it's a nonporous material so our own skin cells will form a "capsule around it to contain the perceived "foreign invader". It's when our skin contracts to form the capsule that it pulls inwards to the implant and the nose end up looking contracted...It isn't the silicone itself that will contract... Good news, however, if your surgeon is highly skilled, he may be able to place the silicone implant in such a way that will minimize contraction, though that would mean having a lower bridge....

Goretex is semi-porous and when coupled with ear cartilage which the skin recognizes as its own, it doesn't really "capsulate" so that's the good news about goretex... On the downside, no matter what we say, goretex is still an artificial implant so the argument is that use of 100% autologous material is best...

However, use of 100% autologous cartilage isn't risk free either... It may warp in time to come or get totally resorped altogether.... Yes! Warping to the forehead is indeed scary !!! Makes you wonder what the cartilage is thinking...trying to get back to its own donor site but ending up lost? ;D

Anyway, enough about that stuff, I'm sure many of the people here who want to do rhinoplasty would have already researched that

Wow so bleeding non stop for 2 days or so after the op is normal? Thx for letting me know , I would've panicked otherwise

Yah I've got 2 baseball caps already heehee.... Will consider going shopping and sightseeing looking like a bank robber after the cast comes off

I'm planning to go end of Nov/ early dec.... should be cool and wintry? so I think that not washing of hair would not be a major problem ( for at least 5 days? )

My hair is quite long, dont think I can wash it without getting the cast or nose wet.....

Were you able to wash your face normally after the cast came off? Or did it hurt a little?

Dear Hannah Lee, thanks so much for your replies...I really aprreciate them so much

[vaunei]

mitsukai,

are you a lady? cos i'm more comfortable going oversea for surgery with a lady than a male.

i'm going bkk, to dr. sukit next month. on 16 oct - 21 oct. you can come along if u want, i'm most prob goin with another girlfriend.

you can contact me at sciencefiktion@hotmail.com

we can meet over coffee too.

[cupid^n^starz]

hi
is there anyone here had any experience before with dr. greechart, dr chet, dr preecha and dr somsak. please share with me

[mitsukai]

Hi vaunei
yupz.. i'm a lady.. Havent decide on the exact date. Will let u know.. N we can have company.

[Hannah Lee]

Dolphin,

yeah I think its a tough decision between goretex and rib cartilage. I really wouldn't want to worry about my rib migrating to my forhead in the future! When I saw that pic the caption said the guy was gonna have revision surgery in 3 weeks. That means he has to walk around with his nose bridge on his forehead for 3 weeks!

For those who are curious here's the link to the picture http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/know/re ... LangType=1

Actually u can wash ur hair without getting the cast wet, the only problem is that u will have a bandage on your EAR too which u don't want to get wet. So I just lived with gross dirty hair for 5 days. And since it will be winter it won't be so bad for you.

When my cast came off it felt tender and strange but nope, it didn't hurt to wash. I was afraid to touch it for a long time though, it just felt weird and foreign.

And feel free to ask whatever u want, I also appreciated people sharing their experience with me so that when I did it I wasn't so scared!

[vitamins]

hi
is there anyone here had any experience before with dr. greechart, dr chet, dr preecha and dr somsak. please share with me

pls share with me too thanks

I've just emailed Dr danny oh... he said there is no problem doing my nose... unlike dr sukit who said very difficlut ... difficult here and there lol..
and i only need to stay in penang for about 3 days.. that's so short .. will 3 days be enough.. hmm..

anyone has do nose surgery at bumrungrad, whats the cost?

im at yanhee website and i see that most other doctors are head of or board of something something.. only dr sukit is CERTIIFIED PLASTIC SURGERY.. hmm...