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Postby Guest » Fri, 19 Nov 2004 4:14 pm

I upped and left Singapore for a working holiday adventure in the UK some time back. I was joined shortly by a friend who was there to furthur his studies. When we met up, he complained about the people being racist while I took the rudeness of a waiter as him having a bad day. I was there by choice and had an open mind. Maybe I made excuses, but it is all down to personal paranoia. Singaporeans can be curt, but they can also be very helpful and friendly. The English have a dry sense of humour than can seem sarcastic. For those who don't like it here, you'll probably not enjoy anything that is 'different' to your culture. It's like the English living their English community in Spain. Until aliens attack us, the human race cannot see past skin and cultures. Shame.

Guest

Postby Guest » Mon, 22 Nov 2004 4:13 am

Oh, except for the Bangladeshis, who are treated even worse than Indians, yeah, I agree the Indians are the most ill-treated humans in Singapore. Or are Bangladeshis considered Indians :? in Singapore?

jpatokal wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dont get me wrong but your are considered Asian - thats a big advantage. Increasingly the resentments are directed towards caucasian as they are complete aliens. And you are not as a minority as us caucasians...So I dont know whether being an Indian is a greater evil than being caucasian.

Bullshit. Please name me one way in which an Indian would get better treatment than a Cauc in Singapore.

Guest

Postby Guest » Mon, 22 Nov 2004 2:32 pm

well well well...maturity at its best ...roll:


USELESS FACT OF THE DAY
Switzerland tops the world in plastic surgery procedures per capita (2.2 people per 1,000).
And the Swiss are beautiful....both inward and outward....hmmmm :wink:

Stamford Raffles

Postby Stamford Raffles » Tue, 23 Nov 2004 5:08 pm

Can all forumites learn to be a little more civilized? I hope everyone knows what "civilized" means...at the very least, I hope so.

Anonymous wrote:Face it...cant u see from the entries in this forum ..your kind are not desired or welcome in this 'speck' of a country. Time u got the hint and get out before u get singled out for special treatment. :lol:

Giggling/Laughing

Postby Giggling/Laughing » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 2:46 am

Hi Marc how are you doing?
You are quite right in your observation; lots of local people are giggling and laughing at cauc. in a rather negative way. That means the intention behind this behaviour seems not really sympathetic towards white people.
Still I would not call it racism. Maybe jealousy or some sort of victorious feel when mocking at white people.
Who cares about this poor and silly behaviour? Not Me.

Giggling/Laughing

Postby Giggling/Laughing » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 2:50 am

Sorry forgotten my point: Marc dont take it personal, Its a form of envy.
If it does pose a problem to you undergo plastic surgery to look like a chinese haha, then your on the save side.
Shit I need to go to bed now...need to wake up at 6.30
Good night / Good morning to everybody.

one nation????

Postby one nation???? » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 6:04 pm

I am an Australian fellow - never stepped on Spore soil. Based on this forum Spore seems to be anything but a multi-racial society except on paper.
People in Spore seem to live beside each other but not together. Why are you guys so full of hatred against each other. Asian against Caucasians, Chinese against Malays, Malays against Chinese, Chinese against Indians...what the hell...
Sorry I might be wrong but the impression I got is that Spore lacks any sort of deep rooted national identity - what keeps that society still together seems its economic success.
What happens if at some point you might face a real economic slump?
You only can respect yourself,if you can respect others.
This country does not seem to respect itself after all its the people who make up this country. God bless all of you.

SILLY INFERIOR CLOWNS

Postby SILLY INFERIOR CLOWNS » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 7:09 pm

Racist attitudes seem to relate to your educational level and your level of self-awareness. Look at LKY, a man of vision and a cosmopolitan self-confident personality. Such a person cant be so narrow-minded and get bogged down with these sort of inferior issues. He respects people and is respected all over the world.
So to all small minds in Spore: You think small coz you feel small as a result you are small and insignificant. What a pity for you to live such a meaningless life which revolves around propping up your self-esteem by taking pains to put other people down (and in this process making a fool and clown out of yourself as everyone realises your inferior motives). To those Sporean: change your life and live up to what it means to be a cosmopolitan Sporean with inner strenght and respect. Stop being a silly inferior clown.

Returned Oz Perm Resident

Postby Returned Oz Perm Resident » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 7:12 pm

one nation???? wrote:I am an Australian fellow - never stepped on Spore soil. Based on this forum Spore seems to be anything but a multi-racial society except on paper.
People in Spore seem to live beside each other but not together. Why are you guys so full of hatred against each other. Asian against Caucasians, Chinese against Malays, Malays against Chinese, Chinese against Indians...what the hell...
Sorry I might be wrong but the impression I got is that Spore lacks any sort of deep rooted national identity - what keeps that society still together seems its economic success.
What happens if at some point you might face a real economic slump?
You only can respect yourself,if you can respect others.
This country does not seem to respect itself after all its the people who make up this country. God bless all of you.


The Singapore identity is still evolving. All said and done the thing going for this country is that the Laws that deal with ostensible discrimination are very draconian and so should be given that many non idigenous races living side by side the indigenous race present a potential racial cauldron. I think if you do look across the spectrum and examine beyond surficial looks, the situation is alot better than you seem to imply here. Meritocracy as whole does work and problems..and there are a few.. are not hidden but aired and solutions worked at. I am not trying to cast a blind eye here But as a returned Australian permanent resident of Singaporean Chinese extraction, I would say that the situation here is somewhat better than in Australia where attempts to understand other races are woefully absent and far and few between. I think the Aboriginal problem there is pitiful and most Aussies wish to ignore it completely as if places like Redfern dont exist. As for the other races, the Chinese Viets etc they are tolerated because of their economic contribution but not much more. There is negligible participation of the minorities in local State and Federal governments. So there you go, the comparison between the 2 countries Singapore and Australia, leaves Australia somewhat more wanting in this area. Thought I would say this to keep things in perspective just in case our Australian friends were to overstate their case :!:

ToRomano

Postby ToRomano » Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:22 pm

Yeah I know, I sympathise with you. I myself have been thru it too.

romano wrote:I am an Italian expat,I felt that looking good is rather a disadvantage. Jealousy and mocking wherever you go - though I am anything but arrogant. I am rather a shy, friendly and humble personality according to my friends. As stupid as it might sound at times I wished to look ugly or just bloody averagy,I envy those people---at least over here in Singap.

Oz Racist?

Is Australian free of racial hatred?

Postby Oz Racist? » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 4:41 pm

one nation???? wrote:I am an Australian fellow - never stepped on Spore soil. Based on this forum Spore seems to be anything but a multi-racial society except on paper.
People in Spore seem to live beside each other but not together. Why are you guys so full of hatred against each other. Asian against Caucasians, Chinese against Malays, Malays against Chinese, Chinese against Indians...what the hell...
Sorry I might be wrong but the impression I got is that Spore lacks any sort of deep rooted national identity - what keeps that society still together seems its economic success.
What happens if at some point you might face a real economic slump?
You only can respect yourself,if you can respect others.
This country does not seem to respect itself after all its the people who make up this country. God bless all of you.

Australian police arrest nine over Aboriginal riot


LATEST NEWS ABOUT THE ABORIGINAL SITUATION IN AUSTRALIA
url from Channel News Asia 27/11 2004 1603 hrshttp://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori ... 25/1/.html


BRISBANE, Australia : Nine people have been arrested over a riot in an Aboriginal community in northern Australia triggered by anger at the death of a local man in police custody, but a top official has warned that violence could flare up again in coming days.

Queensland state police minister Judy Spence said she expected those arrested to face charges of destroying public property and riotous behaviour, but would not say if they could face charges of attempted murder.



A crowd of around 300 Aboriginals rioted on outlying Palm Island on Friday, burning the community's police station and courthouse in anger over the death of popular Aborigine Cameron Doomadgee, 36.

The riot was triggered by the release of Doomadgee's autopsy results which showed he had broken ribs and died from a punctured lung in the police watchhouse earlier this month.

Police said Doomadgee's injuries were the result of a scuffle with police when he was being taken from a prison van and had punched an officer in the head.

It is the second major riot in an Aboriginal community this year, following one in February in Sydney's Aboriginal suburb of Redfern, also triggered by the controversial death of a young Aboriginal.

Using emergency powers, police late Friday sent in around 80 heavily armed officers to Palm Island, taking control of the airport, school and hospital while government officials, teachers and some local police were evacuated.

Reports from the island Saturday said calm had returned.

Petrol bombs were thrown at police barracks and other buildings during the unrest and Spence said there was concern among police about the potential for more "flare-ups".

"They consider the next 24 to 36 hours on Palm Island as very important," Spence said.

Queensland's state police commissioner Bob Atkinson said there were indications the violence was planned.

"We believe that the water was turned off so there was an inability to fight the fire and as well there were road blocks put across the road to the airport, including, I understand, a stolen council truck," Atkinson told ABC radio.

Spence said the nine arrested were being held in the neighbouring mainland city of Townsville and would appear in a court there on Monday.

State premier Peter Beattie assured Palm Island residents that the state's Crime and Misconduct Commission would fully investigate the death but criticised Aboriginal leaders for giving poor leadership.

Aboriginal leaders Saturday demanded they be consulted about any investigation into Doomadgee's death.

"If criminal charges can be supported then the people responsible must be charged, same as any other member of the community," Aboriginal leader Sam Watson said.

Palm Island has had a troubled history, earning the dubious title of the most violent place on earth outside a combat zone in the 1998 Guinness Book of Records.

nosy

Postby nosy » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:40 pm

Your brain seems flatter than your nose. Nobody suggested we dont have these sort of problems in Aussieland. But the forums issue here is about Spore!!!!??? Make suggestions for problem solving instead of desperately pointing fingers.
That wont fix Spores neither Australias problems.

So Relax and dont be so sensitive like a flower.

Agree 100%. Period.

Postby Agree 100%. Period. » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:44 pm

Racist attitudes seem to relate to your educational level and your level of self-awareness. Look at LKY, a man of vision and a cosmopolitan self-confident personality. Such a person cant be so narrow-minded and get bogged down with these sort of inferior issues. He respects people and is respected all over the world.
So to all small minds in Spore: You think small coz you feel small as a result you are small and insignificant. What a pity for you to live such a meaningless life which revolves around propping up your self-esteem by taking pains to put other people down (and in this process making a fool and clown out of yourself as everyone realises your inferior motives). To those Sporean: change your life and live up to what it means to be a cosmopolitan Sporean with inner strenght and respect. Stop being a silly inferior clown.[/quote]

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Postby jpatokal » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:46 pm

Stamford Raffles wrote:Can all forumites learn to be a little more civilized? I hope everyone knows what "civilized" means...at the very least, I hope so.

A load of off-topic rubbish (about 3 pages worth) has been carted off to Rubbish. Remember folks, this thread is supposed to be about Singaporeans and Caucasians (or at least expats), not the respective merits of your favorite race.

Italo

Postby Italo » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:49 pm

ToRomano wrote:Yeah I know, I sympathise with you. I myself have been thru it too.

romano wrote:I am an Italian expat,I felt that looking good is rather a disadvantage. Jealousy and mocking wherever you go - though I am anything but arrogant. I am rather a shy, friendly and humble personality according to my friends. As stupid as it might sound at times I wished to look ugly or just bloody averagy,I envy those people---at least over here in Singap.


Hey Romano - my goodness be proud of your looks. The gals (Chinese or Malays) die for people like you :D :D :D :D . You are a lucky fellow, enjoy it OK??????????????????????????????????????


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