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Ex-PR with a family of Citizens! HELP

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Ex-PR with a family of Citizens! HELP

Post by williamsonchew » Sat, 24 Dec 2016 2:03 pm

Hello all,

So my case is a little complicated.

I'm actually 20 years old (soon to be 21). I actually gave up my PR at the age of 18 as I was scared to serve NS. But by then, my entire family (Mom, Dad and Sister) had become Citizens of Singapore. I'm the only non-citizen in my family.

Now I'm feeling terrible and I've realized that I want to come back and serve - so my parents have helped me file an application as sponsors. When my parents had emailed ICA/MOM asking them if I could apply, the representatives specially cleared PR appointments for me so I could apply.

Do you guys think this is worth it? Or Is this just a polite gesture and am I actually being set up for rejection. Any thoughts and opinions?

Wanted to end off by saying I think Singapore is a wonderful country and wish everyone all the best!

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Re: Ex-PR with a family of Citizens! HELP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 24 Dec 2016 2:52 pm

I doubt very seriously that it's going to happen unless you serve NS first. Even then, there is no guarantee that you will get PR or citizenship afterwards. You might be able to get an Employment Pass if you otherwise qualify. But Please. Do not hold your breath waiting for success.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Ex-PR with a family of Citizens! HELP

Post by williamsonchew » Sat, 24 Dec 2016 3:04 pm

Hi Sundaymorningstaple,

Thanks for your response. I think the point of this PR application was that if they do give me an in principle approval, I would have to go serve NS. I'm pretty sure after me successfully completing my NS, they would be willing to consider me for renewal of PR or Citizenship.

Another representative had previously told my family that I could potentially apply for a Singaporean job a couple of years from now and my parents might be able to petition for me to return to the country. Do you know if this is true?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 24 Dec 2016 5:47 pm

Possibly, if you get back and into NS before reaching the age of majority although this would probably be a first or very rare. Let me relate something as see how it sits.

My boss, a Singaporean business owner and card carrying PAP member is married to a European and they have two children who were born overseas and hold foreign citizenship and were born overseas. Both went to school here (at International Schools). Neither have taken up Citizenship but the eldest one (the girl) was and still is a PR as she is still single and living at home. Both of them went overseas for their University Educations but did all their basic schooling in Singapore up through O levels, her as a PR and him on a Student Visa. When he wanted to return to Singapore we tried to get him a position in the Father's company so applied for the relevant EP and was rejected. (On two separate occasions) Both times with a paragraph that read basically like "you have unresolved issues with the CMPB which must be addressed before you can be considered for an EP. (He holds a MS in a hard engineering discipline from a UK university. He's about 25 now and still unable to obtain anything more than a standard SVP here. Why? Because they know what his Singaporean father did to avoid NS for the son and they have a long, long, unforgiving memory, looking for ways to prove a point. I told the father what was going to happen 8 years ago (I've been with the company for 11+ years, but he's like a lot of local businessmen who think they know everything. I can only say today "I told you so". What to do?

So, all I can say is Good Luck, as I feel you are going to need a healthy dose of it before this is over.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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