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Renew COE or buy new car

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby skipper » Wed, 12 Jul 2017 6:43 pm

I'm the OP and a bit "ashamed" to say that even after doing the sums, we did otherwise and bought a new car (new model). But I guess the system will stay like this -- the govt can't afford to do away with this revenue stream.
http://www.asiaone.com/singapore/s92b-come-car-taxes-and-coe-premiums-fy2017

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24 pm

skipper wrote:I'm the OP and a bit "ashamed" to say that even after doing the sums, we did otherwise and bought a new car (new model). But I guess the system will stay like this -- the govt can't afford to do away with this revenue stream.
http://www.asiaone.com/singapore/s92b-come-car-taxes-and-coe-premiums-fy2017


It's not an easy decision - sometimes a lot easier to take a loan and get a nice new car rather than cough up a huge amount of cash for a new COE. I have no regrets about renewing my COE but I have a clear deadline on when I want to leave and I would have still had negative equity on a car loan (it's at least a few years now to get on top of that if you only pay 30% down).
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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby JustSee » Thu, 13 Jul 2017 2:07 pm

I did the calculations lots of time in my mind, there is no justification of buying a new car (Unless you really want to) compared to renewing a COE.
New cars breakdown as well, and you might be switching to a car where parts are a lot more expensive than the one you have now, or even a less reliable car than the one you have. Add on top of that the fact that new cars lose most of their value in the first 4 years - you're better off buying a 2nd hand or keeping yours, the PARF is a nice addition towards the new car when you scrap your old one, but it is just rolled into the new car.

That's at least my 2 cents...

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby x9200 » Sun, 30 Jul 2017 7:05 pm

What is going to happen to the PARF rebate if one would like to extend the COE for 5y only?

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby JustSee » Sun, 30 Jul 2017 7:21 pm

x9200 wrote:What is going to happen to the PARF rebate if one would like to extend the COE for 5y only?


You lose it.
No matter how long you decided to keep the car, even if you deregister it 1 year into the 5 years of the renewal, you will get the pro rated COE but lose the PARF.

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby PNGMK » Mon, 31 Jul 2017 7:12 am

JustSee wrote:
x9200 wrote:What is going to happen to the PARF rebate if one would like to extend the COE for 5y only?


You lose it.
No matter how long you decided to keep the car, even if you deregister it 1 year into the 5 years of the renewal, you will get the pro rated COE but lose the PARF.

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Which personally I think is BS.
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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby x9200 » Mon, 31 Jul 2017 11:40 am

We have a 10yo Honda Airways and the idea was to use the PARF rebate against the 5y COE, but if this is not possible, we will have to deregister it, cash the rebate and use it as a down payment for a 2-4yo car. Pity, the Honda is in a good shape and could be still used smoothly for 5 more years and if something major happens (I expect shortage of spare parts for this model very soon), just deregistered at some point claiming unused COE. Clearly, this system is not about effective management of existing resources of this specific type.

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby PNGMK » Mon, 31 Jul 2017 1:05 pm

x9200 wrote:We have a 10yo Honda Airways and the idea was to use the PARF rebate against the 5y COE, but if this is not possible, we will have to deregister it, cash the rebate and use it as a down payment for a 2-4yo car. Pity, the Honda is in a good shape and could be still used smoothly for 5 more years and if something major happens (I expect shortage of spare parts for this model very soon), just deregistered at some point claiming unused COE. Clearly, this system is not about effective management of existing resources of this specific type.


No it's not possible to do that. However the Cat A COE continues to drop and it is in my opinion not a bad idea to renew for 5 years if you only plan to be around for afew more years.
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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby JennPope » Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:18 pm

taxico wrote:
skipper wrote:...

Replacement C180 now at $185K...


if you are happy to go japanese...

a brand new corolla from borneo motors with a 5-year warranty is 99k with quite a few grand change...

selling it is easy as well because most singaporean buyers like that car.


:D :D :D I also have corolla :d it is true that singaporean like it :d but thats because it is a good car I suppose

So... you are posting from the same Romainian IP address as "Sia White". What's with that?

Are you driving your Corolla in Singapore or Bucharest?

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby tiktok » Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:41 pm

PNGMK wrote:
BeJa222 wrote:You know this is why Expats hate Singaporeans?


Um, do expats hate Singaporeans? Or do you?

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby Todtiny » Sun, 24 Feb 2019 9:00 pm

I was tormented for a long time with my old car. I had to repair it again and again. It took a lot of time and effort. I repaired it myself, and I also have to repair it for specialists. It took me a lot of money with all these things. At some point, I got sick of it. I braced myself and sold my car. I've been without a car for two months. I'm used to this, but now I am looking for a new good car.

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Re: Renew COE or buy new car

Postby Todtiny » Sun, 24 Feb 2019 9:01 pm

On the basis of environmental friendliness, perhaps a good decision would be to buy an electric vehicle.


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