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LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby Tusculum » Mon, 24 Jul 2017 8:17 pm

I'm a New Zealand citizen with Australian residency in the process of negotiating a full time employment position in Singapore. Initial advice suggests that gaining a LTVP for my same sex male partner (an Australian citizen) is unlikely, despite our relationship status being formally recognised by documentation issued by the Australian Government (alternatively we could get married in NZ). Before considering next options - I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has been successful in gaining a LTVP in this situation?

Although cumbersome there is the option to leave every 90 days on a visitor visa, however does Immigration start to question repeat entries over time? Again thanks to anyone who has any useful insights.

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:47 pm

Tusculum wrote:I'm a New Zealand citizen with Australian residency in the process of negotiating a full time employment position in Singapore. Initial advice suggests that gaining a LTVP for my same sex male partner (an Australian citizen) is unlikely, despite our relationship status being formally recognised by documentation issued by the Australian Government (alternatively we could get married in NZ). Before considering next options - I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has been successful in gaining a LTVP in this situation?

Although cumbersome there is the option to leave every 90 days on a visitor visa, however does Immigration start to question repeat entries over time? Again thanks to anyone who has any useful insights.


Visa runs won't work. You may succeed getting a DP (dependant's pass) if you are married or have documentation from your HOME country. LTVP almost certainly is not the way forward.
I have gay, black, Asian friends and then JR8.

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:52 pm

If you partnership is recognized/documented by Australia in writing and you company is willing to sponsor your partner it is possible to get a LTVP. You will not get a DP nor an LTVP+ however. It's not a guarantee that even with the above that you will be successful, but there have been instances in the past where this has been successful (granted more often with female same-sex unions than with males). But before you even start, ensure you have notorized documentation and an employer who is willing to sponsor (you cannot sponsor in this case). Good luck. You are going to need it.

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby bgd » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:58 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Visa runs won't work. You may succeed getting a DP (dependant's pass) if you are married or have documentation from your HOME country. LTVP almost certainly is not the way forward.


Does Sg recognize same sex marriages (from abroad)? I would be surprised given the conservatism here, but maybe I've missed it?

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 25 Jul 2017 1:17 pm

bgd wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
Visa runs won't work. You may succeed getting a DP (dependant's pass) if you are married or have documentation from your HOME country. LTVP almost certainly is not the way forward.


Does Sg recognize same sex marriages (from abroad)? I would be surprised given the conservatism here, but maybe I've missed it?


Yes. It has happened. It's normally via a DP though, not a LTVP (as per your post above). The relationship is that of a married dependent. As you DID mention you need company sponsorship which is via DP (not an LTVP).
I have gay, black, Asian friends and then JR8.

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby Barnsley » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 3:18 pm

CSrob wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
Tusculum wrote:I'm a New Zealand citizen with Australian residency in the process of negotiating a full time employment position in Singapore. Initial advice suggests that gaining a LTVP for my same sex male partner (an Australian citizen) is unlikely, despite our relationship status being formally recognised by documentation issued by the Australian Government (alternatively we could get married in NZ). Before considering next options - I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has been successful in gaining a LTVP in this situation?

Although cumbersome there is the option to leave every 90 days on a visitor visa, however does Immigration start to question repeat entries over time? Again thanks to anyone who has any useful insights.


Visa runs won't work. You may succeed getting a DP (dependant's pass) if you are married or have documentation from your HOME country. LTVP almost certainly is not the way forward.


Why would visa runs not work?


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Re: LTVP eligibility for same sex spouse

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 26 Jul 2017 3:24 pm

CSrob wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
Tusculum wrote:I'm a New Zealand citizen with Australian residency in the process of negotiating a full time employment position in Singapore. Initial advice suggests that gaining a LTVP for my same sex male partner (an Australian citizen) is unlikely, despite our relationship status being formally recognised by documentation issued by the Australian Government (alternatively we could get married in NZ). Before considering next options - I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has been successful in gaining a LTVP in this situation?

Although cumbersome there is the option to leave every 90 days on a visitor visa, however does Immigration start to question repeat entries over time? Again thanks to anyone who has any useful insights.


Visa runs won't work. You may succeed getting a DP (dependant's pass) if you are married or have documentation from your HOME country. LTVP almost certainly is not the way forward.


Why would visa runs not work?


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Data analytics. I don't know of anyone doing them successfully now unless you think a visa run is going back to Australia for a month and choosing a different location to go on to. An Aussie friend rotates MY, the PI and Thailand and Perth with Singapore every month or so. Uses different entry and exit points. Stays on the move with friends in different cities to save cost but it's not what you want I think. He's retired and just likes dipping his wick in different women in different places.
I have gay, black, Asian friends and then JR8.


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