you flouted the law (knowingly or not), so if you went to court, you'd be found guilty. a fine is a must. jail, when imposed, is exactly because you're a criminal.cdnsing1 wrote:...I fully accept that I will probably have to pay a fine - of which I couldn't agree more - but being jailed for 3 years considering I'm not a criminal seems rather steep.
I'm not 100% where to go from here as I still have to wait for the response from the Central Manpower Base and the Singapore Embassy but I'm a bit frustrated about my situation...
1. Yes - provost marshall will take you in to custody (the brig). You will be court martialled almost immediately I believe. My friend who was caught years ago says it was all over in a few days - except of course he had to serve NS as he was young enough.cdnsing1 wrote:Thanks for the replies.
Does anybody know what the process is like if I do decide to return? I was given a name of a supervisor and to contact him about my travel arrangements. Would I be arrested at the airport if I made arrangements ahead of time? Lastly does anybody know how long this would take from landing in Singapore to actually having this matter resolved?
Thank you again.
Hey,PNGMK wrote:1. Yes - provost marshall will take you in to custody (the brig). You will be court martialled almost immediately I believe. My friend who was caught years ago says it was all over in a few days - except of course he had to serve NS as he was young enough.cdnsing1 wrote:Thanks for the replies.
Does anybody know what the process is like if I do decide to return? I was given a name of a supervisor and to contact him about my travel arrangements. Would I be arrested at the airport if I made arrangements ahead of time? Lastly does anybody know how long this would take from landing in Singapore to actually having this matter resolved?
Thank you again.
2. Based on media report it seems to be fast (if no jail time is involved). However if your'e trying to plan it exactly I don't think that's possible.
I'm in my early 30's, so I doubt I would quality of the cut off age.PNGMK wrote:I can't recall the cut off age for NS. Google should be able to tell you. Brig is a jail cell. I can't recall if you can post bail and get out but I doubt it.
Yes, that is something I was considering as well.sundaymorningstaple wrote:While I'm not an advocate of the following, an alternative, if you are just wishing to visit rellies is to book a hotel in JB across the causeway and have them come over to JB rather than you going into SG and not being able to get back out.
you'll be placed under arrest upon arrival at the airport. some times closer to the plane, other times at passport control.cdnsing1 wrote:1. When you say "the brig" I assume you mean an actual jail cell?
2. Do I stay in this jail cell for duration of this time until I can see a judge?
3. I fully expect things to take a bit of time,but the prospect of sitting in a jail cell is daunting. I'm in my early 30's, so my concern is that I'm technically still "young" enough - I can't give up my life in Canada on the off chance that they do force me to do National Service.
Thanks for the info.taxico wrote:you'll be placed under arrest upon arrival at the airport. some times closer to the plane, other times at passport control.cdnsing1 wrote:1. When you say "the brig" I assume you mean an actual jail cell?
2. Do I stay in this jail cell for duration of this time until I can see a judge?
3. I fully expect things to take a bit of time,but the prospect of sitting in a jail cell is daunting. I'm in my early 30's, so my concern is that I'm technically still "young" enough - I can't give up my life in Canada on the off chance that they do force me to do National Service.
you will be detained in a holding cell at the airport, pending a transfer to jail. in singapore, you do not (necessarily) need to see a judge to get bail.
if you have no one to post bail and act as sureties for you, you will be detained throughout. you will be escorted to the various places you need to go to.
you should expect your passport to be impounded if you are released on bail. you can't wander the streets if you're on bail.
i expect it may take at least a month or two if you do not have to serve NS - some times the courts can get backed up.
the procedure may have changed by now, but for sure you will feel embarrassed at the airport. but the longer you delay a resolution, the longer the sentence will be if you are caught in future...
do military courts allow bail? I thought it was in custody till brought in front of the Judge.taxico wrote: you will be detained in a holding cell at the airport, pending a transfer to jail. in singapore, you do not (necessarily) need to see a judge to get bail.
although a general court martial is presided by a judge, he will not be court martialed as he's not enlisted yet.ecureilx wrote:do military courts allow bail? I thought it was in custody till brought in front of the Judge.taxico wrote: you will be detained in a holding cell at the airport, pending a transfer to jail. in singapore, you do not (necessarily) need to see a judge to get bail.
i don't know what you mean by "it's not clear that i'm a CA citizen as well..."cdnsing1 wrote:If anything I'll be returning on a Canadian passport as I'm not 100% sure where my Singapore passport is and it is probably long expired as well. I forgot to mention, if it's not clear that I'm a Canadian citizen as well if that matters.
If I do return, it'll probably be with a family member - so I think getting bail (if it's possible) shouldn't be an issue.
Your information seems to be good, do you have experience with situations like mine?
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