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Postby giraffe » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:53 am

Thanks hatemynose.

I will be going in for a consultation with him in Feb. I just want someone who is professional and nice with good results. I prefer someone cheaper of course but I don't know many good PSs. Korea is out cause I don't want a language problem and I am not going for an implant.

What do you think about http://www.csc-sg.com/profile.htm Dr Hong I met once last year, was very professional but mostly does implants.

Anyone been to him? His site has many pics too. check it out

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Postby Irenea » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:14 pm

I, Airene Chen Shi Yun, would like to apologize to Dr Martin Huang of Pacific Healthcare Holdings Ltd for those defamatory statements which I had posted on Singapore Expat Forum website.

I hereby admit my foolish and irresponsible act and sincerely apologize to Dr Martin Huang for those baseless and untrue statements.

I assure that I would not do this again in future.

I wish to highlight to other users who have been discussing my postings online that you are required to delete my postings that are attached to your postings as this may be taken as publication on your part of defamatory statements that were made by me.

Airene Chen Shi Yun
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Postby giraffe » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:49 pm

Can you go to a different doc and get it evaluated? If it contradicts Dr. H then you take it up legally.

I totally agree docs have to be honest with patients and above all ethical. We place so much trust in docs and if they abuse it the public has a right to know.

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Postby myNose » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 2:36 pm

U can stay in the hospital free of charge plus they have free internet svc in the room! Since u did nose reduction too, ur recovery period shud be slightly longer than me, U shud look decent in 1 week+. R u still in Seoul? So lucky ur sis acc u. I was there all alone, guess Im v brave, the most scary part for me was when I was ask to go to the operating table, the girl in the next room was screaming and crying. I looked calm but i was actually freakin scared! nearly peed in my pants. hee. Btw they haf alot of takeaway food joints there. U dont even need to leave ur room, juz call n they will sent food to ur room. v cheap too.

make sure the ice pack dont touch ur nose implant, dont wear specs if u do. make sure there no weight on ur face. i would advice u not to use the ice pack to much as it only helps in the swell but not the bruise. for bruise u need warm pack. contradicting when u haf both so the best just let it heal naturally.

i will pm u my name. take care n get well soon!

hatemynose wrote:Hey mynose! I didnt have the chance to talk to that ger coz of my current state, but my sister accompanied me here, so i am very fortunate/.. if anyone wants to do serious rhinoplasty (not just implant) i think its damn important some1 acoompaines u. need some1 to buy u food, change ice pack, walk with u, etc. u cant do this all on ur own coz the first few days after the op will be the worse days of ur life omg..

now theres one temp nurse who can speak english and chinese, but she only be here for 1 month... yea Dr Kim is SOOOO busy... so hard to talk to him, he always wearing his op mask ready to go stright into another surgery after talking to me... i guess if ure famous ur life is like that lol..

how long then ur brusies gone away? for 2 days my eyes swollen. 2 days bruised/ i hope its gone tmr... i din ask for anything in particular, i just told him to do what is the most suitable for my facce, and the two things i hate about my nose is the tip and nostril size.

whats ur name., ill tell him u said hi when i see u again! omg i didnt know u could stay in the hospiltar! every day i walked back to the motel 15 mins away from the clinic.. arghhhhh!!

i also not sure to use ice pack some time, coz i scared it will cause the implant to shift if i put wrongly..... i want the dr kim to see if the implant shifted accidently, but he said dont have to worry about that. he always says that!!! i hope hes correct..... the nurses say he do alot of famous korean stars...... and some of the nurses there are so pretty ..


myNose wrote:So lucky! U met another Singaporean there..got friend. Felt like a dinosaur for the 5 days when I was in that hospital. The only person I could have a decent conversation was Dr Kim Byung Gun. But he is sooo damn bz. I bruise pretty badly around my eyes too. Maybe we have more sensitive skin. Did u ask for the high or medium profile? Help me say hi to Dr Kim ok? Im the only singapore gal tat came on boxing day last yr. R u staying in the hospital? If u r hungry, u can call the nurse (there's one tat can speak abit of mandarin) to call for food for u.

gd luck! U be better by the 5th day


hatemynose wrote:Hi i had my nose job in koreas bk clinic 3 days ago. im so happy, hahaha, especially when i can feel him cutting off my nose in the OP. i hate my noSE, i hate i i hate it i hate it=

my whole face is so swollen, my eyes are damn bruised and my face hurts alot. there are lots of brusing around my eyes. its hard to eat food, i was bearthing thru my mouth the last 4 days, and i cant smell anything. my op cost 3.5k USD. DR kim seems very confident and profesional, but i cant see any results so far coz its still swollen and i dont dare look.

those who want to go for nose job should seriously consider if u really want it.. coz u reallly have to go thru alot of pain..implant is not alot of pain. its the nose reduction / alar + bone narrow which hurts alot.

i also saw another singaporean here who went for consultatiion for her eyelids. that was nice.

will post more when im feeling better!

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Postby JS2 » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 4:41 pm

Hi Irenea and all

I have been following this thread and would like to say something here. I have just had my eyelids done with Dr M Huang. They are still recovering and are swollen. It has been 3 weeks and I am seriously worried about how my eyes would turn out. Good thing is the procedure is reversible, so if I really do not like the outcome, I can have it reversed.

Irenea, my interactions with Dr Huang tell me that he is a professional and sincere doctor. He knows his stuff well and always takes the effort to make sure his patients are all right. I wouldn't go into detail about my interactions with him but he has been observing professional medical ethics and personal integrity.
You mentioned that you suspect Dr Huang injected some foreign substance into your cheeks instead of the requested fats. This is rather impossible as any 'cheek implants' would certainly cost more than fats. Why would Dr Huang insist on injecting something more foreign and more expensive than what you have requested for? I don't know, I find it strange that he would lose his integrity and professionalism over a procedure like this?

Hope you don't take offence. I just want to share my two cents' worth of opinion of Dr Huang. Of course, my own surgery outcome is not certain yet. I really do hope that my eyes would turn out fine.....

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Postby redwinecider » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 4:45 pm

Hi giraffe,

My girl friend had gone to Dr Hong abt 1 year plus back to tuck in her ears. She got this mickey mouse ears. She told me that Dr Hong did a good job for her and the price was reasonable.

I was the one who recommend Dr Hong to her cos i went for a consultation regarding about my scar.I did do anything to my scar cos Dr Hong say it is actually alright to leave it alone as it is not obvious. He wasnt that kind of person trying to buy you into something. So..i think he is not bad but for his skills of nose ops, am not very sure. tks.

giraffe wrote:Thanks hatemynose.

I will be going in for a consultation with him in Feb. I just want someone who is professional and nice with good results. I prefer someone cheaper of course but I don't know many good PSs. Korea is out cause I don't want a language problem and I am not going for an implant.

What do you think about http://www.csc-sg.com/profile.htm Dr Hong I met once last year, was very professional but mostly does implants.

Anyone been to him? His site has many pics too. check it out

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My nose surgery experience

Postby redwinecider » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 5:03 pm

Hi ladies,

Sorry it took me so long to come in here again. Had been very busy with work and away.It had been more than a month.

First, I will like to thank Jovin once again for sharing with us on her experience. I am one of them who had went over to taipei to do my nose Ops with Dr. Jiang.I am pleased with the results so far but however, women are like this....it never seems enough...hahaa... I do wish that my nose could be a little bit higher and sharper.

Overall experience was rather easy to cope. It wasnt that drama after all.So any gals who are really keen n had been thinking to do something about their nose, do go ahead...dun live life with regrets later but however, again..do consider the minor error. Am really happy that i had went ahead to do it. My nose do look better and many of my friends had said that i looked prettier.

For my case, I think my nose did not have much dramatic changes. Its a litte bit higher n sharper from the side view. It was very natural and even my best friend couldnt tell. I can only say it really look natural. Dr Jiang said i should not have a too high nose as it dun suits me.

Dr Jiang skills are very good cos the whole process is so fast and it only took like 10mins?? It was a minor ops. He is really famous in taipei like ovin mentioned. Our another friend is also very happy with the results.








jovinliu wrote:Hi,

Sorry, i got nothing against you, but i just can't help but comment. First of all, it is expected to pay more if you prefer to perform a plastic surgery procedure in Singapore. From my research (only in Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, Korea), Singapore is listed the top for the most expensive country to perform a plastic surgery, Korea is second (but the price, since they charge US$ and after factoring accomodation and air tickets it may be even more ex than Singapore), Taiwan comes in the 3rd place and Thailand is the cheapest.

Dr. Wu charges about $6k for a simple rhinoplasty, Dr. Huang's reputation and skills is said to be as good as Dr. Wu, so if something more than a rhinoplasty is performed, it is considered normal for him to charge $11k. And, PS will not include consultation, medication fee and other misc fee in their quotation, it is also not normal to do so. So, end up if you really want to have a Martin-Huang-nose, it's normal you have to fork out $12k.

This is my own point of view: In Singapore, we have Martin Huang and Woffles Wu as pioneer of plastic surgery. There are equally good and famous PS in other countries too, and if they charge cheaper, it doesn't warrant a compromise in quality and skill. Take for example Dr. Sukit from Yanhee and Dr. Jiang from Taipei (this guy reallllyyyy famous there), count the number of happy and satisfied patients. Dr. Jiang is as good as Martin Huang, but he don't charge as high. I have a few friends who did their nose and eyes with him, and they were happy with the results. I was even told to stop telling people about Dr. Jiang, or they end up not being able to get an appointment with him next time! But at the end of the day, you decide which doctor you want to go to, and it's solely your decision, not others'.



/Jovin

giraffe wrote:That is pricey! Does that include hospital fees, anesthesia fees and follow-up fees????????? And if you have to go back to a revision does it include that too?

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Postby giraffe » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 6:34 pm

Thanks all! Very informative. Appreciate all the comments. Just keep on posting!

I will start on a consultation spree starting in Feb. I will let you guys know what I think of the docs.

I met dr. Hong a year ago because of an ear scar I had. Very professional. I might fix the problem with him.

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Postby wenhwa » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 9:11 pm

Actually Dr. Hong caught my eye. I saw his website and indeed there is alot of photos for reference. Does anyone knows how much he charges for consultation? Also, for Dr. Jiang in taipei.. does anyone have his website or any reference materials that I can get a hold of online?

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Postby giraffe » Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:13 pm

wenha 100 sg$

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My Apology

Postby Irenea » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 2:19 am

I, Airene Chen Shi Yun, would like to apologize to Dr Martin Huang of Pacific Healthcare Holdings Ltd for those defamatory statements which I had posted on Singapore Expat Forum website.

I hereby admit my foolish and irresponsible act and sincerely apologize to Dr Martin Huang for those baseless and untrue statements.

I assure that I would not do this again in future.

I wish to highlight to other users who have been discussing my postings online that you are required to delete my postings that are attached to your postings as this may be taken as publication on your part of defamatory statements that were made by me.

Airene Chen Shi Yun
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Postby giraffe » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:48 am

Irenea, I am very sorry you had to endure all the pain and humiliation. I think that is very unethical behaviour on the part of the doc. He should respect all his patients equally without prejudice.

Like I said before, why don't you go to another doc and get your situation evaluated. Then that is evidence enough which would stand up in any court of law if you decide to pursue this case legally. I am all for it if doctors act-Godlike and put themselves above everyone and treat patients without any respect and whichever way they feel.

I am really confused now! Should I see Dr. Wu? What are some other good docs? I have read several interviews of Dr. Huang and I have been pretty impressed by his concern for his patients and their wellbeing. But I also know that can be debatable. That's why I am here to get unbiased opinions from patients who have undergone treatments. Thank you for sharing your experience irenea. I hope you go to another doc and fix the problem.

JS2. Please continue to share with us your progress and your experience with the doc. as you heal. I hope your swelling goes down soon.

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Postby jovinliu » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:02 am

Hi,

If you decide to try out a new restaurant and the food did not turn out well as you expected, do you demand money back? Likewise, if you go to MH for any cosmetic procedure (bear in mind you yourself went there willingly) and it did not turn out as expected, is it right to go around bitching about him? A doctor can never have 100% success in any procedure they do. You should have fully understood and accept this fact before you even visit a plastic surgeon. If a doctor had saved 100 lives before but did not manage to save 1, he must be condemned as a "bad doctor" by you then.

"I am also a very bright person in human anatomy and physiology. and From what i can feel on my face, it don't seem to be 100% of what Martin huang had told me. There seem to be more to it." <== don't ASSUME. Go confirm this, instead of spending 1 hour writing about your bad experience. And please, don't go to Woffles Wu or if he comments there's nothing wrong with you, you will start saying because they are both good friends and are trying to cover up for each other. Go to any other surgeons to confirm what's wrong with your face, don't wallow in self-misery.



/Jovin


[quote="Irenea"]To: JS2

I am neither put to any offense. I understand the freedom of opinions. :)
Let me make some explainations on my stand. There's always something behind the way people behave and why the reacted the way they do. We are afterall human and we too have feelings . We are not just some pre-programmed robots who reacted deadly with no cause. Nor am i here to convince anyone to believe what i say. This is just to share my experienc with Dr Martin Huang.
Just read what i post here with an open mind, you still have yr entitlement to your opinions.

[color=red]I think first, it's rather unusual for a person who has yet fully recovered from their surgery to praise their surgeon. Second, If u are really Martin huang's candidate, you can only know how he would have reacted i.e when your situations are abnormal.

You had not any complications arising so far. so even if you provide the details of yr interactions with him here, it serve no purpose to the situation i'm sharing. It's difficult for you to believe what i say as you are not in that position yet. AND that's not a problem here. I'm not here to convince people who is right and who's wrong. I only shared my experience base on what i encountered between him and me.

Initially, I too had a good impression of him. He showed concern on what he had performed on my face 3 weeks post surgery. Unfortunately, When complications arised;i.e when i began to detect problems after a period of time (1 year later), I sent him emails but he never did reply once, so I left telephone messages, and to my disappointment again, no one feedbacked to me. He did not tell his nurses to feed back to me.
What kind of medical intergrity is this? I can understand if they are busy, probably he will ask the nurse to response to me he will feedbackat a later date, but he didn't. His attitude to me just spells "Hack Care" .

I had to go down to the clinic personally to see him about my face issue since I really have no idea what is actually performed on my face. He saw me very late at 8.45 pm (3 hours after the scheduled appointed time i am to see him)
He denied all my concerns and chuck away my problems. He is obviously changing my concern subject. I am courteous and poilte with him despite my resentment for the mess he did. In other words, i am bearing (tolerating ) with his irresponsibility attitude over my emails and telephone message. He failed to take the effort to make sure I am fine. I wanted a clear idea what he had actually done on my face, because my situation doesn't line up with his proclaimation and i am feeling uncomfortable on my face for a period of time.
I am also a very bright person in human anatomy and physiology. and From what i can feel on my face, it don't seem to be 100% of what Martin huang had told me. There seem to be more to it.

You can't just make that statement "he has been observing professional medical ethics and personal integrity" unless you work as a nurse in his clinic side by side, or would i say long enough for you to understand him, then yr statement will be an accurate form. Otherwise it's only a blind and surpassing statement without solid proof. You are just a candidate of M. Huang's Plastic surgery , and your final outcome is not even determined yet, what do you really know about him?
Do you know that he appeared on the newspaper for the death of 1 indian woman around Aug 2001 when performing liposuction? He case is published on the Straits Times. this has been subjected to investigation and there was a court hearing to it. Meaning people took action legally against Dr. Martin huang. Being a plastic surgeon, you can hire the best lawyer since you are earning great deal. and the verdict was Martin huang again was found not guilty of her death. And the anaethetist was blamed fully for it. now this is again very "grey-areas" issues. Had Huang really been innocent for her death or was he also involved but he manage to get away free and twist the blame on another party?

Not long after, he shifted from his clinic and wisma atria #11 floor to paragon. I guess he must have an uneasy feeling to operate in a room where a person had died there. And i noticed all his nurses changed after he newly located to Paragon.

Let me go explicitly here - Think about it, on that day the nurses working side by side with him on liposuction procedure for the Indian woman will perhaps have an honest opinion of who really cause her death. If you are 1 of the nurse, and u witnessed the truth on that day, will u dare to speak up and expose this terribly rich "murderer" if he's partially responsible for it? You will be facing his super lawyers and despite of standing up to speak truth for itself, there's a possibility you may be sued for "slander" , not just this but also making "false statements" against the doctor. Will you take up this risk and be willing to stand up for the truth? I will.
(a good comparision will be the T. T durai case. Many are sued by him earlier on, even when they are speaking the truth, exposing his incorrect way of managing NKF - SPH media was sued once )

My experience with him really is emotionaly hurting for me. I can see he is obviously trying to shift the reponsibility and he even got worked up when i asked his nurse to touch my face and feel it, but he raised his voice and commanded the nurse "No!" . Why is he so defensive and refrain his nurse from analysing my face? Most probably he's afraid of the truth being exposed. A nurse will have sufficient knowledge on what's normal and abnormal 4 the body. And i can see that even if they are to suspect anything wrong, they will be just like the mice least their moral ethics are priortized higher than their personal fears, otherwise, they dare not voice out since, Martin huang pays their salary and is the director of Pacific healthcare. at the end of my meeting with him, he told me i'm wasting everyone's time. (I had asked my friends to accompany me to see him)

Who is wasting whose time here? I send emails , telephone messages with no feedback from him. He made me wait for another 3 hours after the scheduled appointed time i am to see him. I think the answer is obvious for those who have brains to think. :roll:

I had a strong impression that Martin huang 's personality somewhat resemble T. T durai. The Director of NKF. He's filfthy rich and can sue anyone with his best lawyer regardless the issue is correct or accurate about him. People of this nature are very cunning, they just give the right impression at the right occasion and will be having another image when problems arised which challenge their reputation since they expose their wrong doings/negligience in their code of conduct, their profession work ethics.

I don't think he's that simple minded to do something which reap no benefits to him. It's common for doctor to experiment on patients when they think they have discovered a new technique or procedures ( while on the progress to pioneer something new). I did my facial fats injection in 12 Dec 2000 to be exact. Definitely, the technique of injecting into the eye groves is not performed for anyone yet. Before my surgery, Dr. Martin Huang never injected fats into the orbital groves of anyone's eyes. this procedures is not even common among young people. I am the guinea pig for this. This method is originally suggested by me myself. the reason - I want to firm up my lower eyelids.

I initially wanted to opt for a canthopexy but it seem foreign to Dr Huang at that time when i mention about this technique . Later i came up the idea of using my own fats for area of injections. I spearheaded to him what to use ( fats injection) and the locations. (the area around the groves of the eyes and laughing lines) And I suspected that he inserted something into my cheeks via the intra oral approach to better support the fats injected at the eye groves. After which, this technique is a hit with Martin Huang’s patients.
Before I went to huang, he’s a nobody. After 3 weeks of my surgery, he inevitably noticed fats injection to the sites I requested are significant place (the eye groves) for aging and when fats are introduced there it gives more volume thus making the face appearing more youthful. Wrinkles are lesser at the sites where fats are introduced. He slowly made his way to his fame as I feedback to him more about my face, mentioning what;s wrong with my cheeks via emails , although he never did reply any of my emails, he began to modify his techniques with my email updating. being a very visual person myself, I make my concerns about my cheeks area to him many times, that it’s puffy and what he used for injection to cause this. He inevitably realizes the cheeks to be the key point to enhance a person appearance and to restore youth to an aging face. The cheeks play a crucial role in aesthetic and I realize it since a long time ago. He did inevitably tried the technique which is my original idea on many of his younger patients too adding a little modification here and there to improve the result. And I read Martin Huang “pioneered this fats injection to eye groves”
Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?

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Postby shanvin » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:10 pm

hi jovin

im new to this forum..so glad i manage to find this topic. been wanting to do plastic surgery for quite sometime..

i pm u but nv hear from u.

i wanted to do a nose job as well but i kinda scared of it..

my job liasie alot with doctors so i noe quite a few plastic surgeons locally but the cost is so much diff when u do it overseas.

jovin, r u able to email me ur pics of ur nose?? my email is shan_kok@hotmail.com. mayb i can ask u more in my email.


thanks

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Postby astar » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 1:07 pm

For someone who lied in her very first posts about doing plastic surgery all over her n misleading everyone in this forum.. i would take yr opinion with a pinch of salt.. the fact tat u tink playing around with us in this forum is entertaining shows tat u're not very mature in the first place.. how do we know u're speaking the truth this time or just messing with ppl's minds yet again?
i hope u're seriously not "playing around" again this time..cos e ppl here are serious abt getting plastic surgery n its gonna be a huge, life changing decision for them.. its really mean to get them in a fluster jus because of a foolish prank..
u claim tat u know loads abt the human anatomy.. but u're only 19, how much can u possibly know? u're in medical school? i'm in a medical course but i wouldn't dare say i know a lot abt the human anatomy..
as many ppl here have suggested, get another evaluation from a reputable surgeon instead of whining here.. plus, u might get sued for posting such comments about the doctor.
furthermore, if u know so much abt anatomy, u shud know tat at 19, yr facial contours are still in the midst of developing and changing.. n tat u shouldn't mess with it.. unless u're doing your eyes or nose.. this i belive, is kinda basic knowledge for someone who claims to be well versed in the subject of human anatomy.
i dun wish to offend or insult u or anything.. but if u really didn't get plastic surgery, dun come in here n confuse ppl.. on the other hand, if yr experience with dr huang is 100%true, i sympathise with u because wat can matter more to a gal than her looks? but go do something constructive abt it instead of complaining abt it endlessly..



[quote]I am neither put to any offense. I understand the freedom of opinions. Smile
Let me make some explainations on my stand. There's always something behind the way people behave and why the reacted the way they do. We are afterall human and we too have feelings . We are not just some pre-programmed robots who reacted deadly with no cause. Nor am i here to convince anyone to believe what i say. This is just to share my experienc with Dr Martin Huang.
Just read what i post here with an open mind, you still have yr entitlement to your opinions.

I think first, it's rather unusual for a person who has yet fully recovered from their surgery to praise their surgeon. Second, If u are really Martin huang's candidate, you can only know how he would have reacted i.e when your situations are abnormal.

You had not any complications arising so far. so even if you provide the details of yr interactions with him here, it serve no purpose to the situation i'm sharing. It's difficult for you to believe what i say as you are not in that position yet. AND that's not a problem here. I'm not here to convince people who is right and who's wrong. I only shared my experience base on what i encountered between him and me.

Initially, I too had a good impression of him. He showed concern on what he had performed on my face 3 weeks post surgery. Unfortunately, When complications arised;i.e when i began to detect problems after a period of time (1 year later), I sent him emails but he never did reply once, so I left telephone messages, and to my disappointment again, no one feedbacked to me. He did not tell his nurses to feed back to me.
What kind of medical intergrity is this? I can understand if they are busy, probably he will ask the nurse to response to me he will feedbackat a later date, but he didn't. His attitude to me just spells "Hack Care" .

I had to go down to the clinic personally to see him about my face issue since I really have no idea what is actually performed on my face. He saw me very late at 8.45 pm (3 hours behind my scheduled appointed with him)
During discussions, He failed to take the effort to make sure I am fine. I wanted a clear idea of what he had actually done on my face, because my situation doesn't line up with his proclaimation since my face is feeling uncomfortable for a period of time. and denied all my concerns and chuck away my problems seeminly wanting me to end my questions and for me to leave . He is obviously changing my concern subject. I am courteous and poilte with him despite my resentment for the mess he did. In other words, i am bearing (tolerating ) with his irresponsibility attitude over my emails and telephone message.

I am also a very bright person in human anatomy and physiology. and From what i can feel on my face, it don't seem to be 100% of what Martin huang had told me. There seem to be more to it.

I think to be accurate You can't just make that statement "he has been observing professional medical ethics and personal integrity" unless you really did work with him as a nurse in his side by side, or would i say long enough for you to understand him, then yr statement will be of an accurate form. Otherwise it's only a blind and surpassing statement without solid proof. You obviously don't know what you are saying there. You are just a candidate of M. Huang's Plastic surgery , and your final outcome is not even determined yet, so what do you really know about him?
Do you know that he had appeared on the newspaper for the death of 1 indian woman around Aug 2001 while performing liposuction? His case is published in The Straits Times. this has been subjected to investigation and there was a court hearing to it. Meaning people took action legally against Dr. Martin huang. Being a plastic surgeon, you can hire the best lawyer since you are earning great deal. and the guess what's the verdict ? Martin huang was found not guilty of her death. And the anaethetist was blamed fully for it instead.
Now this is again very "grey-areas" issues. Had Huang really been innocent for her death or was he also involved but he managed again, to get away free and twist the blame on another party? Acting innocent again?

Not long after, he shifted from his clinic and wisma atria #11 floor to paragon. I guess he must have an uneasy feeling to operate in a room where a person had died there. And i noticed all his nurses changed after he newly located to Paragon.

Let me go explicitly here - Think about it, on that day the nurses working side by side with him on liposuction procedure for the Indian woman will perhaps have an honest opinion of who really cause her death. If you are 1 of the nurse, and u witnessed the truth on that day, will u dare to speak up and expose this terribly rich "murderer" if he's partially responsible for it? You will be facing his super lawyers and despite of standing up to speak truth for itself, there's a possibility you may be sued for "slander" , not just this but also making "false statements" against the doctor. Will you take up this risk and be willing to stand up for the truth? I will.

what do u think? Will Martin have the peace in his heart to let his nurses continue working in his clinic whom witnessed the incident ? Or will the witnessing nurses have the peace within themselves to continue working with him? think about it. these are intetresting stuffs to ponder on.
(a good comparision will be the T. T durai case. Many are sued by him earlier on, even when they are speaking the truth, exposing his incorrect way of managing NKF - SPH media was sued once, and sad to say, not even 1 of NKF staffs dare to expose Mr durai's wrong code of conduct in his profession ethics. )

My objective here is to illustrate the cunning characters in society. There's some similarities between the cunning ; in their way of doing things, being inconspicuous while planning for a way of escape, being defensive and inconsiderate to arising complications, being hostile to exposition of his deeds by discerning parties (Shocked another " hit and run" Surprised ) , choosing the right time to speak in hoping to give a good impression aaaaand......finally, using money to solve their legal case by twisting the black into white (making himself appearing innocent) and white into black (making the innocent party who is speaking the truth suffers)

My experience with him really is emotionaly hurting for me. I can see he is obviously trying to shift the reponsibility and he even got worked up when i asked his nurse to touch my face and feel it, but he raised his voice and commanded the nurse "No!" . Why is he so defensive and refrain his nurse from analysing my face? Most probably he's afraid of the truth being exposed. A nurse will have sufficient knowledge on what's normal and abnormal 4 the body. And i can see that even if they are to suspect anything wrong, they will be just like the mice least their moral ethics are priortized higher than their personal fears, otherwise, they dare not voice out since, Martin huang pays their salary and is the director of Pacific healthcare. at the end of my meeting with him, he told me i'm wasting everyone's time. (I had asked my friends to accompany me to see him)

Who is wasting whose time here? I send emails , telephone messages with no feedback from him. He made me wait for another 3 hours after the scheduled appointed time i am to see him. I think the answer is obvious for those who have brains to think. Rolling Eyes

I had a strong impression that Martin huang 's personality somewhat resemble T. T durai. The Director of NKF. He's filfthy rich and can sue anyone with his best lawyer regardless the issue is correct or accurate about him. People of this nature are often very cunning, they just give the right impression at the right occasion and will be having another image when problems arised which challenge their reputation since they expose their wrong doings/negligience in their code of conduct, their profession work ethics.

I don't think he's that simple minded to do something which reap no benefits to him. It's common for doctor to experiment on patients when they think they have discovered a new technique or procedures ( while on the progress to pioneer something new). I did my facial fats injection in 12 Dec 2000 to be exact. Definitely, the technique of injecting into the eye groves is not performed for anyone yet. Before my surgery, Dr. Martin Huang never injected fats into the orbital groves of anyone's eyes. this procedures is not even common among young people. I am the guinea pig for this. This method is originally suggested by me myself. the reason - I want to firm up my lower eyelids.

I initially wanted to opt for a canthopexy but it seem foreign to Dr Huang at that time when i mention about this technique . Later i came up the idea of using my own fats for area of injections. I spearheaded to him what to use ( fats injection) and the locations. (the area around the groves of the eyes and laughing lines) And I suspected that he inserted something into my cheeks via the intra oral approach to better support the fats injected at the eye groves. After which, this technique is a hit with Martin Huang’s patients.
Before I went to huang, he’s a nobody. After 3 weeks of my surgery, he inevitably noticed fats injection to the sites I requested are significant place (the eye groves) for aging and when fats are introduced there it gives more volume thus making the face appearing more youthful. Wrinkles are lesser at the sites where fats are introduced. He slowly made his way to his fame as I feedback to him more about my face, mentioning what;s wrong with my cheeks via emails , although he never did reply any of my emails, he began to modify his techniques with my email updating. being a very visual person myself, I make my concerns about my cheeks area to him many times, that it’s puffy and what he used for injection to cause this. He inevitably realizes the cheeks to be the key point to enhance a person appearance and to restore youth to an aging face. The cheeks play a crucial role in aesthetic and I realize it since a long time ago. He did inevitably tried the technique which is my original idea on many of his younger patients too adding a little modification here and there to improve the result. And I read Martin Huang “pioneered this fats injection to eye groves”


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