PR Chance for a Javanese (Malay) Catholic

[lavender99]

Hi all,
Me and my husband are planning to apply for PR next year.
I work in Singapore and plan to get PR, as we have a vision of staying permanently in Singapore and also I hope my husband can have a higher chance in getting a job here.
We're Indonesian, so Singapore is good place to live and yet still close to our home country.

Our details:
Me
Age : 26
Sex : F
Marital Status : Married for 1 year
Kids : Not yet (but we're really trying to get some )
Nationality : Indonesian
Ethnicity: Javanese (might be considered as Malay if people are not familiar with Javanese)
Religion : Roman Catholic
Job: Marketing Brand Assistant Manager (pretty stable, no layoff in the office so far)
Company : One of the top FMCG company in the world
Salary: $6100/mo with annual bonus of $10k SGD
Annual Income: $84,200
Pass : EP
Highest Qualification attained : Bachelor of Economics, Management (from one of the largest & top university in Indonesia)
Period of staying in SG: 2 years, but only have 1 NOA so far, will get the 2nd NOA in 2017
Voluntary activity in Singapore : No

Hubby
Age: 26
Sex : M
Nationality, religion, race: Same with me
Job: Used to work as an engineer for a large oil multi-national company in Australia, but resigned at the end of 2015, and has since been running a venture (but not employed with any company).
Been trying to get a job in Singapore in the last 2.5 years, but no good...
Highest Qualification : Bachelor of engineering also from the same university with me in Indonesia
Pass: DP

Could you guys give me some advice and suggestion regarding our plan?
Like whether it's a good idea to apply for PR if the motivation is to get a job, and also will we have a good chance considering our race, religion, employment and background.
We understand that we might not have a good chance, as we're not Chinese and have only been living in Singapore for 2 years.
And we don't really do any voluntary activity in Singapore which can give us a recommendation letter...
The only strength that we can think is my job & company, our religion, and I'm married and might getting pregnant soon.
Do you think we should apply next year or wait for another 2-3 years? (until we can get at least 3 NOAs)

Thanks a lot, sorry for the long post

[dynoto]

your religion doesn't matter actually ... though your race, is.

you can apply next year and take your chances, and then apply again 2-3 years later ... no harm of doing so

[jamie9vardy]

Hi all,
Me and my husband are planning to apply for PR next year.
I work in Singapore and plan to get PR, as we have a vision of staying permanently in Singapore and also I hope my husband can have a higher chance in getting a job here.
We're Indonesian, so Singapore is good place to live and yet still close to our home country.

Our details:
Me
Age : 26
Sex : F
Marital Status : Married for 1 year
Kids : Not yet (but we're really trying to get some )
Nationality : Indonesian
Ethnicity: Javanese (might be considered as Malay if people are not familiar with Javanese)
Religion : Roman Catholic
Job: Marketing Brand Assistant Manager (pretty stable, no layoff in the office so far)
Company : One of the top FMCG company in the world
Salary: $6100/mo with annual bonus of $10k SGD
Annual Income: $84,200
Pass : EP
Highest Qualification attained : Bachelor of Economics, Management (from one of the largest & top university in Indonesia)
Period of staying in SG: 2 years, but only have 1 NOA so far, will get the 2nd NOA in 2017
Voluntary activity in Singapore : No

Hubby
Age: 26
Sex : M
Nationality, religion, race: Same with me
Job: Used to work as an engineer for a large oil multi-national company in Australia, but resigned at the end of 2015, and has since been running a venture (but not employed with any company).
Been trying to get a job in Singapore in the last 2.5 years, but no good...
Highest Qualification : Bachelor of engineering also from the same university with me in Indonesia
Pass: DP

Could you guys give me some advice and suggestion regarding our plan?
Like whether it's a good idea to apply for PR if the motivation is to get a job, and also will we have a good chance considering our race, religion, employment and background.
We understand that we might not have a good chance, as we're not Chinese and have only been living in Singapore for 2 years.
And we don't really do any voluntary activity in Singapore which can give us a recommendation letter...
The only strength that we can think is my job & company, our religion, and I'm married and might getting pregnant soon.
Do you think we should apply next year or wait for another 2-3 years? (until we can get at least 3 NOAs)

Thanks a lot, sorry for the long post

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/viewtopic.php?t=114455

I reckon Coblos is your husband?

Race aside and in addition to 3 NOAs, I think it is more important for him to secure a job first before you put in the application.

[lavender99]

Hi all,
Me and my husband are planning to apply for PR next year.
I work in Singapore and plan to get PR, as we have a vision of staying permanently in Singapore and also I hope my husband can have a higher chance in getting a job here.
We're Indonesian, so Singapore is good place to live and yet still close to our home country.

Our details:
Me
Age : 26
Sex : F
Marital Status : Married for 1 year
Kids : Not yet (but we're really trying to get some )
Nationality : Indonesian
Ethnicity: Javanese (might be considered as Malay if people are not familiar with Javanese)
Religion : Roman Catholic
Job: Marketing Brand Assistant Manager (pretty stable, no layoff in the office so far)
Company : One of the top FMCG company in the world
Salary: $6100/mo with annual bonus of $10k SGD
Annual Income: $84,200
Pass : EP
Highest Qualification attained : Bachelor of Economics, Management (from one of the largest & top university in Indonesia)
Period of staying in SG: 2 years, but only have 1 NOA so far, will get the 2nd NOA in 2017
Voluntary activity in Singapore : No

Hubby
Age: 26
Sex : M
Nationality, religion, race: Same with me
Job: Used to work as an engineer for a large oil multi-national company in Australia, but resigned at the end of 2015, and has since been running a venture (but not employed with any company).
Been trying to get a job in Singapore in the last 2.5 years, but no good...
Highest Qualification : Bachelor of engineering also from the same university with me in Indonesia
Pass: DP

Could you guys give me some advice and suggestion regarding our plan?
Like whether it's a good idea to apply for PR if the motivation is to get a job, and also will we have a good chance considering our race, religion, employment and background.
We understand that we might not have a good chance, as we're not Chinese and have only been living in Singapore for 2 years.
And we don't really do any voluntary activity in Singapore which can give us a recommendation letter...
The only strength that we can think is my job & company, our religion, and I'm married and might getting pregnant soon.
Do you think we should apply next year or wait for another 2-3 years? (until we can get at least 3 NOAs)

Thanks a lot, sorry for the long post

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/viewtopic.php?t=114455

I reckon Coblos is your husband?

Race aside and in addition to 3 NOAs, I think it is more important for him to secure a job first before you put in the application.

Oopss, he already posted here?
Yes, he's been trying so haaard to get a job, but it's been very very hard so far....
I think only some call center operator jobs which were offered to him..
Well, I don't think it's a good job for a person which has a professional experience.
I don't think that kind of job will give him better chance for PR, am I right?
Or should he try accepting that kind of job?

[jamie9vardy]

As much as I would say don't jump into accepting whatever jobs that come along which do not value add to his CV, there will come a point where you guys need to decide if single income is sustainable and his widening gap in between employments is going to be an issue.

Also, it could be a cultural thing/expectation in this part of the world that the guy in the family should be working.

You mentioned in your other post that both of you got married only in May'16. This short period may also work against your PR chances if you apply to early.

[lavender99]

As much as I would say don't jump into accepting whatever jobs that come along which do not value add to his CV, there will come a point that you guys needs to decide if single income is sustainable and his widening gap in between employments is going to be an issue.

Also, it could be a cultural thing/expectation that the guy in the family should be working.

You mentioned in your other post that both of you got married only in May'16. This short period may also work against your PR chances if you apply to early.

Thanks jamie.
Yes, so far we have no issue with single income, but we still have that cultural thing that "husband must work".
We're also afraid that the unemployment period won't be good for his future career.
We imagined the worst case is he won't be able to land any job anymore if he's still unemployed until the next year or so.
Tough times for oil worker.

Probably he has to consider of getting master degree, but we're afraid it won't give him any job either.
He' doesn't want to spend money & effort in master degree if there's no the motivation to pursue greater knowledge.
What if he got a master in petroleum engineering (the subject which he's interested) but still failed to secure a job.

So much fear, well I guess we need a break in thinking about this.
Maybe a change in his life vision from being an employee to focus on his venture will bring a more enjoyable life..