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by astar » Mon, 23 Jan 2006 1:07 pm
For someone who lied in her very first posts about doing plastic surgery all over her n misleading everyone in this forum.. i would take yr opinion with a pinch of salt.. the fact tat u tink playing around with us in this forum is entertaining shows tat u're not very mature in the first place.. how do we know u're speaking the truth this time or just messing with ppl's minds yet again?
i hope u're seriously not "playing around" again this time..cos e ppl here are serious abt getting plastic surgery n its gonna be a huge, life changing decision for them.. its really mean to get them in a fluster jus because of a foolish prank..
u claim tat u know loads abt the human anatomy.. but u're only 19, how much can u possibly know? u're in medical school? i'm in a medical course but i wouldn't dare say i know a lot abt the human anatomy..
as many ppl here have suggested, get another evaluation from a reputable surgeon instead of whining here.. plus, u might get sued for posting such comments about the doctor.
furthermore, if u know so much abt anatomy, u shud know tat at 19, yr facial contours are still in the midst of developing and changing.. n tat u shouldn't mess with it.. unless u're doing your eyes or nose.. this i belive, is kinda basic knowledge for someone who claims to be well versed in the subject of human anatomy.
i dun wish to offend or insult u or anything.. but if u really didn't get plastic surgery, dun come in here n confuse ppl.. on the other hand, if yr experience with dr huang is 100%true, i sympathise with u because wat can matter more to a gal than her looks? but go do something constructive abt it instead of complaining abt it endlessly..
[quote]I am neither put to any offense. I understand the freedom of opinions. Smile
Let me make some explainations on my stand. There's always something behind the way people behave and why the reacted the way they do. We are afterall human and we too have feelings . We are not just some pre-programmed robots who reacted deadly with no cause. Nor am i here to convince anyone to believe what i say. This is just to share my experienc with Dr Martin Huang.
Just read what i post here with an open mind, you still have yr entitlement to your opinions.
I think first, it's rather unusual for a person who has yet fully recovered from their surgery to praise their surgeon. Second, If u are really Martin huang's candidate, you can only know how he would have reacted i.e when your situations are abnormal.
You had not any complications arising so far. so even if you provide the details of yr interactions with him here, it serve no purpose to the situation i'm sharing. It's difficult for you to believe what i say as you are not in that position yet. AND that's not a problem here. I'm not here to convince people who is right and who's wrong. I only shared my experience base on what i encountered between him and me.
Initially, I too had a good impression of him. He showed concern on what he had performed on my face 3 weeks post surgery. Unfortunately, When complications arised;i.e when i began to detect problems after a period of time (1 year later), I sent him emails but he never did reply once, so I left telephone messages, and to my disappointment again, no one feedbacked to me. He did not tell his nurses to feed back to me.
What kind of medical intergrity is this? I can understand if they are busy, probably he will ask the nurse to response to me he will feedbackat a later date, but he didn't. His attitude to me just spells "Hack Care" .
I had to go down to the clinic personally to see him about my face issue since I really have no idea what is actually performed on my face. He saw me very late at 8.45 pm (3 hours behind my scheduled appointed with him)
During discussions, He failed to take the effort to make sure I am fine. I wanted a clear idea of what he had actually done on my face, because my situation doesn't line up with his proclaimation since my face is feeling uncomfortable for a period of time. and denied all my concerns and chuck away my problems seeminly wanting me to end my questions and for me to leave . He is obviously changing my concern subject. I am courteous and poilte with him despite my resentment for the mess he did. In other words, i am bearing (tolerating ) with his irresponsibility attitude over my emails and telephone message.
I am also a very bright person in human anatomy and physiology. and From what i can feel on my face, it don't seem to be 100% of what Martin huang had told me. There seem to be more to it.
I think to be accurate You can't just make that statement "he has been observing professional medical ethics and personal integrity" unless you really did work with him as a nurse in his side by side, or would i say long enough for you to understand him, then yr statement will be of an accurate form. Otherwise it's only a blind and surpassing statement without solid proof. You obviously don't know what you are saying there. You are just a candidate of M. Huang's Plastic surgery , and your final outcome is not even determined yet, so what do you really know about him?
Do you know that he had appeared on the newspaper for the death of 1 indian woman around Aug 2001 while performing liposuction? His case is published in The Straits Times. this has been subjected to investigation and there was a court hearing to it. Meaning people took action legally against Dr. Martin huang. Being a plastic surgeon, you can hire the best lawyer since you are earning great deal. and the guess what's the verdict ? Martin huang was found not guilty of her death. And the anaethetist was blamed fully for it instead.
Now this is again very "grey-areas" issues. Had Huang really been innocent for her death or was he also involved but he managed again, to get away free and twist the blame on another party? Acting innocent again?
Not long after, he shifted from his clinic and wisma atria #11 floor to paragon. I guess he must have an uneasy feeling to operate in a room where a person had died there. And i noticed all his nurses changed after he newly located to Paragon.
Let me go explicitly here - Think about it, on that day the nurses working side by side with him on liposuction procedure for the Indian woman will perhaps have an honest opinion of who really cause her death. If you are 1 of the nurse, and u witnessed the truth on that day, will u dare to speak up and expose this terribly rich "murderer" if he's partially responsible for it? You will be facing his super lawyers and despite of standing up to speak truth for itself, there's a possibility you may be sued for "slander" , not just this but also making "false statements" against the doctor. Will you take up this risk and be willing to stand up for the truth? I will.
what do u think? Will Martin have the peace in his heart to let his nurses continue working in his clinic whom witnessed the incident ? Or will the witnessing nurses have the peace within themselves to continue working with him? think about it. these are intetresting stuffs to ponder on.
(a good comparision will be the T. T durai case. Many are sued by him earlier on, even when they are speaking the truth, exposing his incorrect way of managing NKF - SPH media was sued once, and sad to say, not even 1 of NKF staffs dare to expose Mr durai's wrong code of conduct in his profession ethics. )
My objective here is to illustrate the cunning characters in society. There's some similarities between the cunning ; in their way of doing things, being inconspicuous while planning for a way of escape, being defensive and inconsiderate to arising complications, being hostile to exposition of his deeds by discerning parties (Shocked another " hit and run" Surprised ) , choosing the right time to speak in hoping to give a good impression aaaaand......finally, using money to solve their legal case by twisting the black into white (making himself appearing innocent) and white into black (making the innocent party who is speaking the truth suffers)
My experience with him really is emotionaly hurting for me. I can see he is obviously trying to shift the reponsibility and he even got worked up when i asked his nurse to touch my face and feel it, but he raised his voice and commanded the nurse "No!" . Why is he so defensive and refrain his nurse from analysing my face? Most probably he's afraid of the truth being exposed. A nurse will have sufficient knowledge on what's normal and abnormal 4 the body. And i can see that even if they are to suspect anything wrong, they will be just like the mice least their moral ethics are priortized higher than their personal fears, otherwise, they dare not voice out since, Martin huang pays their salary and is the director of Pacific healthcare. at the end of my meeting with him, he told me i'm wasting everyone's time. (I had asked my friends to accompany me to see him)
Who is wasting whose time here? I send emails , telephone messages with no feedback from him. He made me wait for another 3 hours after the scheduled appointed time i am to see him. I think the answer is obvious for those who have brains to think. Rolling Eyes
I had a strong impression that Martin huang 's personality somewhat resemble T. T durai. The Director of NKF. He's filfthy rich and can sue anyone with his best lawyer regardless the issue is correct or accurate about him. People of this nature are often very cunning, they just give the right impression at the right occasion and will be having another image when problems arised which challenge their reputation since they expose their wrong doings/negligience in their code of conduct, their profession work ethics.
I don't think he's that simple minded to do something which reap no benefits to him. It's common for doctor to experiment on patients when they think they have discovered a new technique or procedures ( while on the progress to pioneer something new). I did my facial fats injection in 12 Dec 2000 to be exact. Definitely, the technique of injecting into the eye groves is not performed for anyone yet. Before my surgery, Dr. Martin Huang never injected fats into the orbital groves of anyone's eyes. this procedures is not even common among young people. I am the guinea pig for this. This method is originally suggested by me myself. the reason - I want to firm up my lower eyelids.
I initially wanted to opt for a canthopexy but it seem foreign to Dr Huang at that time when i mention about this technique . Later i came up the idea of using my own fats for area of injections. I spearheaded to him what to use ( fats injection) and the locations. (the area around the groves of the eyes and laughing lines) And I suspected that he inserted something into my cheeks via the intra oral approach to better support the fats injected at the eye groves. After which, this technique is a hit with Martin Huang’s patients.
Before I went to huang, he’s a nobody. After 3 weeks of my surgery, he inevitably noticed fats injection to the sites I requested are significant place (the eye groves) for aging and when fats are introduced there it gives more volume thus making the face appearing more youthful. Wrinkles are lesser at the sites where fats are introduced. He slowly made his way to his fame as I feedback to him more about my face, mentioning what;s wrong with my cheeks via emails , although he never did reply any of my emails, he began to modify his techniques with my email updating. being a very visual person myself, I make my concerns about my cheeks area to him many times, that it’s puffy and what he used for injection to cause this. He inevitably realizes the cheeks to be the key point to enhance a person appearance and to restore youth to an aging face. The cheeks play a crucial role in aesthetic and I realize it since a long time ago. He did inevitably tried the technique which is my original idea on many of his younger patients too adding a little modification here and there to improve the result. And I read Martin Huang “pioneered this fats injection to eye groves”