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Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by Barnsley » Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:03 am

The restrictions will cover all electronic devices larger than 6.3ins (16cm) long, 3.6 inches (9.3cm) wide and 0.6 inches (1.5cms) deep. The ban will hit tablets, laptops, handheld games consoles, e-readers such as Kindles and portable DVD players.
Is this a joke??

Haven't the Governments got the balls to ban all electronic devices on planes?

They are making themselves look like idiots.

The best time to check electronic devices is at the bag scan at carry on bag check.

What a laugh.
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Post by x9200 » Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:40 am

Barnsley wrote:
The restrictions will cover all electronic devices larger than 6.3ins (16cm) long, 3.6 inches (9.3cm) wide and 0.6 inches (1.5cms) deep. The ban will hit tablets, laptops, handheld games consoles, e-readers such as Kindles and portable DVD players.
Is this a joke??

Haven't the Governments got the balls to ban all electronic devices on planes?

They are making themselves look like idiots.

The best time to check electronic devices is at the bag scan at carry on bag check.

What a laugh.
I am waiting for some intelligence to figure out possible employment of breast implant bombs or similar.

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Re: Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Mar 2017 1:45 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... 895c753c70

Interesting slant on this new ban. Additionally, some garbage and some actually good comments below the article.

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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 22 Mar 2017 2:12 pm

x9200 wrote: I am waiting for some intelligence to figure out possible employment of breast implant bombs or similar.
mothers have been asked to prove their breast pumps work, and drink breast milk to prove its really milk.

To be fair, don't forget the shoe guy.

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Post by The Ref » Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:44 pm

ecureilx wrote:
x9200 wrote: I am waiting for some intelligence to figure out possible employment of breast implant bombs or similar.
mothers have been asked to prove their breast pumps work, and drink breast milk to prove its really milk.

To be fair, don't forget the shoe guy.
You mean the shoe guy that took such a small amount of explosive it wouldn't have done much damage, and was stopped by other patrons before anything could happen?

There is a proven example of people with checked weapons shooting people at the terminal but they ban kindles.

Realistically getting something onto a plane is not *that* hard. Its getting the conspiracy to stay around and not get caught before some patsy (normally below intelligence) can perform the act and do enough damage to make a difference is far more difficult.

The term is "security theater" they need to be seen to be doing something to make people think things are safe rather than actually doing something about it. Also there is the "if some other idiot took on a shoe bomb why didnt they do something about it" syndrome, even though the treatment is worse than the risk.

To really do something about it the US needs to not pay minimum wage to some uneducated guy in a uniform, but to focus on information gathering and working with marginalized communities.

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Re: Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by x9200 » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 4:09 am

^^+1
Good thing is, most of the time, this uneducated guy is also at the other side. It's sort of similar with committing a perfect crime - few people that have the ability, rarely are motivated to commit one.

But I would not laugh at the shoe soles and such - surely they can do enough damage, but again, it's all about the risk/situation management, rather then prevention of any specific threat.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 4:45 am

The US admits that there is nothing that has changed to cause the ban to be put in place.

What this really is is a petty, vindictive action taken by Trump and his cronies, whom, if they can't get their travel ban in place (and they can't) will try to inflict as much inconvenience as possible on travelers from Muslim countries.

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Post by bgd » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 9:57 am

Strong Eagle wrote:The US admits that there is nothing that has changed to cause the ban to be put in place.

What this really is is a petty, vindictive action taken by Trump and his cronies, whom, if they can't get their travel ban in place (and they can't) will try to inflict as much inconvenience as possible on travelers from Muslim countries.
Why have the UK followed - that 'special relationship'? Anyway I hope that's all it is, I don't want this to spread, I like my laptop on the flight, it spares me from the inflight entertainment.

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Re: Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by Barnsley » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:48 am

bgd wrote:
Why have the UK followed - that 'special relationship'? Anyway I hope that's all it is, I don't want this to spread, I like my laptop on the flight, it spares me from the inflight entertainment.
The UK's proposed ban isnt even from the same countries is it?

I am travelling to UK on Emirates in 3 weeks , doesn't look like Dubai is on the UK black list at the minute.

How will the US/UK enforce airlines to prevent passengers taking such devices on planes?

Will they have folk walking up n down the plane checking?

Also what they gonna do if someone walks off the place with a tablet in UK/US?
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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:24 am

And to add to the questions that Barnsley posited... the USA announced a 96 hour implementation process. How stupid is that?

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Post by Max Headroom » Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:03 pm

I reckon this is one of the weirder and likely more counter-productive bans. With all those wonky batteries in the wild, I'm not so sure that keeping passengers' devices in the cargo hold is necessarily a safer option.

And if this ban includes drones, heads up; last thing you want is unescorted, inaccessible Lipos.

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Re: Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by earthfriendly » Fri, 24 Mar 2017 9:19 am

You do not want to check in your laptop with the luggage. It is too fragile to withstand the rough handling. I tried that once and would never do it again.

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Post by ScoobyDoes » Fri, 24 Mar 2017 5:32 pm

I just flew through Maldives and Colombo last week........both didn't even require taking liquids (large, albeit water only) and laptop out my backpack.

Credit due, Maldives did do a double scan but Colombo not.

Colombo only told me (and my 10yr old) to remove shoes.

Flying through Korea is a complete opposite......almost to the point of stripping off and have a hand shove out of the sunshine. They take their scanning very seriously.

The electronic device that blew a hole in an African airliner recently was due, solely, to errors in scanning hand baggage at the airport and likely poor training or equipment. I believe this has less to do with terrorism and more to do with American airline protection. Why the UK is following suit is the oddest thing in all this, not the fact America and Trump did it.
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Post by Barnsley » Fri, 24 Mar 2017 7:05 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote: Why the UK is following suit is the oddest thing in all this, not the fact America and Trump did it.
Have you seen the countries the UK has called out though.

They just look like they were pulled out of hat. :o
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Re: Ban on Electronic Devices above a certain size!

Post by x9200 » Wed, 29 Mar 2017 7:14 pm

The US and UK ban on laptops in cabin baggage on certain flights will not be an effective security measure, the International Air Transport Association has said.

In a strongly worded speech, IATA chief executive Alexandre de Juniac said the ban also caused commercial distortions.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39425532

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