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What to expect?
What to expect?
Hi people of Singapre!
I've been reading lots of threads on this amazing forum lately which were really helpful and informative, and i'd appreciate your help with a few enquiries I didn't couldn't find an answer for them on the forum.
1- How does the MoM actually contact the universities? I'm Egyptian and graduated from an Egyptian university, and ehmm we're kinda not a digital nation! Unless it's a business company/email it will go unnoticed and I think this might be the reason my EP application is still pending, and I started to think .. What if my university doesn't answer! Do they send an email .. An actual mail to the university or what, so I may go to my university and ask for help, but I gotta know which department should I contact.
I got an offer from a multinational in Singapore and I was supposed to move by June, but didn't get the IPA yet.
2- I got a background check from the employer, security check and they contacted all my previous employers, does that help with the EP or they don't submit that?
3- I'm well traveled -as a tourist- and I'm always 'the lucky one' who's chosen for random checks at the airports, not to mention the discrimination at most of the embassies specially the european ones "Egyptian passport, muslim name and looks" .. I understand what is going on in the world right now .. No complaints ..
But .. Should I worry about this in Singapore? Would that affect my EP application or my life there if I move to Singapore 'hopefully'? Specially that i'm not really religious so i'm just getting the worst of both worlds lol
I understand that there is a good percentage of muslims in Singapore, but a middleeastern muslim is another thing when it comes to papers .. From my experience.
Thank you for your patience reading this and I wish you a great day!
Mahmoud
I've been reading lots of threads on this amazing forum lately which were really helpful and informative, and i'd appreciate your help with a few enquiries I didn't couldn't find an answer for them on the forum.
1- How does the MoM actually contact the universities? I'm Egyptian and graduated from an Egyptian university, and ehmm we're kinda not a digital nation! Unless it's a business company/email it will go unnoticed and I think this might be the reason my EP application is still pending, and I started to think .. What if my university doesn't answer! Do they send an email .. An actual mail to the university or what, so I may go to my university and ask for help, but I gotta know which department should I contact.
I got an offer from a multinational in Singapore and I was supposed to move by June, but didn't get the IPA yet.
2- I got a background check from the employer, security check and they contacted all my previous employers, does that help with the EP or they don't submit that?
3- I'm well traveled -as a tourist- and I'm always 'the lucky one' who's chosen for random checks at the airports, not to mention the discrimination at most of the embassies specially the european ones "Egyptian passport, muslim name and looks" .. I understand what is going on in the world right now .. No complaints ..
But .. Should I worry about this in Singapore? Would that affect my EP application or my life there if I move to Singapore 'hopefully'? Specially that i'm not really religious so i'm just getting the worst of both worlds lol
I understand that there is a good percentage of muslims in Singapore, but a middleeastern muslim is another thing when it comes to papers .. From my experience.
Thank you for your patience reading this and I wish you a great day!
Mahmoud
Last edited by Mahmoud on Tue, 06 Jun 2017 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: What to expect?
1) If I am not mistaken somebody mentioned earlier the SG gov does it with the use of some vetting agencies, meaning they are country specific so they are, in your in Egypt. Not sure what happens if the uni is not willing to cooperate. My guess would be someone has to made a decision whether give you some credit based on general profile or not.Mahmoud wrote:Hi people of Singapre!
I've been reading lots of threads on this amazing forum lately which were really helpful and informative, and i'd appreciate your help with a few enquiries I didn't couldn't find an answer for them on the forum.
1- How does the MoM actually contact the universities? I'm Egyptian and graduated from an Egyptian university, and ehmm we're kinda not a digital nation! Unless it's a business company/email it will go unnoticed and I think this might be the reason my EP application is still pending, and I started to think .. What if my university doesn't answer! Do they send an email .. An actual mail to the university or what, so I may go to my university and ask for help, but I gotta know which department should I contact.
I got an offer from a multinational in Singapore and I was supposed to move by June, but didn't get the IPA yet.
2- I got a background check from the employer, security check and they contacted all my previous employers, does that help with the EP or they don't submit that?
3- I'm well traveled -as a tourist- and I'm always 'the lucky one' who's chosen for random check at the airports, not to mention the discrimation at most of the embassies specially the european ones "Egyptian passport, muslim name and looks" .. I understand what is going on in the world right now .. No complaints ..
But .. Should I worry about this in Singapore? Would that affect my EP application or my life there if I move to Singapore 'hopefully'? Specially that i'm not really religious so i'm just getting the worst of both worlds lol
I understand that there is a good percentage of muslims in Singapore, but a middleeastern muslim is another thing when it comes to papers .. From my experience.
Thank you for your patience reading this and I wish you a great day!
Mahmoud
2) I don't think MoM uses such data and I don't think they care what the company did in that respect. If they want to be sure, they will rely on their ow checks.
3) The local gov does probably some background check on whether you may have something to do with the extremism, but being a Muslim is surely not considered negative so don't worry.
Re: What to expect?
Thank you so much! Well if they use an Egyptian or a middle eastern vetting agency they would definitely know how to handle this. Wish me good luck!x9200 wrote:1) If I am not mistaken somebody mentioned earlier the SG gov does it with the use of some vetting agencies, meaning they are country specific so they are, in your in Egypt. Not sure what happens if the uni is not willing to cooperate. My guess would be someone has to made a decision whether give you some credit based on general profile or not.Mahmoud wrote:Hi people of Singapre!
I've been reading lots of threads on this amazing forum lately which were really helpful and informative, and i'd appreciate your help with a few enquiries I didn't couldn't find an answer for them on the forum.
1- How does the MoM actually contact the universities? I'm Egyptian and graduated from an Egyptian university, and ehmm we're kinda not a digital nation! Unless it's a business company/email it will go unnoticed and I think this might be the reason my EP application is still pending, and I started to think .. What if my university doesn't answer! Do they send an email .. An actual mail to the university or what, so I may go to my university and ask for help, but I gotta know which department should I contact.
I got an offer from a multinational in Singapore and I was supposed to move by June, but didn't get the IPA yet.
2- I got a background check from the employer, security check and they contacted all my previous employers, does that help with the EP or they don't submit that?
3- I'm well traveled -as a tourist- and I'm always 'the lucky one' who's chosen for random check at the airports, not to mention the discrimation at most of the embassies specially the european ones "Egyptian passport, muslim name and looks" .. I understand what is going on in the world right now .. No complaints ..
But .. Should I worry about this in Singapore? Would that affect my EP application or my life there if I move to Singapore 'hopefully'? Specially that i'm not really religious so i'm just getting the worst of both worlds lol
I understand that there is a good percentage of muslims in Singapore, but a middleeastern muslim is another thing when it comes to papers .. From my experience.
Thank you for your patience reading this and I wish you a great day!
Mahmoud
2) I don't think MoM uses such data and I don't think they care what the company did in that respect. If they want to be sure, they will rely on their ow checks.
3) The local gov does probably some background check on whether you may have something to do with the extremism, but being a Muslim is surely not considered negative so don't worry.
Have a great day.
Re: What to expect?
Singapore has partner agencies who do the vetting. And they don't need to be told how to handle thingsMahmoud wrote: Thank you so much! Well if they use an Egyptian or a middle eastern vetting agency they would definitely know how to handle this. Wish me good luck!
Have a great day.

your employer's checks don't matter to MOM. And you can't feed MOM informationm
Fret not much.
Re: What to expect?
Hope for the best! Thank you. *still pending*ecureilx wrote:Singapore has partner agencies who do the vetting. And they don't need to be told how to handle thingsMahmoud wrote: Thank you so much! Well if they use an Egyptian or a middle eastern vetting agency they would definitely know how to handle this. Wish me good luck!
Have a great day.
your employer's checks don't matter to MOM. And you can't feed MOM informationm
Fret not much.
Re: What to expect?
Hello everyone!
Today the status of the application changed from "pending input from vetting agencies, outcome is expected within two months" to just "pending". Does that mean anything?
Today the status of the application changed from "pending input from vetting agencies, outcome is expected within two months" to just "pending". Does that mean anything?
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Re: What to expect?
It means they have the data and now they are debating the merits of said data.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
Re: What to expect?
Thank you.sundaymorningstaple wrote:It means they have the data and now they are debating the merits of said data.
Hopefully will get the outcome soon.
Re: What to expect?
Unfortunately my application was rejected!
I just don't know why, all the information and documents I presented were true and I already had a background check that included university degree, professional background and legal/security background by my employer by independant vetting agency before they applied for me and it went fine!
My employer is a very big multinational, my basic salary is 5K and i'm an Arabic Digital Content Specialist from Egypt with 6 years of experience, 29 years old, never had any legal problems or any problems related to countries' entry. MOM says there was something wrong with my background check but didn't state what it was exactly.
I'm really frustrated, is it because of what is happening in the world and middle easterns and north africans are preferrably avoided? Because that's the situation in many countries.
I just don't know why, all the information and documents I presented were true and I already had a background check that included university degree, professional background and legal/security background by my employer by independant vetting agency before they applied for me and it went fine!
My employer is a very big multinational, my basic salary is 5K and i'm an Arabic Digital Content Specialist from Egypt with 6 years of experience, 29 years old, never had any legal problems or any problems related to countries' entry. MOM says there was something wrong with my background check but didn't state what it was exactly.
I'm really frustrated, is it because of what is happening in the world and middle easterns and north africans are preferrably avoided? Because that's the situation in many countries.
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Re: What to expect?
Always a distinct possibility. But sadly, we don't really know what goes on in the inner working of either ICA or MOM and both tend to keep their cards close to their chest. You have to admit though, most of those countries give other countries a good reason to be wary.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
Re: What to expect?
Not true re: Singapore.Mahmoud wrote: I'm really frustrated, is it because of what is happening in the world and middle easterns and north africans are preferrably avoided?.
One of my clients in Singapore is from North Africa, and they have strong "home" presence here.
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