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by ecureilx » Mon, 18 Sep 2017 3:36 pm
awesomium wrote:Hi Guys,
I've been reading up on various posts related to PR applications and been impressed with the quality of answers so thought about posting my situation. At the outset, do excuse my long rambling. Appreciate any constructive feedback.
Starting out with the sticking point. I hold a Pakistani nationality. I've a Bachelor in Computer Science from a Pakistani University. I arrived in Singapore in 2008 and joined a British investment bank as a programmer. I was convinced I had made the right decision by moving to Singapore despite getting an H1B work visa for USA in the same year. This was due to the quality of people I was able to work with here and a culture of meritocracy all around in Singapore. I just fell in love with Singapore and its value system! I worked in that bank from 2008-2014. Over the years, I developed a reverence for finance and investment banking. To add on, Singapore’s working culture instilled in me an aspiration to better myself and I realized I wanted to develop a niche for myself by moving into Front Office Quantitative Finance. For that I switched roles and joined another US based investment bank in their Front Office business as a programmer. This time it was much more quantitative. At the same time spent the bulk of my free time in libraries studying for a financial engineering course which I've completed. All this effort came to fruition and I was offered a Quantitative Developer role in another bank which I've recently joined.
This was a bit about my journey in the last almost 10 years. A few related facts:
- Have applied for PR 4 or 5 times before (sorry cannot remember exactly) with the first application in 2012 and rejected each time.
- Married with two kids 3 and 4 years old both born in Singapore
- My wife is a doctor but she is not practicing in Singapore as she doesn't have requisite number of years of experience
- Current salary is SGD 175K
- I have no hesitation in admitting that in balance I've taken more from Singapore than given back hence have started worked in a charitable organization lately when I can find time from work and study (soup kitchen although admittedly not for too long) .
- Had volunteered in 2013 for a charitable organization through their convention process which was attended by the primer minister
- Age 37 years
Can't think of anything else so I'll stop here. Appreciate your feedback on what are my chances and any relevant statistics.
Your post sounds very touching ..
but, apply, don't hope for best news.
Statistics ? Like how many of what race/nationality applied and the relevant success rate ?
Nope, not available. Only what's known by anecdotal evidence.
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by awesomium » Mon, 18 Sep 2017 4:27 pm
Thanks ecureilx, I do have an appointment with the ICA this week. Perhaps a tireness has set in after applying so many times and I was wondering if this is an exercise in futility
I'll apply once again now that I've changed a job accompanied with change in salary. Keeping my fingers crossed as obviously there are people much more qualified than me.
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by BBCDoc » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 8:26 am
Awesomium,
There will always be someone more qualified than you, no matter what year you apply until there is an exodus or extinction event.
Just go for it, you have more to gain than to lose...
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by ecureilx » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:30 am
BBCDoc wrote:Awesomium,
There will always be someone more qualified than you, no matter what year you apply until there is an exodus or extinction event.
Just go for it, you have more to gain than to lose...
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by awesomium » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 1:17 pm
ecureilx wrote:BBCDoc wrote:Awesomium,
There will always be someone more qualified than you, no matter what year you apply until there is an exodus or extinction event.
Just go for it, you have more to gain than to lose...
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+1

understood. Anyone venture to put a percentage chance of success/failure on my application. Also if my application fails, should I contact ICA to get some feedbacK or they don't entertain any such calls?
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by brenric » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 3:45 pm
Can i check with you guys.
If my husband is not joining me for my application.Do i need to fill in his particulars.Thank you all for your input.
Thank you.
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by ecureilx » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 7:58 pm
brenric wrote:Can i check with you guys.
If my husband is not joining me for my application.Do i need to fill in his particulars.Thank you all for your input.
Thank you.
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understood. Anyone venture to put a percentage chance of success/failure on my application. Also if my application fails, should I contact ICA to get some feedbacK or they don't entertain any such calls?
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How about 9.472500250% of success?
Oh you should know by now ICA NEVER gives reasons, even if the applicant is spouse or child of a citizen.
Need I say more?
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by awesomium » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 8:07 pm
ecureilx wrote:brenric wrote:Can i check with you guys.
If my husband is not joining me for my application.Do i need to fill in his particulars.Thank you all for your input.
Thank you.
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understood. Anyone venture to put a percentage chance of success/failure on my application. Also if my application fails, should I contact ICA to get some feedbacK or they don't entertain any such calls?
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How about 9.472500250% of success?
Oh you should know by now ICA NEVER gives reasons, even if the applicant is spouse or child of a citizen.
Need I say more?
So I applied today. Will return when I get a reply on my application.
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by awesomium » Tue, 19 Sep 2017 8:08 pm
ecureilx wrote:brenric wrote:Can i check with you guys.
If my husband is not joining me for my application.Do i need to fill in his particulars.Thank you all for your input.
Thank you.
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Yes
awesomium wrote:

understood. Anyone venture to put a percentage chance of success/failure on my application. Also if my application fails, should I contact ICA to get some feedbacK or they don't entertain any such calls?
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How about 9.472500250% of success?
Oh you should know by now ICA NEVER gives reasons, even if the applicant is spouse or child of a citizen.
Need I say more?
So I applied today. Will return when I get a reply on my application.
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by BBCDoc » Wed, 20 Sep 2017 8:09 am
[quote="awesomium"]

understood. Anyone venture to put a percentage chance of success/failure on my application. Also if my application fails, should I contact ICA to get some feedbacK or they don't entertain any such calls?
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Incidentally, if you play roulette at the casino and bet on red or black, your odds of success are 47.4% - 48.6%.
Do you play roulette?
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