Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

[singal]

[quote="singal

by the way, what's SinEcch? what is it for?

SinEcch is a Homeopathic med. (Arnica Montana). it is clinically proven to reduce bruising and swelling and pain caused by trauma or surgery. I 100% believe it made a HUGE difference in my recovery.[/quote]

so i can take that after i go for my liposuction.it will help heal after, will it have any side effect?

[giraffe]

[quote="singal

by the way, what's SinEcch? what is it for?

SinEcch is a Homeopathic med. (Arnica Montana). it is clinically proven to reduce bruising and swelling and pain caused by trauma or surgery. I 100% believe it made a HUGE difference in my recovery.

so i can take that after i go for my liposuction.it will help heal after, will it have any side effect?[/quote]

Usually one pill on the morning of surgery. 3 tabs a day for 4 days. Get permission from your doc and request that medicine. Depending on anesthetic and your medical history some doctors might decide not to give you. Eat pineapples after.

[giraffe]

I mean eat pineapples after your tummy is ok and if you don't have gastritis and other tummy problems. Eat it after a full meal and you should be okay.

[ahmeilover]

Thanks giff... anyway so hard to get it den i jus leave it slowly to deswell den...

anyway i alr overcome the ugly period.. jus tt waiting for my final results... Thanks!

[young_princess]

rabbit: i agree with jovin's pov regarding the surgeon's service...so hang in there k? how r u buy the way? hope ur nose nd ur disposition is so mch beter..

[myNose]

It's been awhile since I came to this forum. A lil shock I must say. Did I come into the right forum?

The truth is you can't please everybody. Respect is the word. If people look down on us because we did PS, it just proves how shallow they are. Very sad. If a little corrective change makes you feel more confident, PLS go ahead with no regrets. People can say what they want but you must believe in yourself.

Rabbit,
Sorry to hear that u have lost your money. Did u tell this to Dr kim? His wards might have a security video. My nose is also slightly fatter at the tip, it's actually more natural this way. If your nose tip is too sharp, it might look unnatural. Wait for a 3-4months before you decide to do a corrective surgery. Give time for your nose to heal.

Are you alone in Seoul? I was alone then too. Being alone could make you feel depressed. Once you are feeling better, try going out. Korea has many good hair salons, n they do super nice curls! The nearest will prob be the salon next to riverview hotel. Go for a mini makeover, do your hair, have a massage, it will make u feel better instantly!

Hi Ocean 11 and Xiaobai,

I'm so glad to see your email! It makes me feel much better, I really hope the things that you say will apply to me too...

Ocean 11, the type of treatment is consider the Korean type already, they usually use I shape then ear cartilage for the tip. Having seen so many nice noses from korean stars to the nurses in the clinic, I though I chose the right choice, but what you said is exactly the point I want to highlight: ie even it's the same method, others look nice, it may not be the same for you. Other rhino wannabe, pls. pls. bear that in mind. But to choose and experience doc is good. I can tell the skill of Dr. Kim is so much better than the one I did my alar reduction in SG. I remember I saw some notes on his table before the surgery. I wonder if he had done that before!

Xiaobai, xie xie ni! My nose now is just a fat round nose, I bet pple with this nose will go for rhinoplasty as well... was wondering why the Dr. give me such a round nose... after reading your post, I'm slightly hopeful. Originally, I was thinking of going back and ask how much if were to pull out the implant, revert to the same nose... I guess I will give it sometime then.

But for the implant I chose, Gortex, the good part is, it's soft and slightly porerous, so the cell will grow on it / into it as time goes by and it will glue firmly in the body, but the bad part as compare to silicon is that, if were to take it out, it will not be as easy... so I guess I'm going to ask the doc when is the best time to take it out before it's too late.

I really really appreciate your support! Though I'm still very depress... but at least I feel that there's someone I can talk to, who have been there done that, can share my anxiety. Thanks again!

[leenaaaa]

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[kwelll]

Hey "mynose" and "rabbit",

Just want to know what has happened since your nose lift? did you get wat u wanted or predicated? Was it done in Korea ? where?

Nor

[Rabbit]

Hi all, esp Jovin, MyNose, Leenaaa and those who want to go BK,

Sorry, was unable to connect to internet sometime at night in the Service Apartment, but thank you very much to your support! And I finally see the difference! I must say I at least like my new nose than the old one. I'm so glad that I chance upon this forum and get to know the info, made such decision and met some of you in person!

Jovin, bcos my body usually don't swell much, so I thought that's my almost final look. My last op, the SG doc keep saying it's swelling la and asked me to wait to see the result, probably alar don't have much swelling too. After 3 yrs, the result is almost the same as it was 1 week after the ops.

For my new nose, the shape doesn't change much, but somehow it looks nicer since the 2nd day after I remove my stitches. (Details of the PS experience sharing in next post).

Saw the 7 more pages after I MIA for a few days... was thinking a lot of discussion going on... ah ya, like last time, wasted my time to do all the skipping, luckily internet access is free. Usually I wld just ignore them totally, but this time, I do read them a bit... ha ha... probably too much free time for 2 wk annual leave.

Then I start thinking... ladies that put on make up is consider ok, push up bra is also ok too. Somehow in US, makeup was said to be a must at work and is a kind of respect for an occassion ... so if a girl put highlight and shadow in the bridge during make up to make the nose look higher... so that is ok... for us go PS to make the nose permanently higher... it's consider mentally got probelm? How about teeth braces lei? So that is ok too? Or "those guys" would also look down on them? Errr... how about LASIK? Do you know for degree difference for more than 300 between the 2 eyes, even medisave in Singapore covers it cos it's very uncomfortable without specs. So then LASIK is some vain thing again or medical reason... but some just do for beauty only, then what's your judgement?

So the long and short of it is, it's very difficult to draw the line and we all have freedom to spend $. There is no point to argue on it cos different pple have different set of value and believe. I won't ask "those guys" to stop posting cos it doesn't seems to work anyway, post la, you are welcome... and I will skip, as usual. Hope there is no limit in this post though...

Frankly, I never buy huge diamond (hee... do buy a small one though), also don't eat buffet cos its a waste of food and $. Never really spend $ for travel, but extend my stay during work trips whenever there is chance. Bcos I want to save $ to do this once in a life time PS. You can use $ in your own way and I use mine in this way.

My response on 2 comments:
1) There's some comment seems defined that parents won't let their children do PS... do you know in Korea, parents pay for their children to do double eyelid, nose job etc as their graduation gifts? Bcos the world is cruel, somehow more pleasant looking girls really stand a higher chance to be employed. That's the fact. If qualification is the same, all are U grads, one ugly and one more pleasant looking, without knowing the person after 2 interviews, I guess the employer would tends to go for a more pleasant looking one.

2) Some pages back, one of "those guys" also ask "is PS improve your qualify of life in anyway?" Having been thru' it, almost disappointed in it and finally start seeing result, I guess I'm sort of qualify to state my comment. And I must say YES! Of course there's risk in taking this jump, but if result is good, it really makes you re-born.

My story, you may want to skip...
Since primary school... everyone call me "electric socket nose" (in Chinese la) cos my nostrils are big... and why they are big lei, bcos my mum has big nostrils too. To top it up, I have very bad sinnus since young, always get cold too... so running nose, rubbing nose is a daily activities. Excessive rubbing etc make the tissue grow much more in the nose tip, and voila, I got a big nose tip and big nostrils.

Thought that is only primary school tease... you are wrong, even in work place, 2 years ago which was my 6th years of working, some naughty guys in my KL office still call me as such when joking... probably they don't know that is my most saddest part to be teased.

Now after PS, some excessive flash are trimmed that made the nostrils smaller, slightly higher bridge which make me look more femine and gentle.

Before that, I would never take pix with my jaw raised, always head pointing down to hide the big nostrils, so now, I no longer need to do so. I feel that it's a blessing from God that I took the pluge and finally got the result that I quite like. Thx God!

This is my only and probably would be the last post in responding to "those guys" cos I fully believe if you stop talking to them, they will vanish... and must be persistant orh... be it whatever they say... must hold it, not to reply!

But sorry, this time round, I just want to share a little of my experience, after going thru' so much... err... sorry to make it like a blog... but thanks for taking time to read it.

OK, see my next post for PS experience la.

Rdgs,
Rabbit @ Singapore

[Rabbit]

To all,

The para below was typed on my 2nd day. But couldn't sent out due to connection failure:

I must say that I'm less unhappy than before, it's a bit of +ve mood even. Right after the 7th day when I removed my plaster, I start to see the improvement slowly comes in. However. the new nose only worth 75 out of 100. The front view is still not nice, but the side view is quite good. The only bad thing in the side view is the bridge in btw the eyes is too high. According to whatever scale, the bridge should only start to get height from middle of the eyes and below... but mine is from the top, so quite artificial. However after all, I look back the before op photos, I must say, I like the new one than the old one at least, so this trip is not regreted. Though it's not ideally, but at least there's some improvement in the look.

I'm praying the bridge and the tip will slowly further settle down. Probably I will like it more.

The funny feeling of implant as well as lost of feeling in the back of my right ear is still sad... but somehow become diluted when the look gets better and probably after shopping therapy (see my 3rd post of today for detail shopping experience sharing). Esp for implant, after the plaster is removed, surpringly I found out the bridge is already hard like bone... or the implant is put underneath the bone membrance...according to some web-site. Anyway, as stated, Gortex are semi porous, so your tissue will somehow grow into it and mix together, sort of become part of your body. Right now, the only no good feeling is like a bit of bruise feeling when you touch it. The bridge towards the tip is still hard all the way, but the tip is less swollen, feel that my dear nose finally recognize her sister who "sacrificed" from the ear to accompany her!

Other occassion that I will still feel the implant: (1) when I say "har" and raise my eye brows, the implant is pulling, likewise when I say "eee" when I move my mouth upwards. (2) when in cold weather, probably I'm still not fully recovered yet, having foreign object somehow make my nose numb faster and the whole thing become frozen kind... hope it will improve.

Last but not least, for those who want to alar reduction. I would highly recommend to go Korea, for the 2 docs that I considered, Dr. Jung and Dr. Kim (ie BK), their skill in alar is just wonderful! Having get mine done by the SG Doc, who gave me 2 big scars and a 0.5mm reduction, I sort of able to tell what is consider good. What Dr. Kim did to me is significant alar + open rhino all don't leave significant scar, but the alar do leave some crease (Dr. Kim also told me since it's the 2nd time... wld hv more scars). He helped me even removed the ugly scars left by that SG Doc.

For TWN docs, I can't say much cos I only saw before and after photos by Dr. Chang, the rest all don't post their patients' photos. I decided not to go to Dr. Chang is also partly bcos of his alar skill is not as good. The scar is still quite visible for most of the cases. The other reason is, nose job is a daily affair to Korea doc, so again, I go for the experienced.

Below is my feeling today - day 12:
Less feeling of the implant, bridge further reduced in size and less obvious in the side profile and 45 degree profile (that's my favourite!). I can do more "har" (raise eyebrow) and "eee" (raise my mouth) motion without feeling the pull.
Front profile is still not nice, no clear contour of the nose but still slightly better than before, at least nostrils are not as visible.
My yesterday's look was quite nice, today further subside seems less nice lei... started to worry how would the final look turns out to be... hope it's to my liking.
Started to have a bit of migrane since last night taking the flight back. Was thinking during flight time with different pressure, I may feel pain, but nothing lei. Everything seems fine. But the slight migrane still there, hope it will goes off soon... cos I never have migrane before!
I didn't remove my stitches for the ear cos the nurse say that usually in Korea they remove it only after 2 wks. So I decided to come back and go to a GP or PS to have them removed. Trust those stitches are all in black and could be removed easily.
Still no feeling in the back of my ear. But function and look is intact as the doc said.

OK, better don't write any more, the post is very long... see my next post for shopping if you are going to Korea.

Ah... for those who know how to upload photos in web-site, can teach me how? Wanted to post the before and after photos online so that I don't need to say email one by one lei. If you want to see (got day 1 elephant look)... got to work a bit and teach me, ok?

Rdgs,
Rabbit

[Rabbit]

Hi all,

Here is my little shopping experience, for those that knows Seoul well, can just skip it:

I've never in my life shop thru' out the night and in Korea, it’s my first time and it’s really impressed. The shops just don’t close and everybody is alive and kicking! That is Dongdaemun.

Dongdaemun shopping is not bad, a bit ex, but at least you will be interested to see those things, not like KL… sorry la, if there’s any KL fans. And the best part is, it opens from 10.30am to next day 5am! You can visit whatever scenic spots and leave the shopping to the end. Since their subway off from around 11.30pm…strange, once you miss it, to save the expensive cab fare, you may as well just shop till the next day when Subway is back in 5.30am. There are little cafes on every floor and sitting area in all shopping mall, so it's ok, you won't die. My favourite in Dongdaemun is Doota.

Another place worth seeing is the street market, there are a few recommended in KNTO's (anyway, their Tourism Board la) web-site. They only open on Sat, and I chose to go this one whereby the art student produce their own art piece, music, pottery etc and the govt. give them an area to sell their things. It's not cheap though, but they are all quite nice and unique. Do look out for a name tag kind of thing which has a number and a big word "artist" on it, cos there are others just try to put their commercial things and sell it side by side. Like last Sat, many of the “artists”

[Rabbit]

Sorry... my post just come like diarrhea...

This one must be big and bold... sorry need to catch some attention here:

Anyone need Korean won? I accidentally pressed 1 more "zero" when I withdrawl $ in Citibank ATM machine... so S$80 become S$800... on my 2nd last day back to Singapore.... woo woo woo. Pls. let me know if you are going Seoul, change back to $ changer will lost quite a lot if I'm not wrong, so may as well we settle a rate and lose a bit to you girls. Also, get won from me will have free coins given... keep it also no use ma.

Pls. take note that the Korean local bank don't really have the global ATM kind of service, ie cirrus, plus etc. (see logos at the back of your ATM cards)... so go for StandChart or Citibank to withdrawl $ if you need more there.

[kwelll]

Hi Rabbit

well ... just sent you a private message hope to see your reply.
Nor

[Rabbit]

Hi MyNose,

Hee, I didn't stay at Riverview, so missed the salon you mentioned. But I guess before I go back to office on 2 May, I will take your advice and go for a nice hair do too.

Since I got wound on the back of my ear, I've cut down my wash hair frequency to a the minimum... sorry, I know it's disgusting.

Tips for Rhino wanna be. If you are going for open rhino, do go to Watson and buy this brand called "Uriage", it has thermal water content etc. It's those cloth that can remove make up. You know after the plaster was removed, the marks for surgery "it's a blue cross" on top of my nose was so obvious and even alchohol cannot remove it, but those make up remover cloth works very well, remove all dirt after a week I never wash face, all sticky materials left by the plaster and the ugly blue mark!

So here is the packing list again:
- make up cloth remover for "no water on your face days".
- cotton tip
- alchohol or iodine (the clinic use iodine and it seems their solution works better than my alchohol)
- if go Korea, bring some or stock up there for magie mee / other instant food. They have instant congee in convenience store, that would be good for the 1st and 2nd day.
- going to BK do not need the cool pad etc cos they have plenty.

Hi Leenaaaa,

Sorry, I'm not a smoker, so couldn't answer your question. I didn't have time to buy Sinnec (is it the spelling?), since I got plenty of time to recoup, so I guess it's ok.

Rdgs,
Rabbit

[giraffe]

Rabbit: Very happy to hear how you've been doing in book format. Was wondering if you took any medication for swelling (like SinEcch)?

Your ear will remain numb for a while. It takes time for the nerves to return to normal (from three months to a year). Residual swelling for your nose might last for a period of 1 year (even if not visible to our eye). It is only a matter of time. Don't worry about that one bit!

What is it like to 'adjust'?

Happy healing.

(This is what this thread should be about. Keep contributing! )