Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

katy · Post by **katy** » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 8:46 pm

Yes creamer, thats what i worry about gortex too

If wana remove, it be harder right ...

Dr Jung uses gortex for bridge and cartilage for tip. One dr say cartilage may soften over time so he dont use cartilage ?!!

So confusing ah !!

GINNI · Post by **GINNI** » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:03 pm

looking for clinics in Bangkok that offer laser or vaser liposuction..... need help. sori .................... a bit out of current topics.

Hannah Lee · Post by **Hannah Lee** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:24 am

Yeah that's my worry with goretex too. But Dr. Jung said not to worry its not that difficult to remove. But of course he would say that! I was so hesitant to put any kind of implant in but then it would be hard to lengthen my nose otherwise.

I never minded having a flat bridge, but now that I have a higher bridge I have to admit I prefer it. But how permanent are goretex or silicone? Obviously I've only had it for 2 weeks so it seems fine but will it last a lifetime? I guess those are the worries that come with putting any artificial material in your body. If you're really worried, you can always opt for your own rib cartilage. At least its your own tissue so I think its safer.

Healin · Post by **Healin** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 1:50 am

saw1,

i saw the fotos...it look v natural...not too high with makeup...
is it veri unbalanced? cant tell....
veri nice!!

if its veri slight...shld b ok cos our natural eyelids r not balance...
i duno much abt eyelid clippin...is it the same as cutting??
fr fotos it seem tat it look more natural over time...

im goin bk for review lata..
scar on my eyelids is red n crooked now...look scary...cos it has not folded down yet...realised tat he cut my left eye longer than my rite...hopefulli its to give my eyes balance

my eye area is abit yellowish now...lightenin bit by bit...

leenaaaa,
thks for ur concern!

i duno much abt nose surgery...
but i tink u shld seek second opinion fr another doc...mayb Dr MH?
since u dun quite trust dr seah on his nose lengthenin...
tink if u wana redo ur nose...might as well remove n do it at the same time rite? too much ops on ur nose...might b too taxin for it...

gd lucks!!

saw1 · Post by **saw1** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 2:36 am

tat fotos is of someone else. anyway care to send me urs ?
my right eye still has a higher crease den my left. look unnatural..

chiqita · Post by **chiqita** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 3:48 am

Hannah Lee wrote:Yeah that's my worry with goretex too. But Dr. Jung said not to worry its not that difficult to remove. But of course he would say that! I was so hesitant to put any kind of implant in but then it would be hard to lengthen my nose otherwise.

I never minded having a flat bridge, but now that I have a higher bridge I have to admit I prefer it. But how permanent are goretex or silicone? Obviously I've only had it for 2 weeks so it seems fine but will it last a lifetime? I guess those are the worries that come with putting any artificial material in your body. If you're really worried, you can always opt for your own rib cartilage. At least its your own tissue so I think its safer.

Hi Hannah Lee and all those who have had nose surgery,

Just another thought, with a higher bridge, do you guys/gals notice any difference in the distance between your eyes? i.e. does it become narrower with increase in dorsal height? During a consultation, one doctor mentioned that this will be so. Is this true in your cases?

However having said that, I think in any rhinoplasty, a trully skilled surgeon will try to achieve a nose that is in harmony with the rest of your face. Not augment it just for the sake of achieving a sharper nose that doesn't sync with the rest of your features.

I just want to have a clear picture of what to expect and outweigh the consequences/after effect and be mentally prepared for the changes before going for the surgery. What I do not want is to have other unpleasant surprises post surgery like I did from my previos one (unrelated to nose surgery).

Many thanks go all for sharing your experiences.

C

wenhwa · Post by **wenhwa** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:44 am

The increment between the distance of the eyes are very little at first,
and eventually, it goes away completely.

katy · Post by **katy** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:49 am

[quote="Hannah Lee"]Yeah that's my worry with goretex too. But Dr. Jung said not to worry its not that difficult to remove. But of course he would say that! I was so hesitant to put any kind of implant in but then it would be hard to lengthen my nose otherwise.

I never minded having a flat bridge, but now that I have a higher bridge I have to admit I prefer it. But how permanent are goretex or silicone? Obviously I've only had it for 2 weeks so it seems fine but will it last a lifetime? I guess those are the worries that come with putting any artificial material in your body. If you're really worried, you can always opt for your own rib cartilage. At least its your own tissue so I think its safer.[/quote]

Dr Jung is an ENT surgeon ?
It says so on his website. I'll think an ENT specialist will be more reliable at doing noses because they won't compromise on the function for aesthetics !!

I am tempted to go to Dr Jung.

Hannah, can you tell us how the whole process went ?

Did you email him your pic ?
Did you have to call his clinic for anything ?
You said they fetched you from siport to his clinic and you had the op immediately. Before the op, you had consultation right ??
Did you ask for any before and afters to see ?
Did he do any imaging for your final results ?

Thanks so much for sharing !!

iamdanny · Post by **iamdanny** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 1:05 pm

black_creamer wrote:Hey Katy,

I think silicon stays seperated from ur flesh, whereas gortex fuses with the flesh in time. Hence, silicon maybe more obvious under the skin, but gortex is more difficult to remove if you decide to do so at a later date... Mine was silicon, and i think still the more common option for surgeons.

hi blackcreamer i rmb u did ur nose surgery with one of the local plastic surgeon.. is it dr seah? erm where is his clinic n how much he charged for L or I shape implant plus refining of nose tip? u like ur new nose? any drastic difference?thanks

ocean11 · Post by **ocean11** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 1:19 pm

Hannah Lee wrote:Hi lolita,

the website is http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/main/main.asp

it should have all the info u need like phone numbers costs etc.

Katy: If u wanna see pics of extrusion with silicone Dr. Jung has a whole section on it here http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/other/other01.asp

Dr. Jung never uses L shape silicone implants cuz of the risk of extrusion at the tip so he always puts your own ear cartilage there. And for me taking the ear cartilage was not a big deal. My ear stitches were removed 5 days post op and not alot of pain after that.

Alemak! this post by hannah nearly freak me out! having nitemare for the passed few days!! the side effects of the silicon really looked scary man!!
But come to think of it... there're tons of surgery using sillicon for the passed decade, don tell me all silicon are going to have problems??? i hope not.. if not, mabe i should tot of renew it after 10 yrs later..
My mother in law had rhinoplasty 30 yrs ago, her nose still well and intact lay.. somemore 30yrs ago technology is far worst den now.. so i personally think it depend on luck and the skill of the surgeon or the material they use not from those 3rd world countries made or made by recycle material.. so it should be ok la.. *consoled myself*

cos i can't bear to take out my implant now!! already fallen in love with my nose liao..

iamdanny · Post by **iamdanny** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 2:27 pm

to those who did nose surgery le.

1) is it painful during the op or u dun feel anything? how is the pain like on a scale of 10?
2) after the op after the anesthetics went off will u feel pain? how is the pain like on a scale of 10?
3) lastly how long ur face take to recover from the surgery?

cos my sch starting in aug n if i wan to do nose surgery i haf to do in jul if nt i will nt haf time to recover le... hope some1 can ans my qns thanks

iamdanny · Post by **iamdanny** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 2:30 pm

ocean11 wrote:
Hannah Lee wrote:Hi lolita,

the website is http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/main/main.asp

it should have all the info u need like phone numbers costs etc.

Katy: If u wanna see pics of extrusion with silicone Dr. Jung has a whole section on it here http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/other/other01.asp

Dr. Jung never uses L shape silicone implants cuz of the risk of extrusion at the tip so he always puts your own ear cartilage there. And for me taking the ear cartilage was not a big deal. My ear stitches were removed 5 days post op and not alot of pain after that.
Alemak! this post by hannah nearly freak me out! having nitemare for the passed few days!! the side effects of the silicon really looked scary man!!
But come to think of it... there're tons of surgery using sillicon for the passed decade, don tell me all silicon are going to have problems??? i hope not.. if not, mabe i should tot of renew it after 10 yrs later..
My mother in law had rhinoplasty 30 yrs ago, her nose still well and intact lay.. somemore 30yrs ago technology is far worst den now.. so i personally think it depend on luck and the skill of the surgeon or the material they use not from those 3rd world countries made or made by recycle material.. so it should be ok la.. *consoled myself*
cos i can't bear to take out my implant now!! already fallen in love with my nose liao..

hi ocean11 ur implant is L shape ar? hmm does ur tip changes as well? i tot of going for L shape but scared of the extrusion of silicone.. sigh... is 21yrs old very young age to do nose surgery?

ocean11 · Post by **ocean11** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 2:58 pm

iamdanny wrote:
ocean11 wrote:
Hannah Lee wrote:Hi lolita,

the website is http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/main/main.asp

it should have all the info u need like phone numbers costs etc.

Katy: If u wanna see pics of extrusion with silicone Dr. Jung has a whole section on it here http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/other/other01.asp

Dr. Jung never uses L shape silicone implants cuz of the risk of extrusion at the tip so he always puts your own ear cartilage there. And for me taking the ear cartilage was not a big deal. My ear stitches were removed 5 days post op and not alot of pain after that.
Alemak! this post by hannah nearly freak me out! having nitemare for the passed few days!! the side effects of the silicon really looked scary man!!
But come to think of it... there're tons of surgery using sillicon for the passed decade, don tell me all silicon are going to have problems??? i hope not.. if not, mabe i should tot of renew it after 10 yrs later..
My mother in law had rhinoplasty 30 yrs ago, her nose still well and intact lay.. somemore 30yrs ago technology is far worst den now.. so i personally think it depend on luck and the skill of the surgeon or the material they use not from those 3rd world countries made or made by recycle material.. so it should be ok la.. *consoled myself*
cos i can't bear to take out my implant now!! already fallen in love with my nose liao..

hi ocean11 ur implant is L shape ar? hmm does ur tip changes as well? i tot of going for L shape but scared of the extrusion of silicone.. sigh... is 21yrs old very young age to do nose surgery?

Hi jamdanny,
i cant tell u are u too young to go thru PS.. cos it really up to individual wether one can take the trumatize if surgery doesnt work out well.. and the patience that u need to have during the healing part, and mental prepare for the bruises or swelling that u need to face.. really need lotsa patience, supports from ur families members..

i cant tell u which is good (grotex or silicon) cos both got their pros and cons. so it the best to consult the professional, guess they will give u a beta pic and idea..
Mine should be L shape, i tip looks sharper i think.. at least lotsa ppls said i got sharp nose now.. so should be sharp la..

iamdanny · Post by **iamdanny** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 3:17 pm

hi ocean 11 thanks for the reply... hmmm cos i stil tinking if i shd proceed my nose surgery with a sg doc or nt lor.. scare of many things.. pain and the healing part most impt muz look gd after the surgery n nt uglier... sigh.... dunno where toget the courage from.... u took how long to heal to normal skin? n how many days aft ur surgery ur nose heal le? n is it painful to u during the op n aft the anesthetic go off? sorry for so many qns

jovinliu · Post by **jovinliu** » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 4:47 pm

Alamak my dear PS buddy, our's is gortex not silicon lah. When i went for a consultation with Dr Chang, he showed me 1 bowl of silicon implants which he took out from patients who wanted to do revision on their rhinoplasty. They are hard, and when you drop them on the table, it actually sounds like you are scattering matches on the table. Usually they are white in colour too.

As for gortex, it's soft, rubbery, can turn and twist. I asked Dr Hsu to show me the kind of implant he used, and played for awhile with it. It's really like rubber, can tie a knot even! Ok lah abit too exaggerating... can tie knot but maybe the bridge will snap... WAAHAHAAAHAH!!!!

As extracted from 1 website:

Gortex®
Gortex® is a synthetic implant which has been used for years in cardiovascular surgery and renal transplant surgery. In recent years, it has had increased popularity as a soft tissue implant in the face because of its soft contour and minimal complications. With any type of implant there is always the potential for infection, rejection, irritation, and reaction.

Strips of Gortex® are inserted in the loose connective tissue under the lip or facial surfaces. The implant is introduced through the chin and cheek, and then threaded underneath the skin. The entrance and exit sites are closed with a small dissolvable suture. In deep folds, several augmentation procedures spaced at least three months apart may be necessary. The advantage of this technique is that the implant does not dissolve and there will be additional augmentation due to the body's fibrous tissue being stimulate to form around the Gortex® implant. Over the next 90 days, a fibrous tissue capsule forms which provides additional augmentation and contouring, serving to further insulate the implant.

Honestly if Dr Hsu still use silicon implant, i won't agree to do my rhinoplasty with him. I don't like the idea of having a hard material in my face, especially on a sensitive part like my nose.

So, my dear buddy, you may rest your mind a little bit at ease since our's is not the dreadful silicon, but it doesn't mean there's no risk at all. Every procedure every surgery comes with risk, there's none with 0 percent risk. Just take care and observe any changes.

Tonight you can sleep in peace liao

/Jovin

ocean11 wrote:
Hannah Lee wrote:Hi lolita,

the website is http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/main/main.asp

it should have all the info u need like phone numbers costs etc.

Katy: If u wanna see pics of extrusion with silicone Dr. Jung has a whole section on it here http://korea.nose.co.kr/english/other/other01.asp

Dr. Jung never uses L shape silicone implants cuz of the risk of extrusion at the tip so he always puts your own ear cartilage there. And for me taking the ear cartilage was not a big deal. My ear stitches were removed 5 days post op and not alot of pain after that.
Alemak! this post by hannah nearly freak me out! having nitemare for the passed few days!! the side effects of the silicon really looked scary man!!
But come to think of it... there're tons of surgery using sillicon for the passed decade, don tell me all silicon are going to have problems??? i hope not.. if not, mabe i should tot of renew it after 10 yrs later..
My mother in law had rhinoplasty 30 yrs ago, her nose still well and intact lay.. somemore 30yrs ago technology is far worst den now.. so i personally think it depend on luck and the skill of the surgeon or the material they use not from those 3rd world countries made or made by recycle material.. so it should be ok la.. *consoled myself*
cos i can't bear to take out my implant now!! already fallen in love with my nose liao..

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