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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by PNGMK » Wed, 04 Jan 2017 7:21 am

THIS is why I refused to let HR handle my lease in the years before. They only want the kick backs - not the hard stuff to handle.
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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by x9200 » Wed, 04 Jan 2017 8:22 am

Yep, it is a risky arrangement mainly for the reason, that if the things go wrong, you may end up in suing your own company - very bad if still employed, still not so good even if you quit, slightly better if your all salaries were already paid.

For a company any legal action is always a cost not practical to be recovered. That's why they will try to push the responsibility to the easier prey, their employees.

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by Arwi » Wed, 04 Jan 2017 8:38 pm

I have not pay them anything yet. They just send me quotation for the repair/replace. Cost 19800 sgd. LL doesnot want to negotiate. But threat to sue me. Should wait until they sue or go to file SCT now.
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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 04 Jan 2017 10:31 pm

Arwi wrote:I have not pay them anything yet. They just send me quotation for the repair/replace. Cost 19800 sgd. LL doesnot want to negotiate. But threat to sue me. Should wait until they sue or go to file SCT now.
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19800 SGD for what ? Really ?

Tell them to go ahead.

I know landlords who tried to get tenants to pay for renovating the whole unit

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 6:15 am

Arwi wrote:I have not pay them anything yet. They just send me quotation for the repair/replace. Cost 19800 sgd. LL doesnot want to negotiate. But threat to sue me. Should wait until they sue or go to file SCT now.
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Counter sue for the return of your deposit. None of this claim will stand up in the SCT. At worse case you might have to agree on a much lower amount. This is bull.
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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by Arwi » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 8:37 am

I can give few examples
1. Small scratchs and stains on the wall. They ask for new paint in hall way, living area and master bedroom.
2. Small stains on 4-5 tiles. Change all the tiles in hall way, living room, kitchen, one bed room.
3. A 1-2 inches stain on the basin. Change the whole counter with new set including plumming work.

In all, almost 20K.

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 10:04 am

Arwi wrote:I can give few examples
1. Small scratchs and stains on the wall. They ask for new paint in hall way, living area and master bedroom.
2. Small stains on 4-5 tiles. Change all the tiles in hall way, living room, kitchen, one bed room.
3. A 1-2 inches stain on the basin. Change the whole counter with new set including plumming work.

In all, almost 20K.
All of that is 'fair wear and tear'. Does the contract allow for that? An SCT will throw this out. You need (as told you many times before) write a letter in response stating:

1. The damages are normal wear and tear.
2. The claims are excessive.
3. You intend to counter sue for return of the deposit on your employer's behalf in the SCT.

Get to bloody work and stop whining on this forum!
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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 10:05 am

Arwi wrote:I can give few examples
1. Small scratchs and stains on the wall. They ask for new paint in hall way, living area and master bedroom.
2. Small stains on 4-5 tiles. Change all the tiles in hall way, living room, kitchen, one bed room.
3. A 1-2 inches stain on the basin. Change the whole counter with new set including plumming work.

In all, almost 20K.
All of that is 'fair wear and tear'. Does the contract allow for that? An SCT will throw this out. You need (as told you many times before) write a letter in response stating:

1. The damages are normal wear and tear.
2. The claims are excessive.
3. You intend to counter sue for return of the deposit on your employer's behalf in the SCT.

Get to bloody work and stop whining on this forum!
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
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Post by brian_singapore » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 12:55 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Arwi wrote:I have not pay them anything yet. They just send me quotation for the repair/replace. Cost 19800 sgd. LL doesnot want to negotiate. But threat to sue me. Should wait until they sue or go to file SCT now.
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19800 SGD for what ? Really ?

Tell them to go ahead.

I know landlords who tried to get tenants to pay for renovating the whole unit
For what? Because it's 200 dollars below the SCT cut-off. I'm sure if the SCT cut-off was 25,000 the quote would have come to a magical 24,800 .... :o

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 1:23 pm

This! ^^^^
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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 1:25 pm

brian_singapore wrote: For what? Because it's 200 dollars below the SCT cut-off. I'm sure if the SCT cut-off was 25,000 the quote would have come to a magical 24,800 .... :o
ah. Like the magical 275$ quote for air con repair, when the contract says costs below 300 are borne by tenant ... makes sense.

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Post by brian_singapore » Thu, 05 Jan 2017 1:31 pm

ecureilx wrote:
brian_singapore wrote: For what? Because it's 200 dollars below the SCT cut-off. I'm sure if the SCT cut-off was 25,000 the quote would have come to a magical 24,800 .... :o
ah. Like the magical 275$ quote for air con repair, when the contract says costs below 300 are borne by tenant ... makes sense.
My magic number is 125 - my lease says the cap is $150.

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by Arwi » Fri, 06 Jan 2017 8:29 am

Thank you for all helpful comments. I will compile them and decide the next step. Will update you once finalised.

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Re: Over claim of dammage by landloard

Post by PNGMK » Fri, 06 Jan 2017 11:42 am

Arwi wrote:Thank you for all helpful comments. I will compile them and decide the next step. Will update you once finalised.
I bet you won't. You'll whine and grizzle and somehow justify it internally and help perpetuate this bullshit system by either paying or settling with your company to pay half.
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