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First PR application rejected...what are your thoughts?

Postby Absquatulate9899 » Sat, 05 Nov 2016 7:00 pm

Greetings, for some background information, my family applied earlier this year which includes me, my son (18) and my daughter (16) with me being main applicant. Our application was rejected as it was pending for 3 months, I was devastated as we wanted to make Singapore our home and my family had plans of settling down here. My kids had attended a local secondary school, so far my son had finished his O levels and is now studying in a local polytechnic. I’m sure my daughter would follow through. I’ve also have local friends and am active within the community.

Age: 44
Gender: Female
Nationality: Filipino
Status: Separated (Undergoing a divorce)
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering and relevant course training certificates
Industry: Oil and Gas
Position: Global Helium Logistics Manager at an MNC (Has higher local to foreigner ratio)
Salary: $160,000 - $170,000 per annum
NOA: 5 Times
Years in Singapore: 3 (Since July 2013)
Application date: July 29, 2016
Rejection date: November 3, 2016

Apart from being required to submit more documents and the fact that I’m undergoing a divorce which I submitted relevant documents to the ICA officer, I don’t know what else could have caused our application to be rejected. We would consider applying again but how long must we wait until our next appointment? And thus any feedback would be welcomed.

Update:
We just received our rejection letter, I did state the usual rejection however nothing of the sort "You may apply again after x months"
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Re: RE: First PR application rejected...what are your thoughts?

Postby ecureilx » Sat, 05 Nov 2016 7:59 pm

Absquatulate9899 wrote:Greetings, for some background information, my family applied earlier this year which includes me, my son (18) and my daughter (16) with me being main applicant. Our application was rejected as it was pending for 3 months, I was devastated as we wanted to make Singapore our home and my family had plans of settling down here. My kids had attended a local secondary school, so far my son had finished his O levels and is now studying in a local polytechnic. I’m sure my daughter would follow through. I’ve also have local friends and am active within the community.

Age: 44
Gender: Female
Nationality: Filipino
Status: Separated (Undergoing a divorce)
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering and relevant course training certificates
Industry: Oil and Gas
Position: Global Helium Logistics Manager at an MNC (Has higher local to foreigner ratio)
Salary: $160,000 - $170,000 per annum
NOA: 5 Times
Years in Singapore: 3 (Since July 2013)
Application date: July 29, 2016
Rejection date: November 3, 2016

Apart from being required to submit more documents and the fact that I’m undergoing a divorce which I submitted relevant documents to the ICA officer, I don’t know what else could have caused our application to be rejected. We would consider applying again but how long must we wait until our next appointment? And thus any feedback would be welcomed.

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Re: First PR application rejected...what are your thoughts?

Postby hkphooey » Sun, 06 Nov 2016 3:19 pm

NOA, you mean notice of assessment from IRAS?

How can you get 5, when you're here for just 3 years (2013)?

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Postby ecureilx » Sun, 06 Nov 2016 7:51 pm

Absquatulate9899 wrote:Age: 44
Gender: Female
Nationality: Filipino


In the grand scheme of things, your demographic works against you.

Though, don't despair.

Give a try in a year's time.

But hope for a miracle

Was your spouse a kababayan?

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Postby Absquatulate9899 » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 7:30 am

hkphooey wrote:NOA, you mean notice of assessment from IRAS?

How can you get 5, when you're here for just 3 years (2013)?



Well there were four when I gave my documents, now counting to 5 just recently.

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Postby Absquatulate9899 » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 7:31 am

ecureilx wrote:
Absquatulate9899 wrote:Age: 44
Gender: Female
Nationality: Filipino


In the grand scheme of things, your demographic works against you.

Though, don't despair.

Give a try in a year's time.

But hope for a miracle

Was your spouse a kababayan?


Hahahaha yes, he was a Filipino.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 9:49 am

Absquatulate9899 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
Absquatulate9899 wrote:Age: 44
Gender: Female
Nationality: Filipino


In the grand scheme of things, your demographic works against you.

Though, don't despair.

Give a try in a year's time.

But hope for a miracle

Was your spouse a kababayan?


Hahahaha yes, he was a Filipino.


I bet you didn't donate blood ... :D :D as many aspirants do ....

That too didn't help ;)

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Postby Absquatulate9899 » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:55 am

ecureilx wrote:
Absquatulate9899 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
In the grand scheme of things, your demographic works against you.

Though, don't despair.

Give a try in a year's time.

But hope for a miracle

Was your spouse a kababayan?


Hahahaha yes, he was a Filipino.


I bet you didn't donate blood ... :D :D as many aspirants do ....

That too didn't help ;)


So donating blood is a bonus point?
I thought its something those who go great lengths hoping their application gets accepted? To the ICA officer, its something that wouldn't suffice to show their commitment to Singapore.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 11:56 am

Absquatulate9899 wrote:So donating blood is a bonus point?
I thought its something those who go great lengths hoping their application gets accepted? To the ICA officer, its something that wouldn't suffice to show their commitment to Singapore.


If I am to believe the few wanna be applicants .... blood donation supposedly helps. There's a few posts in that vein here ..

Good luck in any case on your next application..

Don't despair ....

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Re: First PR application rejected...what are your thoughts?

Postby Absquatulate9899 » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:02 pm

Thank you, also applying for the second time is reccomended usually after how nany months?

It is stated that applicants are free to reapply again 6 months from the date of rejection. And on the forums its suggested to apply 1 year later.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:06 pm

Absquatulate9899 wrote:Thank you, also applying for the second time is reccomended usually after how nany months?

It is stated that applicants are free to reapply again 6 months from the date of rejection. And on the forums its suggested to apply 1 year later.

If there's some major change, like new baby ( :D ) or pay hike etc, you can apply in 6 months. After all, the earliest appointment maybe 6 months away.

Or wait a year and give a try.

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Postby brian_singapore » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 3:31 pm

Just another anedcote on how hard it's getting if your not in the right bucket ...

I was talking to one of our MDs (Managing Director) and a D (Director) here. The MD is working on his third application and the D is trying to decide how much longer to wait before making his second application. Both have been in SG for > 5 years and while I don't know exactly how much they make, they should both be very well compensated.

I don't know much about their particulars other then they both have grown children, both submitted a family application and both are of Indian descent.

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Postby PNGMK » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 3:54 pm

brian_singapore wrote:Just another anedcote on how hard it's getting if your not in the right bucket ...

I was talking to one of our MDs (Managing Director) and a D (Director) here. The MD is working on his third application and the D is trying to decide how much longer to wait before making his second application. Both have been in SG for > 5 years and while I don't know exactly how much they make, they should both be very well compensated.

I don't know much about their particulars other then they both have grown children, both submitted a family application and both are of Indian descent.


If they have grown children they are out of luck most likely. The latest demographics document makes it pretty clear that the PR applicants should be in the 'child bearing/rearing' age range (25 to 49 with dependent families if married and over the age of child bearing). PR is not a reward fo being a high earner who didn't contribute children to the cause; it's an immigration tool for demographic control.
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Re: First PR application rejected...what are your thoughts?

Postby hkphooey » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 5:07 pm

Absquatulate9899 wrote:
hkphooey wrote:NOA, you mean notice of assessment from IRAS?

How can you get 5, when you're here for just 3 years (2013)?



Well there were four when I gave my documents, now counting to 5 just recently.


NOA per year, so you should get 2013 on 2014, and 2014 on 2015. You shouldn't get a 2016 as you should get this around April or May 2017.

Counting, you should have only 2 years NOA.

Since you got rejected so quickly, my guess is you also lack 3-year NOA, in addition of being non-X race.

I would suggest you try again after getting you NOA for 2016.

Good luck sa iyo!

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:07 pm

brian_singapore wrote:Just another anedcote on how hard it's getting if your not in the right bucket ...

I was talking to one of our MDs (Managing Director) and a D (Director) here. The MD is working on his third application and the D is trying to decide how much longer to wait before making his second application. .


I know Filipino MDs, the medical type, who have been given long term pass but no go for PR.


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