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Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Thu, 20 Apr 2017 9:27 pm

I would like to ask, currently my husband is holding ltvp+ sponsored by me and i'm a Singapore citizen. He's working in Singapore now with a LOC.

If let's say i were to get divorce with him, will he need to return back to the country he came from? Because i am still depending on part of his salary and we have 2 young kids together. Can someone please advise me, thank u.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:30 pm

If you divorce him, then you could no longer sponsor his ltvp+ which means he could not work, unless his employer were to be able to get a work permit for him. If the employer cannot get a work permit then he will need to leave the country.

Even if he were to get a work permit, you would have no claim on his salary unless you were able to obtain child support as part of the divorce decree.

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:39 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:If you divorce him, then you could no longer sponsor his ltvp+ which means he could not work, unless his employer were to be able to get a work permit for him. If the employer cannot get a work permit then he will need to leave the country.

Even if he were to get a work permit, you would have no claim on his salary unless you were able to obtain child support as part of the divorce decree.


What if he's willing to give part of his salary to me? Cause all along he's still letting me take half of his salary through our shared bank account.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 6:08 am

jlhytx wrote:What if he's willing to give part of his salary to me? Cause all along he's still letting me take half of his salary through our shared bank account.


Well, if he's willing to give part of his salary to you, then the man has integrity... he brought the children into the world, and he is also responsible for them.

Two things then:

a) If he's willing to voluntarily to give you money, it doesn't matter much where he works... he sends a wire transfer to you.

b) People without a legal obligation to pay do change their minds, and if he decides to stop paying you, you will have no recourse without a legal document. Even if you have a legal document and he can't get a work permit and must leave the country, your divorce degree specifying child support is much more difficult to enforce in another country.

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 6:38 am

Strong Eagle wrote:Well, if he's willing to give part of his salary to you, then the man has integrity... he brought the children into the world, and he is also responsible for them.

Two things then:

a) If he's willing to voluntarily to give you money, it doesn't matter much where he works... he sends a wire transfer to you.

b) People without a legal obligation to pay do change their minds, and if he decides to stop paying you, you will have no recourse without a legal document. Even if you have a legal document and he can't get a work permit and must leave the country, your divorce degree specifying child support is much more difficult to enforce in another country.


Yup but the problem is he told me if he were to work in other country, the salary he will be getting is so much different from here due to the currency rate. And i do know that he can change his mind anytime.

Currently we are thinking of going through separation first though i know the outcome will be the same. But i really do need the legal documents in order to apply for an flat.

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby x9200 » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 8:15 am

The most important thing would be to determine if your husband has any chances to get an independent pass.

What is his education, degree, experience / seniority level and country of origin?

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 9:37 am

x9200 wrote:The most important thing would be to determine if your husband has any chances to get an independent pass.

What is his education, degree, experience / seniority level and country of origin?


Nope i doubt that he got any chances for an dependent pass. He studied till higher secondary if i'm not wrong. Been working in Singapore since 2007. He's from China.

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Postby PNGMK » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 9:59 am

I have a suggestion. It's not moral but it's legal.

Explain to your husband that you cannot divorce. Help him progress through PR and try to get his Singapore citizenship even. Once he has that then divorce. Otherwise the reality is he will not be in the children's life and you will be a pauper. The only time you really need to divorce is when someone wants to remarry. If that is not the case; stay together for the children's sake.
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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby x9200 » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:33 am

jlhytx wrote:
x9200 wrote:The most important thing would be to determine if your husband has any chances to get an independent pass.

What is his education, degree, experience / seniority level and country of origin?


Nope i doubt that he got any chances for an dependent pass. He studied till higher secondary if i'm not wrong. Been working in Singapore since 2007. He's from China.

An INdependent pass: i.e EP, but yep, without a degree or significant seniority/experience/niche profession = no chance.
Work Permit on the other hand is typically for low wedge employees and I think there are some further nationality based limitations - is this the level he contributes?

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:16 am

PNGMK wrote:I have a suggestion. It's not moral but it's legal.

Explain to your husband that you cannot divorce. Help him progress through PR and try to get his Singapore citizenship even. Once he has that then divorce. Otherwise the reality is he will not be in the children's life and you will be a pauper. The only time you really need to divorce is when someone wants to remarry. If that is not the case; stay together for the children's sake.


Tbh i've tried applying PR for him few times already when we were still together but every time it's unsuccessful.

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:18 am

x9200 wrote:An INdependent pass: i.e EP, but yep, without a degree or significant seniority/experience/niche profession = no chance.
Work Permit on the other hand is typically for low wedge employees and I think there are some further nationality based limitations - is this the level he contributes?


Sorry i don't really get what u mean?

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby x9200 » Fri, 21 Apr 2017 3:44 pm

What I mean, if your husband does not qualify for an Employment Pass (EP) nor S-pass (assuming he doesn't have a diploma), the only option he has to stay and work in SG is probably Work Permit (WP). The WP is typically for low paid jobs and also within some defined sectors.
In other words, there may be no way for him to stay and work in SG or it would simply make no sense with the salary he would receive.

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby PNGMK » Sat, 22 Apr 2017 6:23 pm

jlhytx why are you considering divorce or separation? Maybe try to fix the marriage. Breaking it will cause a of lot pain and hardship.
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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby The Ref » Wed, 26 Apr 2017 9:20 am

I discussed this with MOM very recently.
Basically the DP he is on remains valid and he can continue to work on the LOC until it expires. Once it expires he cannot get another DP. Also it is possible to renew the DP while divorce is ongoing, therefore if you time it right it gives you some time to sort things out. The problem being if money is part of the argument that doesn't get sorted out until the very last thing so helping him out may end up costing you more

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Re: Troubled. Need advice badly.

Postby jlhytx » Thu, 04 May 2017 8:53 pm

PNGMK wrote:jlhytx why are you considering divorce or separation? Maybe try to fix the marriage. Breaking it will cause a of lot pain and hardship.


Staying on will cause more pain to me lol. I don't wish to experience betrayal for the 3rd time. Twice is enough for me.


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