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Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby J-the traveler » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 5:04 pm

Greetings All,

I am seeking your advice and knowledge on getting the SPR for my retired parents.

son married with 2 young kids
age: 41
Nationality: converted singaporean at age 35 formerly malaysian chinese
Educational: NTU
Ocupation: IT industry
Income: $6800 permonth and wife is an self-employed.

Daughter married with 1 young kid
Age:37
Nationality: converted singaporean at age 31
Educational: NTU 
Occupation:IT industry 
Income:$ 6700 per month and husband earning $4000


Aged parents : 68 and 72, both retired.
Status in singapore: 5 yrs LTVP. 

They only come to singapore every second months for 2 weeks to visit their only son and daughter. what are the chances for them to get SPR at this age? What are other things that ICA will looking/required under this category besides the income of sponsor? Thanks
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Re: PR application rejected 4th time

Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 5:09 pm

J-the traveler wrote:Greetings All,

I am seeking your advice and knowledge on getting the SPR for my aged parents.

son married with 2 young kids
age: 41
Nationality: converted singaporean at age 35 formerly malaysian chinese
Educational: NTU
Ocupation: IT industry
Income: $6800 permonth and wife is not working.


Daughter married with 1 young kid
Age:37
Nationality: converted singaporean at age 31
Educational: NTU 
Occupation:IT industry 
Income:$ 6700 per month and husband earning $4000


Aged parents. 68 and 72. Currently, are holding a 5 yrs LTVP. 

They come to singapore every second months for 2 weeks to visit their only son and daughter.

what is the chances for them to get SPR at this age? Any special category for aged parents to apply SPR?
Thanks


They are not eligible first of all.

PR for Aged Parents of a SC is only allowed

https://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150

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Re: PR application rejected 4th time

Postby J-the traveler » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 9:35 pm

Hi singaporeflyer,

Both son and daughter are singapore citizens. They were formerly malaysian chinese.

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:46 pm

I can't really see it happening. The gahmen seems happy to let SC use LTVP in this case indefinitely.
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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:33 pm

Why should they give PR to aging parents of Singapore PRs? If they are aging that means you are probably wanting to bring them here because of the medical facilities and that having PR would help subsidize those costs. They government understands that so will not usually consider it but as noted previously, would only consider the LTVP route if they considered anything at all other than a bog standard SVP.

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby J-the traveler » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:50 pm

Hi all,

Thank you for all the replying to my post. Do you think if we can show the parents are financial capable to support themselves? EPF, cash, houses in Malaysia? In actually fact, ours parents have more saving then we do.

For the SC apply spr for aged parents, why this category does exist if government does not want converted Singapore to apply SPR for their aged parents? Or same protocol, they only give spr To aged parents if they can contribute to the Singapore economy. Like how government access the child when applied their PR then SC.

I wonder if Any of you heard any successful cases under this category?

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby Barnsley » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 1:50 am

J-the traveler wrote:Hi all,

Thank you for all the replying to my post. Do you think if we can show the parents are financial capable to support themselves? EPF, cash, houses in Malaysia? In actually fact, ours parents have more saving then we do.

For the SC apply spr for aged parents, why this category does exist if government does not want converted Singapore to apply SPR for their aged parents? Or same protocol, they only give spr To aged parents if they can contribute to the Singapore economy. Like how government access the child when applied their PR then SC.

I wonder if Any of you heard any successful cases under this category?


Sounds like a good life in Malaysia, what do you want them to have Singapore PR for?
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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 7:22 am

While the category of PR for aged parents of SC does exist I doubt that the parents of former Malaysians will fall into that category and I know of no one who has ever gotten PR on that basis but I do know some former PRC citizens are planning to apply for it - and I suspect for that reason the floodgates will not open. I personally can't see what your concern is if they have LTVP? Are you concerned they may not get a LTVP renewal?
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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby J-the traveler » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 8:31 am

Hi PNGNK,

You are spot on the urge to apply SPR for our Aged parents. LTVP will requires to have medical check up every 5 years if we wish to get it renewal. Thing change people grow older we never thought of applying them SPR when we were younger. We cannot guarantee one will has healthy body especially when people getting older. What if they reject our LTVP in the near future?

With SPR status, it will give them assurance and sense of belonging (归属感) to live in singapore.

We will going forward and give it a shot to apply SPR for our Aged parents. Never try never know [-o<

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 8:45 am

J-the traveler wrote:What if they reject our LTVP in the near future?


Sad to say, informally every other person knows Singapore is trimming excess fat, including old folks who want to rest and relax in SG :(

I know a Malaysian, whos mother has been here on LTVP for a long time, very long time, and every PR application was rejected.

Now her LTVP was been trimmed from 5 years to 2 years, and she can't go to Malaysia as her only Son is in SG :( Her initial LTVP was 10 Years if I recall correctly

And another, I did mention this, a Foreigner who has lived almost all his life in SG, on PR.

REP Refused when he reached 65 Years, even though he had like a dozen awards from Ministries and this and that. Because - he is old, even though he was having his pension, not a burden to society, contributing to society, and had a steady stream of income as well. Still refused.

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 9:25 am

Barnsley wrote:
J-the traveler wrote:Hi all,

Thank you for all the replying to my post. Do you think if we can show the parents are financial capable to support themselves? EPF, cash, houses in Malaysia? In actually fact, ours parents have more saving then we do.

For the SC apply spr for aged parents, why this category does exist if government does not want converted Singapore to apply SPR for their aged parents? Or same protocol, they only give spr To aged parents if they can contribute to the Singapore economy. Like how government access the child when applied their PR then SC.

I wonder if Any of you heard any successful cases under this category?


Sounds like a good life in Malaysia, what do you want them to have Singapore PR for?


A lot of non bumi Malaysians feel insecure in Malaysia. I can understand that.
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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby J-the traveler » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 9:54 am

We will shout at all of you if we managed to get SPR for aged parents (just kidding) or shout at gahmen like hell if got rejected (most likely)
It seems to me the chances is very slim 00000000000.1 or even none?

Thank you for the information and cases sharing by all of you. Now, It made me think of back up plan for our own. Another 10 to 15 years we will might in the list and be abandoned by gahmen?

I bet some of you either
1) ex SPR and live in overseas
2)ex singaporean and now live in overseas
3) singaporean live in overseas

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby bcheng74 » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:25 am

J-the traveler wrote:Hi PNGNK,

You are spot on the urge to apply SPR for our Aged parents. LTVP will requires to have medical check up every 5 years if we wish to get it renewal. Thing change people grow older we never thought of applying them SPR when we were younger. We cannot guarantee one will has healthy body especially when people getting older. What if they reject our LTVP in the near future?

With SPR status, it will give them assurance and sense of belonging (归属感) to live in singapore.

We will going forward and give it a shot to apply SPR for our Aged parents. Never try never know [-o<


If your parents face difficulty in getting LTVP, then they will find it even more difficult to get PR. You can try, but I will be surprised if ICA refuses LTVP but approves PR for aged parents.



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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:46 am

J-the traveler wrote:We will shout at all of you if we managed to get SPR for aged parents (just kidding) or shout at gahmen like hell if got rejected (most likely)
It seems to me the chances is very slim 00000000000.1 or even none?

Thank you for the information and cases sharing by all of you. Now, It made me think of back up plan for our own. Another 10 to 15 years we will might in the list and be abandoned by gahmen?

I bet some of you either
1) ex SPR and live in overseas
2)ex singaporean and now live in overseas
3) singaporean live in overseas


No comment but yes you should have a plan. There's a reason a lot of MY migrate to Australia (they can sponsor their parents with a bond for medical care).
I have gay, black, Asian friends and then JR8.

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Re: Getting the SPR for my retired parents

Postby singaporeflyer » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:50 am

J-the traveler wrote:Hi PNGNK,

LTVP will requires to have medical check up every 5 years if we wish to get it renewal. We cannot guarantee one will has healthy body especially when people getting older.


They check for TB and HIV only. How do you feel that age will have an impact on these tests?


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