Suggesting the IT shops as scammers is not right.Elington wrote:
I visit the place as and when I need items or family members need my help with certain things. Do feel free to ask if you have any questions! I will try to answer to the best of my abilities.
That's the MO of the scamming mobile phone shops ...
- Signed something seemingly harmless/paid before you checked the goods, there are many unscrupulous merchants that prey on the unknowing victims
Oh.no.They do sell 2nd hand goods too.
Not nice.2. Remember 4W1H, WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN HOW:
If you bought something, REMEMBER, WHO dealt with you, WHAT did they say, WHERE did they go off to when taking your money or items, WHEN did they return and in what state did they bring it out to you, HOW did they show you your item. After you paid, they can pretend that they have never met you. Inspect the box and items. Seal wraps can be faked. Brand tapes can be bought. E.g. Lenovo Taped box, they tear it open in front of you, but really the contents are not exactly new.
Not nice.3. Tourist Trap - 1st and 2nd Level, but still applies to all levels as long as you are not familiar:
Most of the time the first 2 Level are full of pretty lady, polite gentleman.
Most computer accessories are under control price SRP.Ask for your discount, mention that it's a friend's budget, they only have this much. Ask them to round down the figure to the next 5 or 0.
Depending on the purchase amount it's possible to shave off savings of $50-100
While the situation may have improved sometimes. I'd just pretend that it's just a jungle and be vigilant at all times than to be sorry in the end. I don't exactly view them as fewer, the numbers seems to fluctuate at times. Generally having seen and interacted with the booth salespersons, I do not engage in transactions much with them.That's the MO of the scamming mobile phone shops ...
- Signed something seemingly harmless/paid before you checked the goods, there are many unscrupulous merchants that prey on the unknowing victims
You may change it to 'fewer and fewer ...' instead of many ...
Items sold in VR-Zone or Hardware Zone kind of forums that are previously owned should be specified as per their status. Do not engage ambiguous sellers on the forums as well. There are plenty of reputable and pleasant sellers too.Oh.no.They do sell 2nd hand goods too.
It sounds like you have been in either positionsNot nice.2. Remember 4W1H, WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN HOW:
If you bought something, REMEMBER, WHO dealt with you, WHAT did they say, WHERE did they go off to when taking your money or items, WHEN did they return and in what state did they bring it out to you, HOW did they show you your item. After you paid, they can pretend that they have never met you. Inspect the box and items. Seal wraps can be faked. Brand tapes can be bought. E.g. Lenovo Taped box, they tear it open in front of you, but really the contents are not exactly new.
I know lot of customers insist on opening the box before purchase - and they have no intention to purchase - and leave an open unit. Who absorbs the cost ? Just asking - about such scenarios ...
Yes prices can be published. There are items that you can push for a discount, if you bought them together. You don't shave of $50-100 on a $100 Router, it's just not possible. Basis of bargaining is just about reducing the 'commission' and bring the 'retail price' closer to the 'cost price'. While personally I do not know what are the cost prices of each items. As a bundle of goods, it's more a distributed reduction of 'commission', some consumers perceive it as getting discount on one item that they asked for. Most likely in the case they play the discount by the following example:Most computer accessories are under control price SRP.Ask for your discount, mention that it's a friend's budget, they only have this much. Ask them to round down the figure to the next 5 or 0.
Depending on the purchase amount it's possible to shave off savings of $50-100
Asus, TP link and all even publish their price. So how does bargain and discount work ?
How do you shave off 50-100 $ on a 100$ router ?
Just asking. ..
Yes, I second that opinion. I buy (or TBP, used to buy) tons of PC components/accessories from SLS and hardly recall many issues in 15y. But then, it's sort of a specific thing.ecureilx wrote:Suggesting the IT shops as scammers is not right.Elington wrote:
I visit the place as and when I need items or family members need my help with certain things. Do feel free to ask if you have any questions! I will try to answer to the best of my abilities.
There are shops there doing computer accessories for more that 20 years, and they don't scam. How do they survive if they been scamming as you insinuate ?
The mobile phone and such stuff ran riot but not the IT shops.
Can you guide me which shops still resort to this commission based salary and hence adding price and pretend discounting ?Elington wrote: Yes prices can be published. There are items that you can push for a discount, if you bought them together. You don't shave of $50-100 on a $100 Router, it's just not possible. Basis of bargaining is just about reducing the 'commission' and bring the 'retail price' closer to the 'cost price'. While personally I do not know what are the cost prices of each items. As a bundle of goods, it's more a distributed reduction of 'commission', some consumers perceive it as getting discount on one item that they asked for. Most likely in the case they play the discount by the following example:
1. You bought items A, B, C and D. You feel that C is a little expensive.
2. You ask for a discount for C since you bought so many.
3. Hesitantly, after a few rounds of exchange, finally the sales person gives in and gives you discount on the said item. "One time only" "Just for you".
4. You feel good about it. Well basically they just reduced the excess off the bundle even if C is non-discountable.
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The funny thing is, with few having an axe to grind against SLS, the enterprising scammers have moved to city hall, Lucky plaza and Toa Payoh and such Heart lands and doing roaring business having diversified into laptops, Tablets and such. And the trusting public are paying through their nose - and have no clue as it's not Sim Lim Square ....sundaymorningstaple wrote:For somebody with No comments, you sure are commenting a lot.
My two words for both SLS & SLT are much the same. Caveat Emptor
Ecu, why he sent him over to Samsung? What SN has to do with it? It can be an older, but a brand new item. Most, if not all branded SSDs have the s.m.a.r.t capability, if it was a demo, the POH (Power_On_Hours) record would be high. I also don't think anybody records the SN of the disks sold, so it would always be possible to claim, this was not the disk sold by the shop.ecureilx wrote:No wonder, I know a few IT shops just refused customers who insinuated the stuff are old/recycled/demo units.
Just last week i had the privilege of hearing a customer insist a shop demo a new SSD drive since he'd been told there are scammers.
The frustrated shop guy printed out the Samsung contact center number and told the customer to verify if the serial number is valid and if not call the cops for sale of fake stuff. And no, the shop doesn't want that customer business.
There was no threat but that's the outcome of questioning a 15 year business' integrity.
Lucky Plaza was always in my experience much worse than SLS. I was also attempted to be scammed a few time in Funan, the place with generally good opinion - interestingly, one time in a small shop being a sister shop of one of the 2 shops in SLS I considered reputable (I am talking about camera shops).ecureilx wrote:The funny thing is, with few having an axe to grind against SLS, the enterprising scammers have moved to city hall, Lucky plaza and Toa Payoh and such Heart lands and doing roaring business having diversified into laptops, Tablets and such. And the trusting public are paying through their nose - and have no clue as it's not Sim Lim Square ....sundaymorningstaple wrote:For somebody with No comments, you sure are commenting a lot.
My two words for both SLS & SLT are much the same. Caveat Emptor
Yeah, it should have been "no further comments ... "
SSDs warranty activation requires submitting the serial #, from what I know. As is for few items that provide limited data recovery service like Samsung SSD.x9200 wrote: Ecu, why he sent him over to Samsung? What SN has to do with it? It can be an older, but a brand new item. Most, if not all branded SSDs have the s.m.a.r.t capability, if it was a demo, the POH (Power_On_Hours) record would be high. I also don't think anybody records the SN of the disks sold, so it would always be possible to claim, this was not the disk sold by the shop.
This customer thought it's a fake item, branded as Samsung !!x9200 wrote: BTW, why this customer thought it was a demo?
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